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Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Facebook Aunt posted:

The Helmsman blurts out, "sry mom agro got to eat dinner brb 1hour" and vanishes. With both the helmsman and the assistant helmsman missing you can't leave port. 3 more crewmen log out.

This is a solved problem. ‘Agent Smithing’ or whatever stupid name they came up with means any time someone logs from a group a flawless Turing-destroying AI takes over that person’s duties. This is literally what they believe.

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Kosmo Gallion
Sep 13, 2013
Is this game still not out yet?

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Entropic posted:

I assume you're just making drinks for AI passengers right? Because why would a human player buy a virtual drink just to-- you know what, I'm overthinking it, this minigame is never going to actually exist anyway.

Everyone will know what a classy gent I am by my sophisticated choice of drink in the spaceman game (first class cabin, naturally).

Shaken not stirred, waiter! *Martini is vomited out a machine like those bright blue slush drinks*

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

Sankis posted:

I've mentioned it before but seeing those long fantasy posts about how Star Citizen will play really take me back 20 years to when people were doing the same for the scam mmo "Dawn".

poo poo never changes. Hell, I bet it's some of the same people.

edit: it'd be funny if using Mark Hamill's likeness on that computer led to legal issues

lol yo isnt mark hamill on the payroll lmfao

hahjah

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

quote:

If you want to go mining then it's probably going to be a good idea to get a couple of buddies to come along in a Cutlass Red, that way you have more storage, more people mining and can go an heal regularly. Or if you want to go all out you could bring along an Apollo Triage. That way if you and all the people working for/with you get injured at the same time there are plenty of treatment beds and storage for extra medical equipment and supplies.

I'd probably bring enough people along so that there would be at least one qualified medic and one nurse always aboard the Apollo so that the nurse can meet and greet injured people coming aboard, they would then assess the need level of the patient. Then you could have the 6 beds in order of almost fine to critical. So for example, lets say me and 6 buddies want to mine we would probably bring a small gang fleet like a Cutlass Black, Freelancer MAX and then hire a couple other players to come along in an Apollo. We would obviously also need a scout in a fast single seater ship that would have the job of keep an eye out for enemy ships and also looking for the next mine.

Although now interdiction ships are going to be common as poo poo it might be an idea to have a escort ship like a Hammerhead along. That way he can be with the ship taking the ore to sell. So it'll take about 15 people which may not make the profit worth wasting time on. So maybe not a Hammerhead, I think just another Cutlass Black as 2 of them together with 4 crew (2 per ship) can kill an interdiction ship and also carry a decent amount of cargo and bring back medical supplies, food, drinks and ammo etc.

Personally I hate mining, so I'd be aboard the Apollo overseeing everything, deciding who does the mining, keeping a list of who is getting injured the most frequently and how much ore they are mining as well as over seeing logistics and helping out with triage in the event of multiple casualties. Any miners that are getting injured too often will be given training by the best miner but if they don;t get much better then they go home with the next cargo load and we try a new hire out. Those that are very efficient will be given better meals and I might invite the top ones after work to my cabin for some rare and exotic food and drinks as a reward for their hard work and to ensure they want to remain a member of my crew.

If we ever a find a planet with abundant mines I will probably bring a bigger ship such as a Constellation Andromeda to command my staff from, that way I could bring more supplies and miners. It's got a decent number of beds, lockers and a toilet etc to keep the workers happy. With it having a Snub fighter it means that the scout ship will have an escort to help keep it safe it can also run messages back and forth in the even of some sort of EMP event that temporarily knock out radio communications. The only down side is the size of the food prep and eating area but I'd just have to work out a shift timetable to make sure it never gets too crowded.

I suppose if there is enough interest in these mining expeditions then I could bring one luxury ship with more beds, a big kitchen and mess hall and area for the crew to R&R. That way after a herd days work they can get the nutrition and rest that will help keep them strong and capable of staying on top of their game. Plus if I could put things like gambling machines and Black Jack tables etc on board I could recuperate some of the money they get paid from them losing at gambling. Could even have a tier system of food, so the top miners get access to quality food and drinks where as the worse miners get basic supplies but can purchase better food if they should choose so. They could also upgrade to more luxury sleeping quarters.

Anyway, all of this would be temporary until the Endeavor ship comes out, I will of course be using this as my Command Ship to lead a fleet doing much more than just mining. But I don't want to ramble on about that here unless you do want to hear how I think things will turn out with that.

