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GoGoGadget
Apr 29, 2006

How come everyone is saying the Senate being Republican-controlled is a forgone conclusion? I'm seeing it being at 47-47 right now, and if Biden wins Democrats only need to get two seats, right?

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Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

The VP is only a tie-breaker, so 50-50 is the minimum.

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!

GoGoGadget posted:

How come everyone is saying the Senate being Republican-controlled is a forgone conclusion? I'm seeing it being at 47-47 right now, and if Biden wins Democrats only need to get two seats, right?

GOP is likely to pick up NC, Alaska. The 2 in Georgia will end up in a run off which the republicans will most likely win.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Rush Limbaugh is currently a bloo blooing on the radio perplexed as to why Biden is winning because he's boring.

I can't believe I'm going to gloat about this because gently caress Cancer, but I'm well past tired of Trump's cult of personality continuing to spew "Biden is boring" as a valid reason to not vote for him/vote against him, so :lol: if this result holds and Durr Fuhrer losing is the last election Rush lives to see.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Ossof has lost to Perdue twice at this point. If the libertarian vote goes entirely to him in the runoff he might have a chance but tribalism is going to work against that. Warnocks best chance is to win outright since the GOP vote is split. A runoff will make it a Dem v Republican choice and will be much harder to win. That's 2, I don't remember who the other ones are but I had set Dems taking two of them best case.

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!

Also chances are good that should Trump lose the republicans in GA might be more likely to come out in largers numbers for the runoffs

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

GoGoGadget posted:

How come everyone is saying the Senate being Republican-controlled is a forgone conclusion? I'm seeing it being at 47-47 right now, and if Biden wins Democrats only need to get two seats, right?

48-50 D-R headed into GA runoffs. Best bet is looking like an even* split.

*with Manchin.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

lightpole posted:

Ossof has lost to Perdue twice at this point. If the libertarian vote goes entirely to him in the runoff he might have a chance but tribalism is going to work against that. Warnocks best chance is to win outright since the GOP vote is split. A runoff will make it a Dem v Republican choice and will be much harder to win. That's 2, I don't remember who the other ones are but I had set Dems taking two of them best case.

On the other hand, Republicans benefited a LOT from Trump-boosted turnout. Will Republicans still turn out to hold the Senate majority, and will Democrats surge to vote against McConnell? It's hard to say.

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this
Pretty sure it's academic at this point, but if it was a 50-50 split in the senate, who would be majority leader, the side with the VP?

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer
Yup.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Notahippie posted:

That's awesome, just on general principles I would've expected Sherman's family to do the decorum thing and downplay it. I love the idea that they're out there like "poo poo yeah great-granddad burned out the nest of traitors, he'd do it again if he was here today"

Yeah, I was telling her that they should have Sherman statute in Savanah to commemorate Sherman’s Christmas Gifting of the city to Lincoln.

Also worth reposting the final paragraph(cause I love it) of Sherman’s Farewell address.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

Acebuckeye13 posted:

On the other hand, Republicans benefited a LOT from Trump-boosted turnout. Will Republicans still turn out to hold the Senate majority, and will Democrats surge to vote against McConnell? It's hard to say.

There's too much uncertainty for me. Really wishing they had both just won outright.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

lightpole posted:

Ossof has lost to Perdue twice at this point. If the libertarian vote goes entirely to him in the runoff he might have a chance but tribalism is going to work against that. Warnocks best chance is to win outright since the GOP vote is split. A runoff will make it a Dem v Republican choice and will be much harder to win. That's 2, I don't remember who the other ones are but I had set Dems taking two of them best case.

yea.. who ever pegged their hopes on Warnock winning outright just didn't pay attention to GA politics. The only reason Ossof and Perdue have as high of a percentage of the vote as they do is because the Democrats all threw their lots behind Osoff, and Perdue was running incumbent. The Democrats did not all throw their lots behind Warnock even though the entire DNC and GA-DNC pleaded with the other candidates to just sit the gently caress out and give their few percentage points in the hopes that warnock could maybe squeak over the 50.1% points.

