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teagone posted:Just wanna make an appreciation post for the aspect ratio opening up during the krayt battle. I had to rewind it during that part to watch it again because the transition was executed perfectly. I remember the same feeling during The Hunger Games Catching Fire when the AR transitioned to full IMAX at the part where Katniss rose up into the arena during the countdown. Are there any other movies or shows that have done the same thing? It's a pretty effective filmic technique to indicate poo poo's about to get real. Love that. American Dad lampshades it as a joke every time they continue the series-long intermittent plot of Roger's golden turd that brings horrible misfortune on everyone who finds it. The "end" of the plot was back in one of the Christmas episodes, and the aspect ratio changed to reflect that (0:30 in this clip) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfpyktaUydA I was insanely bothered by the way Pedro pronounced "ichor." The gently caress is "icker"? Also, OP: Mando's name is spelled Din Djarin.
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Oct 30, 2020 21:34
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chitoryu12 posted:I said this in the last thread and I'll say it again: not every TV show needs to be "prestige" with every episode being drama and plot twists. Not only because it's easy for that kind of show to start breaking down (because it's almost impossible to plot things out for dozens of episodes in advance and eventually you have to start getting into asspulls or repeating plots and character beats), but because that kind of show also makes it hard to just be fun. This is Star Wars, man. You get the overarching plot but you're also here to see a badass in gleaming silver armor fly around on his jetpack and shoot a bunch of people, or get into dogfights with his cool spaceship. And that's fine. Personally I would have preferred a bit more emphasis on the overarching plot in the premiere of an 8 episode season, especially when it's twice as long as previous episodes. big laffo to the bolded part though. e:vvv that's a good point re: setting expectations CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:And that's fine. Personally I would have preferred a bit more emphasis on the overarching plot in the premiere of an 8 episode season, especially when it's twice as long as previous episodes. I honestly loved it being the premiere episode. A reminder right off the bat of what this show is about. A big plot episode for the first episode might have people wanting more of that for the rest of the season, and being annoyed when it didn't happen. This sets the tone. (And was an awesome episode.) I couldn't be happier.
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Oct 30, 2020 21:56
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Fully sick episode. I'm glad even though I'm a huge Star Wars nerd who was waving around my various Lego Mandalorian Lego sets while watching it (with my generally much less nerdy girlfriend who was still totally into it and doing the same) I can enjoy the various references and callbacks without getting angry about it contradicting some other EU poo poo I apparently haven't read.
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Oct 30, 2020 21:58
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thrawn527 posted:Christopher Nolan famously did it for The Dark Knight for the opening bank robbery scene, and a few other scenes if I remember correctly. Pretty sure he did it in Dark Knight Rises and Interstellar, too. Yeah, I know Nolan swaps to IMAX AR for certain scenes in a few of his movies, but they're all—to my knowledge—hardcuts from traditional wide AR to the IMAX/open matte AR. Mandalorian and Catching Fire both open up the AR with a slow transition that plays off the energy/tension of the scene playing out; that's what I'm referring to. [Edit] oh yeah, forgot about the transition in Fallout. Slowly opening the AR like that works so well as like a set piece indicator. teagone fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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Oct 30, 2020 22:00
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teagone posted:Yeah, I know Nolan swaps to IMAX AR for certain scenes in a few of his movies, but they're all—to my knowledge—hardcuts from traditional wide AR to the IMAX/open matte AR. Mandalorian and Catching Fire both open up the AR with a slow transition that plays off the energy/tension of the scene playing out; that's what I'm referring to. Oh, sorry, I missed that you were referring to the "opening up" part.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:04
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No big! The Mandalorian AR transition was super seamless. I didn't notice the AR changed until the close up shot of Cobb. That's why I had to rewind it lol. I wanted to see when the AR started to open up. It's so good.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:07
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I actually really liked that someone who'd never seen any of this before could've easily watched this episode and understood all of it, sometimes it's good having a self-contained episode. I also liked how Mando and the Marshal were able to have a regular talking volume conversation whilst racing their speeders through the desert because really they were riding horses.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:08
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Butterfly Valley posted:Fully sick episode. I'm glad even though I'm a huge Star Wars nerd who was waving around my various Lego Mandalorian Lego sets while watching it (with my generally much less nerdy girlfriend who was still totally into it and doing the same) I can enjoy the various references and callbacks without getting angry about it contradicting some other EU poo poo I apparently haven't read.  Me when I see an easter egg so I can go bitch about being pandered to
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Oct 30, 2020 22:17
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My favorite touch was the call back to the reversing shot of the Raider attacking Luke in Episode 4 (30:50)
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Oct 30, 2020 22:28
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Okay, correct me if I I'm wrong about the end, but isn't Temuera Morrison too old to be Boba Fett in 8-9ish ABY? Fett would be ~40. Morrison is the perfect age to be one of the younger clones, though! Of course small details like that take backseat to story, so maybe they'll just lean into it.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:39
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Stickman posted:Okay, correct me if I I'm wrong about the end, but isn't Temuera Morrison too old to be Boba Fett in 8-9ish ABY? Fett would be ~40. Morrison is the perfect age to be one of the younger clones, though! Tatooine is hard livin' Look what it did to Obi-Wan in 17 years
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Stickman posted:Okay, correct me if I I'm wrong about the end, but isn't Temuera Morrison too old to be Boba Fett in 8-9ish ABY? Fett would be ~40. Morrison is the perfect age to be one of the younger clones, though! Getting eaten by a sarlacc pit does poo poo to you I guess.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:48
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That, and Clones are supposed to age faster (when the plot wants them to).
