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Hah, my biggest base yet is totally broken. I don't know if it is because my PS4 can only load approximately half of my environment most of the time, but the animals and blizzards plaguing this planet can't seem to remember that I'm inside a large building made up of cubes, not outside. Sometimes the temperature wildly jumps between +19 and -100 °C just by me moving the camera up or down. It's like my PS4 forgets there's supposed to be a ceiling if I don't look up enough! 
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Thundarr posted:Huh, so the heating unit blueprint that you can get from derelicts actually keep you warm on ice planets. That's kind of neat. Whoa for reals? That is handy. I should make a Hoth base now.
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Oct 29, 2020 01:16
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Speedball posted:Whoa for reals? That is handy. I should make a Hoth base now. The range is the same as it is on derelicts, so pretty short. But it's still thematic for an ice base. A shame you can't paint the derelict stuff.
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Oct 29, 2020 02:06
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Thundarr posted:Holy poo poo I never would have guessed in a million years that it was TLS. Mostly because I'd assume if it was a networking issue that the game wouldn't work at all, rather than mostly working except for a couple weirdly specific things which still kinda sorta work. I mean if there was at least a FAQ or something that noticed oh hey your on win7 you might wanna do this thing! It's a pretty big loving point and i know a lot of people still on win7 while they wait for new tech to buy another computer. I was on windows 98 forever and only got on XP a few years before 7. I got windows ME and vista for free and had to reinstall back to 98 each time haha ain't touching a new windows OS for at least half a decade now.
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Oct 29, 2020 02:08
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I can understand being upgrade shy after having put up with ME and Vista  . Win10 is actually solid, but unfortunately I don't think you can get the free upgrade from Win7 any more.Fun fact: WinME is the only OS I have ever seen bluescreen due to a divide by zero error in the kernel. How it actually managed to accomplish this is a mystery even going on 20 years later.
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Oct 29, 2020 02:16
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Oh yeah win10 has passed it's tests but i'm due to upgrade soon anyhow since this one is 8 years old now haha i'll get win10 when i get my new computer.
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Oct 29, 2020 02:26
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Thundarr posted:I can understand being upgrade shy after having put up with ME and Vista
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Oct 29, 2020 02:28
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Hello Games: "vast bases" Me: Challenge accepted.
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Oct 29, 2020 02:29
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i built a giant tower to chill in but i spend 99% of my time on the bottom floor main room where i put all the useful poo poo
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Oct 29, 2020 03:21
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Personally I wish that they would overhaul freighter bases, because I really struggle with getting myself to build a planet base instead of the base that I can bring with me wherever I want At least let me put some windows in
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Oct 29, 2020 03:49
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Skeletal freighters that you could fill in would be so loving amazing esp if they increase the base size. Imagine building some green houses in your freighter that you could see from the outside. Start work for the capital ship endgame by being able to build things like mineral gathering drones, turrets and fighter hangars, a dedicated trading pad, transplanted biomes, and straight up more storage. Now you'll have to make some decisions and you can start working on capital ship missions just like frigate missions. Do you want to be an industry based capital ship focused on production and trade with frigates being your combat element or do you want to be a fearsome battleship that relies on it's attendant fleet to do all the grunt work? You should be able to give frigate missions when you jump into a new system that would spawn way points and missions that you could do later on so while you explore the planets your fleet explores the system then you could have quest chains making you visit different planets. Rescue a freighter that was damaged and get coordinates to a few pirate bases that leads to a pirate capital ship you can fight which then jumps out and becomes a derelict to explore.
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Oct 29, 2020 04:08
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Alright if anyone can't see the QS quests that trick works, i only visited 2 planets but the 2nd planet was so badass and i'm really loving hoping it's just a fluke and not that they'll be a ton of content that i wasn't seeing because i didn't enable this haha. I got like 10k nanites from those 2 in the anom haha.
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Oct 29, 2020 05:43
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I bought a freighter and I hired a bunch of quality (C, low fuel, etc) frigates so now I have a fleet. The maintenance of frigates immediately disqualified them as a thing. You can't teleport into freighters, so they're the least useful base possible even before the building restrictions. I don't even really need the extra inventory so I haven't bothered farming up the expansions. This effect flows on to derelict farming, which is just kind of meh given the rewards are all designed to enhance that side of the game. Just give me large extractors and large bins and a massive build limit increase you cowards.
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Oct 29, 2020 06:07
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Mailer posted:You can't teleport into freighters, so they're the least useful base possible even before the building restrictions. That's because you can teleport them to you.
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Oct 29, 2020 06:15
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Yeah, once you have a network of bases you can instantly warp between that's cool if you never leave your bases. Your freighter is anywhere in the universe you want it to be, on demand. That's pretty handy! Frigates mostly exist to make passive money but when you are already maximally space rich  . I guess it's another thing you can shoot for getting lots of S ranks in if you like the color orange, and its kind of funny watching combat frigates helpfully deploy fighters just in time to watch you vaporize every enemy ship yourself.