Although knowing that GA-Politics on both sides are corrupt as gently caress luckily I think this basically dooms matt liberman to never running for the party again.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Slim Pickens posted:

I mean he was also big on dehumanizing the native americans and slaughtering all the bison in order to control them, but as long as the civil war memes make chuds mad I'll just keep ignoring that elephant in the room

Hey he was also Anti-Semitic (as was Grant, but I truly believed he tried to change himself and repudiate his prior misdeeds, by his work as President for Jewish-Americans), but his good outweighs it and he just makes chuds lose their poo poo like few other things. Which is funny because he wasn’t a radical or even an abolitionist, he just really loved his country so much, unlike say a traitor like Lee.

Sheridan, who helped give us national parks, has...some..issues too. I try and balance the good and bad and be honest about it, but for dunking on chuds like I was Joel Embiid, I’m okay with brevity.

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


Here in Virginia I always try and talk up General Thomas, the Rock of Chicamauga, victor of the battle of Nashville, and I believe the only Virginian general who remained loyal to the Union. Standing by his country even though his entire traitorous family disowned him to me is far more moral courage than Col. Lee ever showed. It's amazing how all the southern heritage types have never heard of one of the most successful Virginian generals during the civil war. He doesn't have the name recognition alas, but it is my dream for a Gen Thomas statue to replace Lee down in Richmond.

Burning Beard
Nov 21, 2008

Choking on bits of fallen bread crumbs
Oh, this burning beard, I have come undone
It's just as I've feared. I have, I have come undone
Bugger dumb the last of academe

Soylent Pudding posted:

Here in Virginia I always try and talk up General Thomas, the Rock of Chicamauga, victor of the battle of Nashville, and I believe the only Virginian general who remained loyal to the Union. Standing by his country even though his entire traitorous family disowned him to me is far more moral courage than Col. Lee ever showed. It's amazing how all the southern heritage types have never heard of one of the most successful Virginian generals during the civil war. He doesn't have the name recognition alas, but it is my dream for a Gen Thomas statue to replace Lee down in Richmond.

Thomas gets overlooked. He is in my top three with Grant and Sherman. Thomas was insanely innovative with the technology available, solid with logistics and administration and knew how to delegate. He also destroyed Hood outside of Nashville.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Soylent Pudding posted:

Here in Virginia I always try and talk up General Thomas, the Rock of Chicamauga, victor of the battle of Nashville, and I believe the only Virginian general who remained loyal to the Union. Standing by his country even though his entire traitorous family disowned him to me is far more moral courage than Col. Lee ever showed. It's amazing how all the southern heritage types have never heard of one of the most successful Virginian generals during the civil war. He doesn't have the name recognition alas, but it is my dream for a Gen Thomas statue to replace Lee down in Richmond.

:gritin:

I want to replace so many of those statues with African American heroes (civil and military), but I also want a few, beyond educational and artistic purpose, to also just remind the South who runs poo poo...forever.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

lmao that Trump paid for oppo research on Fox News

that seems like something that ought to piss off mr Murdoch

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

MazelTovCocktail posted:

:gritin:

I want to replace so many of those statues with African American heroes (civil and military), but I also want a few, beyond educational and artistic purpose, to also just remind the South who runs poo poo...forever.

I've said for a while if they want statues of Lee (erected in the civil rights era to remind folks who's in charge, not out of any remembrance for "heritage"), we should put statues of Sherman in Atlanta and Columbia.

Fallom posted:

lmao that Trump paid for oppo research on Fox News

that seems like something that ought to piss off mr Murdoch

He's now taking donations for his legal fees and to fund any recount efforts.

stackofflapjacks
Apr 7, 2009

Mmmmm

As Nero Danced posted:

He's now taking donations for his legal fees and to fund any recount efforts.


:eng99:

The grift is strong with him, crowd sourcing his bills, to dodge paying his other bills to Deutsche Bank. I thought he's supposed to be rich?

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


stackofflapjacks posted:

:eng99:

The grift is strong with him, crowd sourcing his bills, to dodge paying his other bills to Deutsche Bank. I thought he's supposed to be rich?

Why would you spend your own money when you can make it someone else's patriotic duty to spend theirs for you

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
https://twitter.com/bridgetbhc/status/1324435415416393732?s=20

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


BUT WHAT COULD IT BE!!

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007
"Maybe if we reach across the aisle more and maybe think of some more centrist policies to be represented by a different white septuagenarian"

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?
Alright y'all, I'm gonna hit the hay early once loving more in a hope that there will be some form of result in the morning.

Godspeed

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!

Duzzy Funlop posted:

Alright y'all, I'm gonna hit the hay early once loving more in a hope that there will be some form of result in the morning.

