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Xenomrph posted:Pillar of Autumn is the very first ship we see in the series, it was always dumb names. Next you are going to tell me the Culture names are bad. 
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And then you have the UNSC Say My Name which i love for how cheesy it is. I'm wondering if there should be a general thread for franchise tie-in fiction. Beyond Star Wars or 40K theres a lot of tie in novels and comics that probably couldn't support a thread on their own but might be decent as part of a general discussion zone
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Dec 25, 2020 03:15
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Jazerus posted:the problem with the names you made up, and similarly the actual names that the later halo writers created, is that they follow the form of "truth and reconciliation" without understanding it. the other covenant ships shouldn't be "virtue x and virtue y" because that was not actually the process used to create the name "truth and reconciliation". i guess when they decided the covenant were religious fanatics they kind of made it hard to extend the implicit theme of post-revolution justice since the revolution didn't actually happen until the end of halo 3 Carteret posted:Next you are going to tell me the Culture names are bad. I don’t know what the Culture is 
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Dec 25, 2020 03:27
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Xenomrph posted:Joke’s on you, all the names I made up are UNSC names. Or are they?? Culture novels and short stories by Iain M. Banks. Good stuff check em out. "The machine intelligences called Minds (and, as a consequence, the Culture starships that they inhabit) usually bear names that do a little more than just identify them. The Minds choose their own names, and thus they usually express something about a particular Mind's attitude, character or aims in their personal life. Warship names are similar in retaining the whimsical nature, though the humour tends to be more cynical and threatening." Samples Irregular Apocalypse No More Mr Nice Guy Nervous Energy Trade Surplus Little Rascal So Much For Subtlety Unfortunate Conflict Of Evidence Of Course I Still Love You Gunboat Diplomat Anticipation Of A New Lover's Arrival, The I Blame Your Mother
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Xenomrph posted:Pillar of Autumn is the very first ship we see in the series, it was always dumb names. See I can tell you're wrong because the ones you're coming up with are terrible. There's an art to it. Read Iain Banks!
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Dec 25, 2020 04:06
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One of my favorite Culture ship names is I SAID I'VE GOT A BIG STICK. The formatting is important.
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ScottyJSno posted:Culture novels and short stories by Iain M. Banks. Good stuff check em out. Oh, so like racehorse names.
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chitoryu12 posted:I read Black Spire recently and noticed that there was a really weird disconnect in the content where you could tell that the author was trying to put her own desires into the book. It's the big tie-in for Galaxy's Edge at Disney so it exists mostly to establish the storyline present in the park, like how the Resistance base got set up on Batuu and how Vi Moradi got Kylo Ren flying in personally, so a lot of the book is a huge marketing thing where she has to visit every store and talk about how all the named food items and cocktails are so amazing and you should totally try them (I do agree, Ronto Wraps are awesome). I live in Orlando, had Disney annual passes for the family before the pandemic hit, and loved going to Galaxy's Edge (and was there for opening day), but for some reason, I refuse to read Black Spire. It just seems like the most brazen attempt at, "THIS IS MARKETING" yet. I know that's not fair when I went all in on the Disney/Star Wars park experience. But I think it crossing over into the books like that really offended me, for some reason. Like I hated those quick moments in the Thrawn book when they went there, but at least there they were quick. A whole book about it rubs me the wrong way. Again, I know this isn't all that consistent of me.
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thrawn527 posted:I live in Orlando, had Disney annual passes for the family before the pandemic hit, and loved going to Galaxy's Edge (and was there for opening day), but for some reason, I refuse to read Black Spire. It just seems like the most brazen attempt at, "THIS IS MARKETING" yet. I know that's not fair when I went all in on the Disney/Star Wars park experience. But I think it crossing over into the books like that really offended me, for some reason. Like I hated those quick moments in the Thrawn book when they went there, but at least there they were quick. A whole book about it rubs me the wrong way. I think it's good as a concept. If you want to make the experience truly immersive, you want it to actually have details that matter to fans. Unfortunately, the way they went about this was apparently demanding that the book function mostly as product placement. It's about as subtle as a movie where every Sony product has to have the brand name clearly visible for a few seconds whenever the item is shown.