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008
Why is mining still so dangerous in the future, just have some robots do it goddamn

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE
these people are trying to imagine their best fantasy life in an epic space opera universe, and it's still full of drudgery, menial work and nothingness

why are they so loving boring

HJE-Cobra
Jul 15, 2007

Bear Witness

Hell Gem
Lol at constantly mentioning how miners would be injured and the different tiers of food they might get. The best miners might even eat exotic foods in the Captain's quarters!

LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009

Nap Ghost
personally, i hate menial tasks, so i would be the leader

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE
have citizens ever explained why people (and a lot of people, because you'd need a lot to fill all the peasant jobs) would want to pay for this game just to do some poo poo, boring, punishing job that is even less fun than doing mining in EVE instead of just playing another game

RottenK fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Nov 3, 2020

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


Caesar Saladin posted:

I don't understand why half of these guys want to do paperwork in their game. Like, to go through space customs with their cargo and sign a bunch of space documents. What kind of fantasy is that? Going through meaningless space bureaucracy sounds like fun to them?

They really don't they're just building imagination land in their head to escape reality, from my experience if the game actually came out most of them will bounce right off the boring stuff when they realize it's boring.
People generally don't know how to express what they actually want.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

RottenK posted:

have citizens ever explained why people (and a lot of people, because you'd need a lot to fill all the peasant jobs) would want to pay for this game just to do some poo poo, boring, punishing job that is even less fun than doing mining in EVE instead of just playing another game

quote:

There needs to be enough players with entry level ships so that they see it as a positive and privilege to be invited to work on my larger ship and become part of my crew. Their reward (apart from wages) will be to explore and adventure in places they would never survive solo. All in all it's a win win situation to own and crew a larger ship which will then be part of a fleet.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Flannelette posted:

They really don't they're just building imagination land in their head to escape reality, from my experience if the game actually came out most of them will bounce right off the boring stuff when they realize it's boring.
People generally don't know how to express what they actually want.

case in point, SCUM

months before release they would put out videos showing how much care you had to put into playing

from monitoring your vitamin intake, to using the bathroom regularly

and even poo poo like if you got clothing wet, it would layer the water depending on what you had for an outer layer (rain jacket means your shirt under neath is dry)

totally insane, but people loved it and heralded it as the next coming of video game christ. all this for a game where you still have a chance of dying within 30 seconds of spawn by some shitlord

surprise, it pretty much lasted I think a week or less on the popular streamers list for anyone that gave a poo poo... i heard it is coming back now after some 90 odd patches... and I will certainly give it a go but ONLY if there is a way to turn off the tedium they've added into the game

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE

ah, so that's the common opinion among them, not just this one dude's fanfic?

geez thats delusional

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

star citizen is the crusty nerd way of (to their perception) being the cute IG model and having an army of simps


except literally none of it is happening and it never will

also yadda yadaa simpire lol

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


Statutory Ape posted:

lol yo isnt mark hamill on the payroll lmfao

hahjah

Yeah, for a game. not a computer case.

It's not gonna happen, obviously, hamill seems like a nice dude. it'd just be funny

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Caesar Saladin posted:

I don't understand why half of these guys want to do paperwork in their game. Like, to go through space customs with their cargo and sign a bunch of space documents. What kind of fantasy is that? Going through meaningless space bureaucracy sounds like fun to them?

Cargo cult? Imagine someone whose ideas of wealth and sophistication all come from Donald Trump photo ops. What do bosses do? Paperwork, have meetings, have dinner meetings, play golf, and sign documents with sharpies while their lackys stand around and applaud. So that's what you have to do if you want to roleplay a boss.

Grundma
Mar 26, 2007

DOG controls your destiny. Seek out three items of his favor and then seek his shrine.
The best part of that mining post is that MAYBE if it's a big enough job they'll bring the ship that has a toilet the miners can use

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


The theorycrafting by true believers is better than the non-existent game (n)ever will be.

Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....


Caesar Saladin posted:

I don't understand why half of these guys want to do paperwork in their game. Like, to go through space customs with their cargo and sign a bunch of space documents. What kind of fantasy is that? Going through meaningless space bureaucracy sounds like fun to them?

