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Nessus posted:I always wondered why not go with just "Latin," context should make it clear you are not talking about the ancient Roman tribe. Referring to Hispanic Americans as ‘Latin’ will make it way more confusing for historians studying the development of the Tejano Empire from a collection of isolated city states into a global hegemon following the Queso Wars.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:There’s no reason to believe that Epstein killed himself. The man had a bright future ahead of himself as a convicted pedophile spending the rest of his life in federal prison. It's not unfathomable that someone in Epstein's situation would turn to suicide, but many details of the case make it seem that it was more likely a homicide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Death Please read the opening section and the Autopsy section.
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Nov 27, 2020 07:12
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oohhboy posted:Australia - China Trade War continues with Wine traiffs. Didnt china used to have grape wine but it fell out of favor with the revolution and Biju become the drink of the people? I thought China had a good relationship with australia
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Nov 27, 2020 08:09
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They did until China began spraying poo poo everywhere and doing genocides
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Nov 27, 2020 08:16
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Han shot first.
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Nov 27, 2020 09:04
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Sonderval posted:Han shot first. lol
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Nov 27, 2020 09:07
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 ^^Australia/China war/feud has been going for years, much longer than most realise. You have had repeated computer attacks. Chinese overseas students attacking people on campus. Literal Chinese spies/agents they have arrested around mid year. CCP mother fuckers pretending to be police to intimidate people. I am sure if I do a Google there will be a handy article listing the poo poo on the first page. The Aussies have had some ugly misses here and there like when they accused an MP as an CCP stooge and not a citizen with literally nothing but her being Asian. iirc she is second generation, probably wrong but she is completely innocent. I think there was someone else who was guilty that had to quit. This was in this weird time where they were arguing who was qualified to be a MP due to some weird technical wording, it was dumb AF but they worked it out.
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Nov 27, 2020 09:18
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Just in case someone thinks t* is some 4d chess player who cares about loving over the ccp for whatever reason this happened. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54926759 quote:The US Commerce Department has halted a ban on TikTok that was due to come into effect on Thursday night. I guess he forgot.  Yeah, nah. He was playing games to score points for the election. Everything he does is for immediate profit, ego boost and as a fascist wannabe he needs a scapegoat. He also forgot. Also he still isn't conceding, he says he will "Quit" and leave on his own. I am a little disappointed that they might not get the opportunity to drag him out of the WH.
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Nov 27, 2020 09:30
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Warbadger posted:Watch The Mole if you want a glimpse of pure strain tankies. I just watched this, mostly for the tankies, but holy poo poo that was wild. It's James Bond recorded on phone cameras.
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Nov 27, 2020 11:28
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BrainDance posted:I just watched this, mostly for the tankies, but holy poo poo that was wild. If anyone wants any more lols at Alejandro Cao de Benos I would also recommend the older documentary Friends of Kim where he takes a group of visitors to North Korea. He eventually decides he doesn't like the way an ABC cameraman in the group is filming the trip and breaks into his hotel room and steals his tapes, and the guy, an experienced journalist, is wigged out about it to the point that he debates fleeing to the Swedish Embassy and seeking asylum.
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Nov 27, 2020 11:34
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Ups_rail posted:If you havent followed it. There s been a push in acedemia to preplace latino for latinx because its a gendered noun. Bumping this derail to say nobody but gringos and gringo fetishizers have ever given a single solitary gently caress about latino/latina. Pan-latinism is one of single stupidest concepts that Americans are obsessed with for absolutely no reason. Remove the concept of Latin America from your brain. Nessus posted:I always wondered why not go with just "Latin," context should make it clear you are not talking about the ancient Roman tribe. Lazio exists and the correct English demonym for its people is still Latin. In Italian they are Laziale, though.
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Nov 27, 2020 17:09
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Dont Touch ME posted:Bumping this derail to say nobody but gringos and gringo fetishizers have ever given a single solitary gently caress about latino/latina. Pan-latinism is one of single stupidest concepts that Americans are obsessed with for absolutely no reason. Remove the concept of Latin America from your brain. I went to school in CA and the term I would see around campus was Chicano. Like Chicano studies and clubs etc. I went back to see if schools still have that term and alot of the California schools now use Chicana/o along with one spotting of latinx. I think its people trying to have a term that means "not white" well kinda since hispanic is considered white. I had the census dude go over that with me. How ever I am gonna agree with you that lumping very different groups into the same monolithic blocks is stupid. Okay back to china can my aussie goons and goons from the far north tell me whats up with the chinese coming in with their money and buying up all the houses? I thought that was all above board because welll they are bring in money.
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Nov 27, 2020 18:08
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'white' was a category that was basically made that way over a couple hundred years also 'han chinese', but over a millenium
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Nov 27, 2020 18:11
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Dont Touch ME posted:Bumping this derail to say nobody but gringos and gringo fetishizers have ever given a single solitary gently caress about latino/latina. Pan-latinism is one of single stupidest concepts that Americans are obsessed with for absolutely no reason. Remove the concept of Latin America from your brain. It's because americans couch all their class division in racism, so if you're poor it's because you're black. Marginalised African - you're black. Marginalised Spaniard - you're black. Marginalised Irishman - you're black.