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Jazerus posted:halo lore is uniquely impenetrable because the names are all loving terrible and don't convey any narrative weight. everything has a really portentious sounding name even if it's totally inconsequential Bungie then doubled down on this for Destiny. Arcsquad12 posted:I'm wondering if there should be a general thread for franchise tie-in fiction. Beyond Star Wars or 40K theres a lot of tie in novels and comics that probably couldn't support a thread on their own but might be decent as part of a general discussion zone I would definitely be down for a thread like this.
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Dec 26, 2020 22:49
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Someone can do a Let's Read of the Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri novels, and we can debate the theological implications of the Doom books.
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Dec 26, 2020 23:08
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Super Bunnyhop's description of the Doom novels makes me want to read them and experience the demon slaying adventures of Mormon DoomGuy and DoomGirl. I'm no good at making threads, just talking within them about stuff. I wouldn't know where to start making a tie in fiction thread.
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cptn_dr posted:Someone can do a Let's Read of the Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri novels, and we can debate the theological implications of the Doom books. I actually read the first SMAC novel and remember thinking it wasn't as good as the Journey to Centauri novella. I also remember really enjoying the novelization of the Sierra strategy game Outpost 2: Divided Destiny, a game which I loved but which I have to imagine no one else remembers.
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Chairman Capone posted:I also remember really enjoying the novelization of the Sierra strategy game Outpost 2: Divided Destiny, a game which I loved but which I have to imagine no one else remembers. i must have read that novella a million times as a kid. i've always wanted a spiritual sequel to outpost 2 since it was pretty unique among RTS for its focus on building a functional colony first and fighting second if at all
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Dec 26, 2020 23:34
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Jazerus posted:i must have read that novella a million times as a kid. i've always wanted a spiritual sequel to outpost 2 since it was pretty unique among RTS for its focus on building a functional colony first and fighting second if at all Did you ever play the original Outpost? It's buggy as hell but it's entirely about building a functioning colony. Though also really difficult and there's no ability to win or even end the game outside of eventually dying, as the game was rushed so the promised endgame conditions weren't implemented. I do remember being really upset that Outpost 3 was promised but never ended up being made. Same with Space Quest VII.
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Dec 26, 2020 23:53
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Chairman Capone posted:Did you ever play the original Outpost? It's buggy as hell but it's entirely about building a functioning colony. Though also really difficult and there's no ability to win or even end the game outside of eventually dying, as the game was rushed so the promised endgame conditions weren't implemented. I played the poo poo out of the original Outpost, it had two endgame conditions and I remember them both being present in the version I played. You could exhaust the tech tree in one of two ways - either researching terraforming and making an atmosphere for your planet, or researching rocketry and launching a new colony ship.
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Maybe that was a later version than what I played. I think I had the game before I had internet so if there was ever a way to update it I definitely never got it. Or also maybe I just never got as far in the game as I thought. On a completely separate note given the response to Wonder Woman 84 I'm guessing it's just a matter of time before Lucasfilm announces that Patty Jenkins develops "schedule conflicts" and leaves Rogue Squadron.
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Holy poo poo I haven't thought about Outpost in decades. I can still hear the opening theme lol
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On the topic of Star Wars books, I just read Alan Dean Foster's fan outline for Episode IX that he wrote after watching and hating The Last Jedi, and... yikes: (You have to go down manually to the 1 May 2018 entry): https://www.alandeanfoster.com/version2.0/updatesframe.htm To be fair, there are a few things in it I like. Even Foster recognized that the logical thing to do was end it with a citizens' uprising on Coruscant. Also had some clear Dark Empire vibes, funnily enough. Having Snoke initially reveal himself as a clone to punk on Kylo thinking he was the poo poo for slicing him in half was also good, the Agent Smith-like Snoke clone army not so much. But the Rey storyline is so bad it's almost parody.