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Stickman posted:Okay, correct me if I I'm wrong about the end, but isn't Temuera Morrison too old to be Boba Fett in 8-9ish ABY? Fett would be ~40. Morrison is the perfect age to be one of the younger clones, though! Could be the clones' accelerated aging kicking in. Also, the desert ages you like crazy.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:49
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Tatooine is hard livin' teagone posted:Getting eaten by a sarlacc pit does poo poo to you I guess. tribbledirigible posted:Also, the desert ages you like crazy. Very good points. Technically, Boba is an unaltered clone without growth acceleration, so I don't think he'd age faster like the troopers. In the end, the answer is "whatever the plot wants", though!
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I think one of my favourite things about this show is the self contained stories. It allows them to try out dramatically different locations, moods and themes and characters without overly bogging down the greater story. This one was clearly inspired by westerns, we've had a prison heist, empowering villagers fight back against oppressors, etc. All well worn tropes, and as mentioned before, very 90s television, but it's a nice change of pace in 2020. Though like others the constant pandering is pretty tiresome, especially given the opportunity to world build in such a fantastic setting. The show nails the lived in fantasy universe feelings that made the original movies so endearing, and I feel that constantly pointing at 'hey here's that thing that was in the other movie, look it's the same one!' kind of makes that world feel small. Though I suppose realistically, up until Boba Fett, most of the references have been subtle enough that most people that aren't turbo nerds like us probably don't even notice. Speaking of which, his crystal container that Olyphant stole was totally the ice cream maker, right? Isometric Bacon fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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I like how they keep it light by having comedians fill minor roles - Amy Sedaris, Bill Burr, Jason Sudekis (his was one of funniest moments in any series, IMO) and now John Leguizamo. It's a great way to keep the show from taking itself too seriously, even in spite of the space monsters and hokey magic tropes. Honest Trailers called Gideon "Pollos Imperiales," which was also hilarious. Overall, a very good episode and lots of potential going forward. The only two things that I didn't dig were Mando suddenly being fluent in Tusken (just like it would be weird if Han busted out Wookie, it was very out of place) and Mando surviving the acid belly unscathed after they made a big deal about everyone else getting melted - that stretched my suspension of disbelief, even again if it's space monsters. Oh, I know it's Disney and all, but the no blood after the thug at the opening gets stabbed in the heart made me think why they just didn't go for a knockout death instead.
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Isometric Bacon posted:Speaking of which, his crystal container that Olyphant stole was totally the ice cream maker, right? Did you miss where the same prop was prominently used in the first series to store Mando's beskar reward? IT BURNS posted:Mando surviving the acid belly unscathed after they made a big deal about everyone else getting melted - that stretched my suspension of disbelief, even again if it's space monsters. The poo poo that melted people was analogous to snake venom, you saw it being sprayed out of special glands in what amounted to a giant sand snake's mouth. Doesn't mean the stomach's gonna be full of the same poo poo
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IT BURNS posted:(just like it would be weird if Han busted out Wookie, it was very out of place) You know he did that in Solo, right? Like, it was kind of broken, but he still knew it. edit: Unless that’s the joke. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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Oct 30, 2020 23:01
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teagone posted:Just wanna make an appreciation post for the aspect ratio opening up during the krayt battle. I had to rewind it during that part to watch it again because the transition was executed perfectly. I remember the same feeling during The Hunger Games Catching Fire when the AR transitioned to full IMAX at the part where Katniss rose up into the arena during the countdown. Are there any other movies or shows that have done the same thing? It's a pretty effective filmic technique to indicate poo poo's about to get real. Love that. Tron legacy is easily the best one of all time. Every scene in the real world was in 2D so you had to keep your glasses on because the moment Sam gets shot by the Tron laser the entire screen not only opens up but becomes 3D in that moment. Coolest poo poo I’ve ever seen.
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I think we're burying the lede here, that this is the episode that a Gamorean missed a plancha spot and took a table bump.