It is big boy important stuff they don’t get to do in real life.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Play posted:

puzzle pirates solved that issue by making each person on the ship engage with their own puzzle game in order to contribute. I guess you could just sit there but that would hurt you just as much as other people. And the mechanics were limited enough that shenanigans weren't really possible

puzzle pirates was actually kinda rad, a good example of an MMO done well

Imagine if they'd just stolen FTL's mechanics for ship fights

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Sankis posted:

Yeah, for a game. not a computer case.

It's not gonna happen, obviously, hamill seems like a nice dude. it'd just be funny

That'll be why they've used Hamill instead of Gary Oldman or Gillian Anderson. They might actually give a poo poo over image rights and not be impressed by "But you did a couple of days shooting for us six years ago!" as a defense.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard
https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1323387264920035328

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Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
I’m sure they just churn this poo poo out because Elite Dangerous provide what might generously be referred to as its ‘story’ in the same way: a bunch of procgen names of pretend people doing pretend stuff. Sure, ED just does it as text news updates, but they finished their game 6 years ago for about 25 mill, so I give them the edge.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


I'm Titus Costigan, the wannabe Irish space emperor

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

There's that slavery again.

jesus loving christ

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

jesus loving christ

I may have misquoted it very slightly, but that's very much in the spirit of the original.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

quote:

All of this would happen to the very real pirate player, who is a real person, whom I would train like one trains a dog through 'better videogame food', and oh there goes my dick again.

its real stfu

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
Can't wait to log into a game where I do some space mining for a guy who, if I do well enough, will feed me better.

Work on a chain gang or uninstall? Hmm.

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
I think what they want (other than to lord over poorer players) is something like PC Builder Simulator, Car Mechanic Simulator or Viscera Clean Up Detail. Boring, tedious but chill as hell simulations of mundane poo poo. Thing is tho, those are actually relatively well made games and fun in their own way. The Shart Citizen equivalents would be sloppily made rear end that nobody would ever want to engage with.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Casual game player: "I can't wait to log in to get raped and enslaved"

Dynastocles
May 29, 2009

"If you'll excuse me, my dinner time is six o'clock. Only gangsters eat at 9 o'clock, after some bootlegging and a hot game of craps."

Torquemada posted:

This is a solved problem. ‘Agent Smithing’ or whatever stupid name they came up with means any time someone logs from a group a flawless Turing-destroying AI takes over that person’s duties. This is literally what they believe.

If they'll have bots-indistinguishable-from-players, why don't they just make it a single-player experience? No servers, no shards, players won't know the difference -- why not? Gaming saved!

Prism Mirror Lens
Oct 9, 2012

~*"The most intelligent and meaning-rich film he could think of was Shaun of the Dead, I don't think either brain is going to absorb anything you post."*~




:chord:
I think the posts about wanting to do space-paperwork or have a space-janitor are really sweet in a way. These guys just want to “play job” the same way little kids play house. They don’t realise what they actually want is not a videogame but a cringy old-school roleplay chatroom.

Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

Lodin posted:

I think what they want (other than to lord over poorer players) is something like PC Builder Simulator, Car Mechanic Simulator or Viscera Clean Up Detail. Boring, tedious but chill as hell simulations of mundane poo poo. Thing is tho, those are actually relatively well made games and fun in their own way. The Shart Citizen equivalents would be sloppily made rear end that nobody would ever want to engage with.

It seems more like a McDonalds employee simulator where you go home after a long day of cleaning grease traps and log into SC so you can spend your night showing loving Bill just exactly how things would work if you were assistant manager for a change.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Casual game player: "I can't wait to log in to get raped and enslaved"

casuals really are filthy

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Dynastocles posted:

If they'll have bots-indistinguishable-from-players, why don't they just make it a single-player experience? No servers, no shards, players won't know the difference -- why not? Gaming saved!

That would mean leaving free money on the table, I’m not sure if you understand game development.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Casual game player: "I can't wait to log in to get raped and enslaved"

nah, i did that yesterday... i think i'll fill out an application for a dishwasher position in someone else's ship

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



If this game was ever going to come out, I bet there'd be a rush in requests for people from India and similar countries on Fiverr to do the grunt work for the Stardorks.

I am offering $2 for you to make me 1,000 in game cocktails (96% accuracy or above).

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard
https://twitter.com/Jorunn_SC/status/1324357172512333824
https://twitter.com/FieldHood_TGTC/status/1324394491592249344
https://twitter.com/Jag_Hiroshi/status/1324359149292003328

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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Good on them for supporting the N64 in 2020, it makes sense given development started in 1996 though.

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