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Chairman Capone posted:On the topic of Star Wars books, I just read Alan Dean Foster's fan outline for Episode IX that he wrote after watching and hating The Last Jedi, and... yikes: Jenny Nicholson did a really good review of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aanyjLmB1Bs
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I sure am glad we didn't get an Episode IX that featured Snoke clones and clumsy retcons of TLJ! 
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Snoke clone is fun to say, though.
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The problem is we know it would be pronounced Snooke.
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My single favorite line from that thing is "But the real battle is between him and Snoke. Or rather, Snokes." There's something about pluralizing Snoke that's just hilarious.
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Chairman Capone posted:The problem is we know it would be pronounced Snooke. Episode IX: The Jersey Shore
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Chairman Capone posted:The problem is we know it would be pronounced Snooke. My recommendation is "Snookums"
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Jazerus posted:halo lore is uniquely impenetrable because the names are all loving terrible and don't convey any narrative weight. everything has a really portentious sounding name even if it's totally inconsequential You're posting this in the star wars thread!!!!!!! I can come up with star wars names right now. Bugg Flubb. Marko Strank. Fudd Rucker.
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Arcsquad12 posted:And then you have the UNSC Say My Name which i love for how cheesy it is. Instead let's just make this thread the combination star wars books thread and halo books thread, imho.
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George Kansas posted:Instead let's just make this thread the combination star wars books thread and halo books thread, imho. But then how could we talk about the Doom novels or the Borderlands and Star Trek books.
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George Kansas posted:You're posting this in the star wars thread!!!!!!! star wars names are just stupid, not impenetrable. you're telling me you wouldn't remember every detail of the adventures of fudd rucker, bounty hunter
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Arcsquad12 posted:But then how could we talk about the Doom novels or the Borderlands and Star Trek books. I'm trying to find a coherent rule I could selfishly propose here that would allow me to read up on hot takes and gossip for the series I do like (star wars, halo, mass effect) and not the ones I dislike (warhammer and warcraft, mostly) I guess for me this is just sci-fi vs. fantasy. I like bad licensed sci-fi a lot more than I like bad licensed fantasy. Jazerus posted:star wars names are just stupid, not impenetrable. you're telling me you wouldn't remember every detail of the adventures of fudd rucker, bounty hunter Ok, you're right, but also, the forerunners are loving cool
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George Kansas posted:I guess for me this is just sci-fi vs. fantasy. I like bad licensed sci-fi a lot more than I like bad licensed fantasy. You don't want to read about the nineteenth time Drizzt survived impossible odds because he was a sexy drow?
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Jazerus posted:star wars names are just stupid, not impenetrable. you're telling me you wouldn't remember every detail of the adventures of fudd rucker, bounty hunter Only if Fudd’s brother Frostee is also involved in the adventures.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ViKvHkNyqE
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Mods please change my name to Jimmy Scrambles thank you.
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George Kansas posted:Instead let's just make this thread the combination star wars books thread and halo books thread, imho. Uh, let's not. I mean, talk about what you want, but I'm not putting Halo in the OP, that's for sure. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Dec 28, 2020 |
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I'll start working on a thread OP when I get home. Not much I can do from a phone.
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Just so we’re clear, I made a typo earlier. I’m not putting Halo in the OP here. I’ve never read any Halo books, and I don’t really see a reason to link Halo and Star Wars books. But talk about them in here all you want, whatever floats your boat.
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Speaking of Star Wars book, when do the High Republic books come out? I’ll need something to tide me over since Mando finished. Also, cheers to everyone for the Farlander responses. I opened up Star Wars Squadrons for Christmas and one of the name randomized options was Kenyan Farlander.
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VaultAggie posted:Speaking of Star Wars book, when do the High Republic books come out? I’ll need something to tide me over since Mando finished. Next week, actually.
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