Godspeed

There wont be. Its looking like there really wont even be much of result until tomorrow for us in the country.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Mustang posted:

Do it again Uncle Billy!

lightpole posted:

Ossof has lost to Perdue twice at this point.

:confused: He lost the house special in 2017 to Handel. This is the first race he's run against Perdue.

Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Nov 5, 2020

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Defenestrategy posted:

BUT WHAT COULD IT BE!!

It appears to be the right wing boogieman of socialism, according to expert at losing elections Ds

https://twitter.com/reporterjoe/status/1324440874907033606?s=19

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

Nick Soapdish posted:

It appears to be the right wing boogieman of socialism, according to expert at losing elections Ds

https://twitter.com/reporterjoe/status/1324440874907033606?s=19

You'd think they'd be learn the opposition is going to trot out that horse every drat time even if they're running to the right of Ayn Rand. And yet...

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

As Nero Danced posted:

You'd think they'd be learn the opposition is going to trot out that horse every drat time even if they're running to the right of Ayn Rand. And yet...

Democrats get the popular vote but lose election: aaaahhhh we’ve lost our way!

Democrats win and still win popular vote: Aaaaahhh we’ve lost our way!

Introspection has value but man I feel like they tie themselves in dumb knots when just going hard and doing ground game matters a LOT.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
I've usually been more centrist but the last year or so has pushed me hard left. The Dems need to rebrand their policies to avoid socialist labels. Their policies are popular. Their branding is poo poo.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

DurosKlav posted:

There wont be. Its looking like there really wont even be much of result until tomorrow for us in the country.

Goddamnit, America, get your poo poo in gear and get this done.

I'm getting to my physical limits of how many consecutive evenings I can have a couple of beers and hope for the best on the morrow.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

The DCCC and DNC are loving morons. They want to be GOP lite, the "Moderates" but they keep forgetting that the GOP/RNC has proven that won't attracted Republicans, because they want Trumpism.

Then they snubbed their best people like AOC/Omar/etc. at the DNC and are surprised that Republicans didn't turn out to vote for GOP lite that DCCC ran on.

Its amazing we got this much of the Popular vote as it is.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

mlmp08 posted:

Democrats get the popular vote but lose election: aaaahhhh we’ve lost our way!

Democrats win and still win popular vote: Aaaaahhh we’ve lost our way!

Introspection has value but man I feel like they tie themselves in dumb knots when just going hard and doing ground game matters a LOT.

eh if the SC primary taught us anything it's that ground game doesn't loving matter at all

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us

Nick Soapdish posted:

It appears to be the right wing boogieman of socialism, according to expert at losing elections Ds

https://twitter.com/reporterjoe/status/1324440874907033606?s=19
Heck of a time to be studying the 1848 revolutions.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/hj_mai/status/1324452704597540864?s=21

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

MazelTovCocktail posted:

:gritin:

I want to replace so many of those statues with African American heroes (civil and military), but I also want a few, beyond educational and artistic purpose, to also just remind the South who runs poo poo...forever.

Atlanta needs a 200 ft statue of Sherman standing at sea, reminding uppity white folk of their place like a smirking Statue of Liberty

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

RFC2324 posted:

Atlanta needs a 200 ft statue of Sherman standing at sea, reminding uppity white folk of their place like a smirking Statue of Liberty

:same:

https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1324461368624500738?s=21

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

RFC2324 posted:

Atlanta needs a 200 ft statue of Sherman standing at sea, reminding uppity white folk of their place like a smirking Statue of Liberty

Can we make the torch illuminate at night?

e: Biden just did a 30 second tv announcement, telling everyone to calm down and wait for the votes to get counted. Nothing new, no questions answered, but honestly I think it was brilliant. He addressed the nation, but that was dedicated to an audience of one. Trump is probably screaming at his aids and campaign people that he wants to be on TV right this loving second, and furious that they won't let him because he'll look unhinged. Biden is goading him.

As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Nov 5, 2020

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ZombieApostate
Mar 13, 2011
Sorry, I didn't read your post.

I'm too busy replying to what I wish you said

:allears:

lightpole posted:

I've usually been more centrist but the last year or so has pushed me hard left. The Dems need to rebrand their policies to avoid socialist labels. Their policies are popular. Their branding is poo poo.

They don't even necessarily need to rebrand away from Socialism if they'd just stop demonizing it themselves.

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