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Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.
Alright, pretty sure Sub Rosa isn't scum, think one of Tommunist/RF are scum.

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Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Alright, Opop and RF, if you had to find a scum on the turbo of Hal, and there almost surely was scum on the turbo of Hal, who would you pick?

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


I don’t think it’s Sub Rosa either.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

sandnavyguy posted:

##vote Yami

Lol, after going like "wish I was able to take part in the turbo" in pinball this is suddenly scummy.

Also not pointing out that tommu broke the sacred turbo rules by hammering after hal spoke.

Tommu is scum confirmed and sng is probably his scumbo.


##vote Tommu for breaking the sacred turbo rules.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
Ya u got me

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Yami why not consider RF? Why drat SNG?

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Sandwolf posted:

Alright, Opop and RF, if you had to find a scum on the turbo of Hal, and there almost surely was scum on the turbo of Hal, who would you pick?

Well, I don't want to speak for Opop, but I don't love how Yami is kind of non committal about turbos pre-game and then goes all in on it immediately once the game starts, that is a might suspicious.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Sandwolf posted:

Yami why not consider RF? Why drat SNG?

Because!

sandnavyguy posted:

Well we finally had a turbo, but a game this size is not one I’d be happy to be on. Odds way too low.

Anyway, not only was there no jokephase, but I didn’t even get to post D1.

Vote Yami


For stealing jokephase.

This is a lovely "kicking things off" vote which is an easily redactable half-joke vote on the person that started the turbo. Aka the person that is really easy to pile votes on.

So pulling that kind of vote in that situation stinks.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Retro Futurist posted:

Well, I don't want to speak for Opop, but I don't love how Yami is kind of non committal about turbos pre-game and then goes all in on it immediately once the game starts, that is a might suspicious.

What about this then, Yami?

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Meh actually the sng vote for ‘stealing jokephase’ is kinda weak

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Sandwolf posted:

Alright, Opop and RF, if you had to find a scum on the turbo of Hal, and there almost surely was scum on the turbo of Hal, who would you pick?

Let’s pretend I correctly phrased this and addressed it at RF and Tommu

Tommu who scum

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

It is very weak, but I only have a page to go on and half the page is votes on Hal and signups :p

Yami not going for the OMGUS when there’s a fairly clear opening gives me a bit of pause though.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


I kind of assumed SNG's was a joke vote

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Sub Rosa posted:

So tell me what was happening right then?


So here we are, two town dead, with minimal posts from over half the living to go on. Please tell me more about how this is a +EV town move.

Because it's absurdly easy to swing the vote to a townie d1 anyway. A turbo forces people to react, which is exactly what you want to do as soon as possible, force scum to post their reactions/opinions.

Consider tommu's hammer for example.

Hal Insandenza posted:

wow, just wow


Tommunist posted:

##vote hal

These posts are roughly 5 minutes apart, so it's not like Tommu missed Hal's last post.

Tommu knew exactly what he was doing, hammering hal at the time. He deliberately cut the conversation short.

You have to understand, half of the goal of a turbo isn't the destination, but the journey. It forces day 1 content that people can analyze.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Sandwolf posted:

What about this then, Yami?

Point me to the post where I am non-committal about turbos pregame.

Because it doesn't exist.

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Retro Futurist posted:

I kind of assumed SNG's was a joke vote

Pretty much yes

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
So RF is actually kinda talking out of their rear end there.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Yami Fenrir posted:

This game is gonna be a clusterfuck of murder schemes isn't it?

Just like the source material intended.

This just feels wishy washy to me when Amni is trying to recruit people to turbo.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


sandnavyguy posted:

Pretty much yes

Wait, it was or it wasn't? Because you've defended it a couple times now.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Retro Futurist posted:

This just feels wishy washy to me when Amni is trying to recruit people to turbo.

That's a stretch so long the rubbers's gonna hit you in the face my man.

Also lol at analyzing pre game posts for wishy-washyness.

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Retro Futurist posted:

Wait, it was or it wasn't? Because you've defended it a couple times now.

No, the vote itself was a joke, with a little barbs (voting Yami, who started the turbo) built in to strike up game conversation.

sandnavyguy posted:

It is very weak, but I only have a page to go on and half the page is votes on Hal and signups :p

Yami not going for the OMGUS when there’s a fairly clear opening gives me a bit of pause though.

This is my joking answer to why I did it, but the second half is genuine. That Yami correctly called out the vote as lovely/weak, yet did not OMGUs cause she’s casing others, gives me pause and makes me think maybe they are leaning town.

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.
...but your vote is still on them.

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.
Would vote SnG.

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Amnistar posted:

...but your vote is still on them.

Well yes I’m not going to *immediately* unvote that sort of removes anything we can gather from other people voting, right? I assume we aren’t gonna turbo twice in a row.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

sandnavyguy posted:

Well yes I’m not going to *immediately* unvote that sort of removes anything we can gather from other people voting, right? I assume we aren’t gonna turbo twice in a row.

"Oh I'm not really voting Yami, but I'll leave this vote on Yami."

Uhm.

SNG.

Wtf?

If you're posting this kinda poo poo then having the vote on loses all meaning and just makes you look mad scummy.

Amnistar
Nov 6, 2008

I am a wizard, not a poet.

sandnavyguy posted:

Well yes I’m not going to *immediately* unvote that sort of removes anything we can gather from other people voting, right? I assume we aren’t gonna turbo twice in a row.

....do you think yami is scum or not?

Because yout words are saying no, but your actions are saying yes

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
##unvote

Still think the way tommu hammered is scummy but kinda preferring one of SNG/RF here for now.

Just have to figure out which one first. SNG is steadily rising because holy poo poo this behavior is sketchy as helllllll

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
Think I'mma just wait for people to check in first tho, like bif and whatnot

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Alright firstly:

##unvote

Yami is obviously not in any danger, but I was hoping someone would jump on with a second vote and actually try and push a case we could dissect later. That did not occur.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
Nvm I am a dumbass, I thought bif was a player but they're reserves.

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




Yami Fenrir posted:


You have to understand, half of the goal of a turbo isn't the destination, but the journey. It forces day 1 content that people can analyze.

We have precious little content to analyze!

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Bif isn’t playing though?

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Nvm addressed.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


##vote RF

We got ‘im folks

sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Sub Rosa posted:

We have precious little content to analyze!

I disagree here, we can look at the pacing and order of the votes, which were joking or just for turbo, and which were opportunistic

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


I agree Tommu’s hammer was bad and his not responding to me is super scummy (go to bed Tommu) but RF is more likely to be nefarious here I think

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Sub Rosa posted:

We have precious little content to analyze!

You know if you spent time looking at people instead of complaining about the turbo and how we have no content, maybe you'd see the content

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
I'm a bit wary of voting so early but I think RF is a good pick.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Yami Fenrir posted:

I'm a bit wary of voting so early but I think RF is a good pick.

With only 9 to hammer that is

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sandnavyguy
Sep 12, 2015

Yami Fenrir posted:

With only 9 to hammer that is

It’s 4 to hammer though?

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