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Oct 29, 2020 08:14
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Poniard posted:i built a giant tower to chill in but i spend 99% of my time on the bottom floor main room where i put all the useful poo poo that's why I filled my own dumb towers with short-range teleporters so my lazy rear end can be at the top pretty drat fast, no matter the height just uh, remember to put message modules down with labels next to them, don't do it like me and accidentally turn most of your tower into a huge trap when a glitch turns you around halfway up
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Oct 29, 2020 09:27
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What's bugging me about the frigate game is that I've yet to see a single four-star or five-star mission even though my fleet is now half S-ranked and almost all A ranked. The exception being the industrial frigs since I also have seen like one industrial mission ever so I've taken to just letting them tag along balanced missions with the fuel-bonused support frigates, so they can at least get some cheap experience. Does my freighter have to be in a blue system or something to get hard missions?
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Oct 29, 2020 16:03
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Elotana posted:What's bugging me about the frigate game is that I've yet to see a single four-star or five-star mission even though my fleet is now half S-ranked and almost all A ranked. The exception being the industrial frigs since I also have seen like one industrial mission ever so I've taken to just letting them tag along balanced missions with the fuel-bonused support frigates, so they can at least get some cheap experience. Does my freighter have to be in a blue system or something to get hard missions?
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Oct 29, 2020 16:16
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Hyperactive posted:The difficulty rating appears to be relative. You are doing max difficulty missions but because your fleet is so powerful they are showing as 3 stars. If you traded your S-class frigates for a bunch of C-class then that 3-star mission ought to suddenly become 5-star. You’re getting the same rewards either way. I'm not sure that's right. I've just launched a bunch of 3-star missions and while the fleet rating jumped up to 4 stars thanks to the many, many frigates I've collected, the mission rating staid at 3.
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Oct 29, 2020 16:20
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Libluini posted:I'm not sure that's right. I've just launched a bunch of 3-star missions and while the fleet rating jumped up to 4 stars thanks to the many, many frigates I've collected, the mission rating staid at 3.
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Oct 29, 2020 16:24
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I'm 90% mission rating difficulty is initially shown as "how hard the mission would be if you sent out a gek on a scooter after freighter upgrades are taken into account" but I won't be able to test that until after the missions rotate today
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Oct 29, 2020 16:55
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if the difficulty rating really does scale with your fleet... it's an incredibly dumb design decision. just let me send a 6-star fleet on a 5-star mission or whatever, and actually feel like leveling all those ships up was worth it, instead of implying that having s-ranked ships doesn't matter because all the missions are just b-ranked. like imagine a game where once you hit level 10, all the enemies that were level 9 are instead shown as level 5. what purpose could that possibly serve aside from making me feel like leveling up was unnecessary? this game is truly a masterclass in poor design decisions
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Oct 29, 2020 17:03
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If it scales like that it's pretty dumb, but at least it means you'll never have to fly out and repair the things because they'll never get damaged.
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Oct 29, 2020 17:10
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of all of the things broken in this game i'm surprised that "quest difficulty that takes your equipment into account when saying how difficult it is" even registers on your radar of things to complain about tbh
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Oct 29, 2020 17:17
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(edit) nevermind, I misunderstood
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Muscle Tracer posted:if the difficulty rating really does scale with your fleet... it's an incredibly dumb design decision. just let me send a 6-star fleet on a 5-star mission or whatever, and actually feel like leveling all those ships up was worth it, instead of implying that having s-ranked ships doesn't matter because all the missions are just b-ranked. But the alternative explanation is straight up moronic. The game stops giving you its hardest and most rewarding frigate missions when your frigates are strong enough to easily handle them? That makes no sense. By comparison, displaying a subjective difficulty rating is a little unintuitive but at least there's a logic to it even if we don't agree that it's the best logic. Thundarr posted:If it scales like that it's pretty dumb, but at least it means you'll never have to fly out and repair the things because they'll never get damaged.
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Now speaking of something hilarious, I forgot what "100% bounce back" means after installing an S-class plasma launcher upgrade. Cue me managing to roll a plasma grenade directly under my own feet four times in a row during a run on a derelict freighter The best part? Every explosion still took out an entire room full of those spitting bug monsters, so I still made progress, just slower then usual. Also never forget to put your ammunition into your cargo slots, as nothing is more embarrassing as having to hope you can get to your space coffin before the space monsters can eat you. This and remembering to only use S-class plasma launcher upgrades without bounce back are lessons to live by.
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Mailer posted:I bought a freighter and I hired a bunch of quality (C, low fuel, etc) frigates so now I have a fleet. The maintenance of frigates immediately disqualified them as a thing. You can't teleport into freighters, so they're the least useful base possible even before the building restrictions. I don't even really need the extra inventory so I haven't bothered farming up the expansions. Are you talking about fuel and repairing the frigates when you say maintenance? I literally just got my first damaged frigate yesterday because i always ensure i'm sending a couple stars above what they're asking. As for freighter expansion the tech and bulkheads need derelicts but the salvage modules are absurdly easy to farm off NPC freighters without any repercussions at all. Always remember you can put 9 global storage containers inside your freighter giving it 180 cargo sized inventory slots anywhere in the universe and the ability to summon exo vehicles on any planet which is amazing once you upgrade a few of them. The frigate missions are always static with the jump distance determining the reward and the stars determining whether or not you'll be successful at each stop. If you're always a star above the mission you'll have to be very unlucky to get a damaged frigate.
