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as someone who really enjoys MoS and BvS, in this essay I will prove to you that Superma----
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I'm so tired of hearing about these stupid movies
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There's a good gag about it in the new Animaniacs show. Tour guide: "And on your left is the set where we filmed Batman..." Crowd: *excited* "Ooooo!" Tour Guide: "...v. Superman." Crowd: *disappointed* "Oh."
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David D. Davidson posted:You know reading this makes the Justice League sound incompetent. As opposed to the Theatrical Cut where the League fight Steppenwolf a few times and decide they need to go grave robbing (complete with literal "going to graveyard with shovels in the middle of the night") to raise Superman so he can do this. Hell even in the final scene in the theatrical version, Superman basically does all the work. (Once again taking it's influence from Final Crisis.) That reminds me of the script for the Jack Black Green Lantern film where in the end he realizes that he can make anything with his Green Lantern ring. So uses it to make Superman to fix everything.
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Nov 23, 2020 17:51
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:There's a good gag about it in the new Animaniacs show. Ha! Well done new Animaniacs.
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Nov 23, 2020 18:13
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Seemlar posted:It's not "Superman should smile more" it's "Superman shouldn't look like he can barely stand performing even the most minor acts of heroism" It's interesting. A lot of people found Superman in BVS came off as sociopathic. From what Zack Snyder has said in interviews and such, that was certainly not his intention. But if I was him I would investigate why it is so many people came away with that impression. Obviously the film is undeniably very poorly written, and doesn't really invite the audience into Superman's head space or give him a strong point of view/perspective at all really. It seemed like there was a great opportunity to examine Clark's relationship to the end of Man of Steel, and examine his feelings of guilt. Except the MOS events don't even seem to bother him that much, nor does the disaster in the desert, he's very dismissive to the fact people died when Lois brings it up. He really only seems distressed that people are giving him a hard time on the television about it. That I think is distancing to the audience. Karloff fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Nov 24, 2020 |
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Nov 23, 2020 19:19
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The worst part is that Henry Cavill is, like, charisma personified. And that does manage to come through in the films, but its 100% in spite of the writing, not because of it. In the hands of a decent storyteller, Cavills Superman could easily have become the new standard to beat.
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Nov 23, 2020 19:24
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Uh, he screamed after he killed Zod. What more do you need?!?
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Nov 23, 2020 19:24
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He should have reloaded his arms during a fight.
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Nov 23, 2020 19:38
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The problem is that Cavil isn't as good at the physical kind of acting that say Ryan Gosling or Tom Hardy is good at where they hardly need dialog for their characters. Maybe if they had a proper Jimmy Olson or handled his relationship with Lois differently that would have worked a lot better.
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A scene that doesn't get mentioned too often but really stood out to me in rewatches is the final conversation between Clark and Swanwick, which begins with Clark fuckin throwing a giant hunk of metal at two people which misses them by a handful of yards. They...literally could have died? On the one hand, sure, yaas Antifa King! Stick it to The Man!...? On the other hand though...it's such a bizarrely aggressive, threatening gesture towards people whom you're ostensibly trying to get to trust you. All for the crime of not wanting to get killed by more aliens I guess. It further illustrates the only method by which Snyder can envision his characters interacting with others: through shows of force, shows of violence and intimidation from scowling musclemen who don't speak or understand any language other than fear and animosity. And yes, it gets to the point of making him a completely unsympathetic character, capping off in the entire Batman confrontation where even the most stubborn of men ought to be begging on his knees for help to save his mother but I suppose this one in particular would, like, literally just die if he showed any emotion beyond than anger and machismo to anyone. BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Nov 24, 2020 |
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Nov 23, 2020 21:51
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This is just one man's opinion, but upon recollection I gotta say that nearly every character in every Zach Snyder film I've seen comes across like aliens who have only had human behavior and emotions broadly described to them. I dunno if it's the writing or direction or what, but everybody has a weird uncanniness to them. I won't make any quality judgments about it (alienation is the entire philosophy of Brecht's work and people love that guy), but I will say it certainly seems like a decision
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He's said he doesn't like "normal" comics, because there's no gore or sex, which is why he gravitated towards Watchmen. Then there's this quote: Zack Snyder actually said this posted:Everyone says that about [Christopher Nolans] Batman Begins. "Batmans dark." Im like, okay, "No, Batmans cool." He gets to go to a Tibetan monastery and be trained by ninjas. Okay? I want to do that. But he doesnt, like, get raped in prison. That could happen in my movie. If you want to talk about dark, thats how that would go. So was Batfleck a victim of sexual assault?
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https://twitter.com/lukegranders/status/1330952459607535618 People love to ask Gunn 'well how would YOU know?' on things he's working on.
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Dawgstar posted:https://twitter.com/lukegranders/status/1330952459607535618 Death of the author!
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Dawgstar posted:https://twitter.com/lukegranders/status/1330952459607535618 I think the guy was joking, but Gunn took it all in stride.