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Nov 27, 2020 18:13
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Ups_rail posted:How ever I am gonna agree with you that lumping very different groups into the same monolithic blocks is stupid. The thing is that it only makes sense as a construct to play into American racial science. There are a lot of people in "Latin" America who would otherwise be considered white or black in America. Trying to work a language relation into a physiological taxonomy is dumb. The mestizo populations in America needing an identity in our anglo racial science obsessed culture runs directly in opposition to the larger considerations. Nobody in "Latin" American countries uses latinx, and they never will. Hell, calling the wrong Brazilian any form of "latin" is a good way to get your rear end beat for daring to group them with Spanish speaking new worlders. It's all very well and good that we're seeking to take care of our own, but in the process of doing so I'm seeing a lot of Americans neglect the fact that this poo poo ends at the border. The whole thing is very much an American thing, and our friends down south tend to not like it when you force American (especially heavily anglo-influenced, which this is) culture on them.
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Nov 27, 2020 18:57
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Please talk about America in not the China thread
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Nov 27, 2020 19:33
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if this were the china thread we wouldnt be talking about hong kongers, mongolians, and uyghurs. this is clearly the ChinX thread
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Nov 27, 2020 19:44
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Vegetable posted:Please talk about America in not the China thread 您非常美丽. 您想跟我做爱吗?
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Nov 27, 2020 19:56
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America has been part of China for 3000 years, sonething something treasure fleet something something missile islands
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Nov 27, 2020 20:27
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wanna make a vietnamese anger call their country southern china wanna make a mongolian angery call their country northern china
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Nov 27, 2020 20:45
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Ups_rail posted:wanna make a vietnamese anger call their country southern china America: eastern China, or western China?
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Nov 27, 2020 21:24
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Pham Nuwen posted:Canada: eastern China, or western China? FTFY
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Nov 27, 2020 21:57
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latinx is unpronounceable in spanish
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Nov 27, 2020 23:24
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Whilst everyone is discussing "latin" America, I have a potentially racist question. I always thought Latin America was Central America. Mexico, Equador etc. What about southern South America? Or indeed central South America? Are Argentinans considered latinx? Hows about Uruguayans? etc.
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Nov 27, 2020 23:31
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BrigadierSensible posted:Whilst everyone is discussing "latin" America, I have a potentially racist question. They talked alot about South Central America in the 90s, then kinda stopped
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Nov 27, 2020 23:52
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BrigadierSensible posted:Whilst everyone is discussing "latin" America, I have a potentially racist question. Latin America has always included all Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries in the Americas for me. Feel like there's a case to include French Guiana too, but then we'd have to have a long talk about Quebec and no one wants to do that.
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Nov 28, 2020 00:52
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hakimashou posted:latinx is unpronounceable in spanish What's wrong with "latin", at least in English? Confusing for iron-age Italians? (I assume the people doing this are speaking English, if this in in a romance language then they'll have bigger problems than de-gendering one particular word)
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Nov 28, 2020 01:38
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So are "wet markets" as bad and as common in China as the media makes them out to be or are they sensationalized?
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Nov 28, 2020 01:41
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A beautiful world with beautiful places to visit
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Nov 28, 2020 01:44
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Dzhay posted:What's wrong with "latin", at least in English? Confusing for iron-age Italians? Putting X in stuff makes it look cool. I think X is used in non-gendered pronoun neologisms in english like "Xe" instead of "she/he" maybe? So it could be paralleling that. "Latino/a" still carries the binary 'male or female' implication I suppose. Anyway from knowing almost nothing about it, I get the impression that it is a word english speakers came up with to talk about spanish things in english.
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Nov 28, 2020 01:58
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punk rebel ecks posted:So are "wet markets" as bad and as common in China as the media makes them out to be or are they sensationalized? Yeah they are common and yeah they are bad and yeah, they are responsible for the wuhan coronavirus pandemic and probably also the first SARS.
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Nov 28, 2020 01:59
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Actually, it's LatinX ;-)
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Nov 28, 2020 02:00
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well what about the FlushX from final fantasy legend 3
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Nov 28, 2020 02:10
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hakimashou posted:
my impression was always that it was coined by queer hispanic folks that were trying to come up with something non-binary. whiteys def shouldn't be forcing anything on anyone, but i feel bad for any people that liked latinx as an identity for themselves seeing that term just become more grist for the culture war grind.
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Nov 28, 2020 02:10
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Dzhay posted:What's wrong with "latin", at least in English? Confusing for iron-age Italians? latino is an american spanish word, which is nice if you want to distinguish yourself from europeans who speak romance languages. spanish-speaking feminists do advocate for making more words gender-neutral, in the u.s. someone came up with latinx (apparently pronounced latine), some other places, they replace a/o with e or @.
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Nov 28, 2020 02:17
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Ballistic: Latinx vs. Sever
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punk rebel ecks posted:So are "wet markets" as bad and as common in China as the media makes them out to be or are they sensationalized?
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Nov 28, 2020 02:21
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No Pants posted:latino is an american spanish word, which is nice if you want to distinguish yourself from europeans who speak romance languages. spanish-speaking feminists do advocate for making more words gender-neutral, in the u.s. someone came up with latinx (apparently pronounced latine), some other places, they replace a/o with e or @. So like my earlier question is that gonna be pronounced like la-teen, or like la-tyne
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Being Latino myself, my perspective of it is that Latinx was a non-binary term that was put up by upper class Latino liberals, specifically in the LGBTQ community. Virtually zero working class Latinos use it, but don't feel too strongly of the words use. The fire and brimstone passion toward the word is mostly in the context of the American culture war. American liberals defend the word for being inclusive and sees everyone who disagrees as a bigot, while American conservatives see it as an example of bourgeois out of touch whites PC policing a demographic that they know nothing about, all while American leftists openly mock the word as white liberals pushing identity politics despite the fact the word originated among the Hispanic LGBTQ community that they should have some respect for. It's a Romance of the Three Kingdoms displaying the absolute worst of each side. It sort of reminds me when "cultural appropriation" gets brought up in the discussion.
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