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About frigate repairs: The first few times helping out your hapless crew is fun, but then you start wondering why you can't just automate that poo poo. Then you have all those freighter-adventures shooting green goo and goo monsters, while reading harrowing stories about "infestations" in crew members, remember all that green goo that you always have to clean up in your frigates and get creeped out. Maybe the reason why your NPC-crew can't deal with that poo poo alone is that as the Traveler, you're the only one who can interact with that green bullshit without mutating into a space monster?
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Arghy posted:I mean if there was at least a FAQ or something that noticed oh hey your on win7 you might wanna do this thing! It's a pretty big loving point and i know a lot of people still on win7 while they wait for new tech to buy another computer. I was on windows 98 forever and only got on XP a few years before 7. I got windows ME and vista for free and had to reinstall back to 98 each time haha ain't touching a new windows OS for at least half a decade now. You can upgrade from 7 to 10 entirely for free. Microsoft said they ended the program but the upgrade tool can still be downloaded from MS directly and it still works. I just did one last month for someone.
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:of all of the things broken in this game i'm surprised that "quest difficulty that takes your equipment into account when saying how difficult it is" even registers on your radar of things to complain about tbh every thing in the game is broken, and i make it a point to complain about all of them. for instance, why is "make more of this" bound to the same button as "change inventory tabs" and doesn't switch contexts until like half a second after you hover over the inventory item you want to make more of? it's sheer madness!
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Oct 29, 2020 19:58
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Muscle Tracer posted:every thing in the game is broken, and i make it a point to complain about all of them. Yeah, that drives me nuts too honestly. End up somewhere random in my inventory all the time.
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Oct 29, 2020 20:02
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The animus beam you get during the living ship quest is actually pretty solid as a weapon and for mining things that don't need the advanced laser to damage. Too bad you can't refine the soul bits you extract from animals with it into anything useful. Plus it refuels with di-hydrogen which I have mountains of already for making frigate fuel. I think I'm waiting on the last timer now before it finishes, then I can go on a galaxy hopping trip with a shiny new space bug.
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Hyperactive posted:The difficulty rating appears to be relative. You are doing max difficulty missions but because your fleet is so powerful they are showing as 3 stars. If you traded your S-class frigates for a bunch of C-class then that 3-star mission ought to suddenly become 5-star. You’re getting the same rewards either way. Another dumb gear-grinding bitch I have is that you can sell things from your exosuit or starship inventory but not your freighter inventory, even if you're selling at a terminal literally on your freighter. The biggest time-sink for missions at this point now that the frigates aren't getting dinged up is moving all the loot from my freighter to my exosuit. (This isn't nearly as annoying as frigate repair, but still.) Elotana fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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Thundarr posted:Yeah, once you have a network of bases you can instantly warp between that's cool if you never leave your bases. Your freighter is anywhere in the universe you want it to be, on demand. That's pretty handy! I can see the case for having an extra inventory, it's just not something that personally affects me even with only nine slots available in my main inventory. In theory you could jump to the core faster but manually jumping to the core is space madness. It's good for farming relics for the system's race easily and provides another Number Go Up thing to grind but I don't think I've even seen my freighter more than three times in a good 160 hours. There's nothing to do on a freighter that couldn't be done better by plunking down a teleporter and warping to a resource farm or my home. Having teleporters all over the place kind of kills the whole mobile base idea. Passive asteroid mining or some other function that's unique to freighters would be very welcome.
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Elotana posted:I never saw any even when they were all C-class! I sell from freighter inventory all the time, unless you mean the storage boxes. It wouldn't surprise me to hear you need the freighter's matter transmission tech to sell directly from it even if you're on the freighter though.
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Well I mean being able to instantly grab anything from my storage units without having to build anything, load into another system, or poo poo up my locations list with a billion base teleporters is mainly what my freighter gets used for. That and letting me summon exocraft at will without building anything either.
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You haven't seen how bad the base storage is managed until you've seen the freighter storage UI, of course i want to manually go from giant box to giant box trying to find the correct one instead of just scrolling through windows. Did the new patch add all this stupid volumetric fog and poo poo? Thank god for terrain following auto pilot because i landed during a storm and pretty much flew into a giant valleys wall because i couldn't see 10m ahead of me.
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Guys, you can scroll your storage boxes in the normal freighter inventory view, same as you do with your suit cargo/tech pages. You don’t need to go to each box. I’m not sure when they added this, but it changed my life.
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Yeah you absolutely do not need to be on the freighter clicking on rooms to get stuff guys. If your freighter is in system and has the inventory teleporter installed, you can instantly access 100% of everything in your freighter or storage inventory while walking around on a planet. And its even a better UI than the godawful legacy "click on a square in your suit inventory and scroll through a billion windows that only show 8 things at once"!
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