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BrianWilly posted:A scene that doesn't get mentioned too often but really stood out to me in rewatches is the final conversation between Clark and Swanwick, which begins with Clark fuckin throwing a giant hunk of metal at two people which misses them by a handful of yards. They...literally could have died? On the one hand, sure, yaas Antifa King! Stick it to The Man!...? On the other hand though...it's such a bizarrely aggressive, threatening gesture towards people whom you're ostensibly trying to get to trust you. All for the crime of not wanting to get killed by more aliens I guess. The thing to me about that scene was if it had been Superman, Lex Luthor and Mercy it would have been perfect. Superman showing that Lex's attempt at surveillance aren't as suitable as he thinks and that if he tries to strong arm Superman it will go badly and that he should just try being friendly instead. I always felt that scene was intended to have Lex (or even just a high ranking employee) instead of the military.
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Codependent Poster posted:I think the guy was joking, but Gunn took it all in stride. Certainly possible, but it's happened so often.
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I don't mean this as any kind of target call out, but it really bums me out that "Superman should be friendly and smiling" is a hot take worth burying with sarcasm. I know you can interpret these characters in thousands of different valid ways, but I do think you can Ship of Theseus your way out of some of them.
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SonicRulez posted:I don't mean this as any kind of target call out, but it really bums me out that "Superman should be friendly and smiling" is a hot take worth burying with sarcasm. Its not a hot take at all. Its just that a common cheap, stupid Internet debate tactic is to take your opponents valid criticisms and, rather than actually engage with them meaningfully, just restate them sarcastically as though theyre ridiculous on their face and not worth addressing. sUpErMaN sHoUlD sAvE pEoPlE
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Superman should do one of two things: be the nicest, friendliest guy in the world who saves everyone Or: be a young, pissed off leftist who beats the poo poo out of slumlords and strike busters.
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Aphrodite posted:What's the second thing?
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Aphrodite posted:What's the second thing? I never said they were mutually exclusive.
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Dawgstar posted:https://twitter.com/lukegranders/status/1330952459607535618 I cannot tell you how much it saps my lifeforce to see Snyder fans in the replies trying to troll James Gunn because they're still mad his movie might ruin the DCEU by not being garbage.
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I just watched Brightburn and its very "meh" but I really want to see the movie in the credits about a twisted Snyderverse starring Michael Rooker as Alex Jones.
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STAC Goat posted:I just watched Brightburn and its very "meh" but I really want to see the movie in the credits about a twisted Snyderverse starring Michael Rooker as Alex Jones. Yup, that tease was better than the actual movie.
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Dawgstar posted:https://twitter.com/lukegranders/status/1330952459607535618 I love posts like these where someone tries to explain a concept to a person who happens to be a leading expert on that concept. But it's extra funny when said expert is a big-name director instead of an obscure scientific genius.  This was probably meant as a joke, but either way it got a laugh out of me.
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WB has announced the global release dates for WW84quote:Wednesday, December 16 Belgium, Bulgaria. Egypt, Estonia, France, Greece, Holland, Iceland, Indonesia, Portugal, South Africa, Switzerland, United Kingdom
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Did anyone tell them we don't even have open theaters here? ...Actually I bet Alberta does.
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I wonder if they'll have the nerve to complain that no one went out and saw their movie. Or if they'll trumpet the fact that it was #1 in the box office after pulling in $9000.
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Aphrodite posted:Did anyone tell them we don't even have open theaters here? They're open in BC. I don't think anyone is going but by God they're open
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Phylodox posted:I wonder if they'll have the nerve to complain that no one went out and saw their movie.
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FilthyImp posted:AMC was advertising private advanced screenings of Croods 2 for the low price of $150 You get the entire theater if you do this though, to be fair.
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$150 to rent a theater actually sounds like a steal. Like if you had a dozen friends you could trust to social distance you could go watch a movie and scream at each other in a weird pandemic social outing. I guess you'd still have to trust the theater to be clean. I'm not sure I love theater enough to do it, but if some friend called me with a plan I might not be able to resist the possibility of leaving my home and seeing friends safely.
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It's the Croods. The $150 is what they charge to unlock the doors to let you out once the movie starts.
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Retro Futurist posted:They're open in BC. I don't think anyone is going but by God they're open You can even rent out an entire theatre for you and 10 friends (please ignore government guidelines that says all indoor social gatherings are prohibited).
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"Hey, man. I rented a theater for a private screening so we can all get together, social distance, and watch a movie together to stay sane." "That sounds kind of awesome. Just having a reason to get out of the house and see you all safely sounds so wonderful. What are we watching?" "The Croods 2." "Uh... I may have something to do that night."
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STAC Goat posted:"Hey, man. I rented a theater for a private screening so we can all get together, social distance, and watch a movie together to stay sane." "I have the coronavirus!"
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