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Soonmot posted:I can tell most of these posters are babies who didn't grow up watching 80's and 90's tv shows because holy poo poo, hardly ever were there actual story arcs for more than a handful of espiodes a season. Hell, I remember that one reason I loved the poo poo out of Wiseguy was because it had actual story arcs. Almost every other TV show barring soap operas was almost totally episodic in nature. If Magnum on Magnum P.I. met the lost love of his life and she died. He'd be really sad in that episode and in the next he'd be back loving hot girls in bikinis again and the "lost love" would never be mentioned again.
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IT BURNS posted:The only two things that I didn't dig were Mando suddenly being fluent in Tusken This seemed odd to me as well, up until the scene of him making camp and it clicked that if anyone was going to get on well with a tribe of semi-nomadic warriors who never show anyone their face, it would be him.
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CelticPredator posted:Tron legacy is easily the best one of all time. Oh yeah gently caress, I remember that one now too. That one owned.
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BizarroAzrael posted:I think we're burying the lede here, that this is the episode that a Gamorean missed a plancha spot and took a table bump. I definitely let out a “bah gawd” when the Gamorean jumped on the table. Also Temurra’s real age won’t really matter once he puts the armor back on and can be swapped with a stunt double.
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I figure there's a chance that Temura will also be back as Commander Rex as well later
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Didn't Mando communicate with them last season and brought up they are not savages like all are to believe? It's in everyones favorite episode to hate - I personally loved it.
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Oct 30, 2020 23:43
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I think anyone who establishes themselves in Star Wars's underworld will spend a lot of time on Tatooine. There's something I'm sure is a reference but can't pin down, the Jawa's seem to offer Cobb the head head of a (protocol?) droid. I've checked and it's not the McQuarrie design for Threepio. Anyone recognize it?
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Carteret posted:My favorite touch was the call back to the reversing shot of the Raider attacking Luke in Episode 4 (30:50) I may not love this episode, but that moment was so goddamn brilliant it should have it's own award category.
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IT BURNS posted:I like how they keep it light by having comedians fill minor roles - Amy Sedaris, Bill Burr, Jason Sudekis (his was one of funniest moments in any series, IMO) and now John Leguizamo Didn't know that until literally just now - I was wondering why his voice was sounding so familiar.
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teagone posted:I thought it was from Red Letter Media, specifically Rich Evans. But lmao, I guess he got it from South Park. That makes sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncps_RYHoAI For a minute I also thought Mando was gonna eventually let him keep the armor, but I guess it makes sense he wouldn't since Dyn wouldn't even take his helmet off to save his own life. I wonder if his whole guild or whatever is like that because they almost got wiped out, or if it's like most organizations that follow a code of honor where like three people strictly adhere to it and everyone just pretends they do and ignores it when convenient. No, what I was thinking the entire time I was watching was that Cobb would crawfish and turn on Din once it was time to settle up, or that he would bail on everyone once poo poo got too real. The revelation being that he's a sort of con man who breezes into town and gets people to trust him by looking the part and taking on some low level goons that are actually working with him. I probably got this impression because the two Olyphant characters I always think of are Bullock, who doesn't really smile much because he's busy barely containing his rage, and the guy from The Girl Next Door who's a sleazy porn guy but oddly charming and always smiling. Cobb seemed a lot more like the latter than the former, but that character would probably have been too much like Calican. CubanMissile fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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IBroughttheFunk posted:Didn't know that until literally just now - I was wondering why his voice was sounding so familiar. Seeing his name in the credits, I tried to remember who it was, and something triggered in my brain - "Luigi". Then I thought it must just be the Leguizamo reminds me of Luigi. Oh but he was totally Luigi. Except I was thinking of the guy in Super Mario Super Show. CubanMissile posted:I probably got this impression because the two Olyphant characters I always think of are Bullock, who doesn't really smile much because he's busy barely containing his rage, and the guy from The Girl Next Door who's a sleazy porn guy but oddly charming and always smiling. Cobb seemed a lot more like the latter than the former. There's also the precedent set by Jodo Kast in the old EU and one of the few other characters to be shown in Mandalorian gear before the prequels, who was a pretender cashing in on Fett's rep. BizarroAzrael fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Oct 30, 2020 |
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Oct 30, 2020 23:55
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BizarroAzrael posted:I think anyone who establishes themselves in Star Wars's underworld will spend a lot of time on Tatooine. It's CZ-3 from the sandcrawler scene in ANH at 1:35 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09VTanKXsWs It shows up in the background somewhere else in the OT but I can't recall where
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Droids of the same type are also in Mos Eisley when Luke's selling his car, and a couple are in Jabba's palace (one of which is also dismembered).
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I loved Tron Legacy when it came out but man that de-aging technology doesn't hold up well over the years. Looks even worse than Rogue One.
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The background one I was thinking of is the cleverly-named CZ-4, from the droid torture chamber scene. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/CZ-4
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