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Bi-la kaifa
Feb 4, 2011

Space maggots.

I love my Okatsune pruning shears. Definitely worth the extra cost.

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mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
me: i should try to use less electricity this year

also me: HAHA gently caress YOU CANADIAN WINTER YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



I wish seedless strawberries and raspberries were a thing.

I love the flavors of both but I HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE seeds

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
i guess i could understand with raspberries but i've never found strawberries to be much of an issue in terms of texture.

this container of plants are from the seeds i saved from a storebought strawberry (we get greenhouse strawberries here in ontario in around february) because this specific strawberry tasted noticeably better than any of the rest in the clamshell package. like it was a huge difference.

and i think that much bred true at least, because this thing smells absurdly fragrant. it's like a strong flower mixed with a super ripe strawberry.

Blakkout
Aug 24, 2006

No thought was put into this.
My realtor gave me a "table top Christmas tree." It's a Dwarf Alberta Spruce in a 1 gallon pot, and the instructions say that after the holidays you can put the tree outside to go dormant if you want to plant it outside in the spring. I'm zone 4 up in Minnesota. I've killed a lot of stuff that's "hardy" for this zone by trying to make it winter over in a containers outside.

Does anyone had any good tips for success here? How long of a dormancy period does a potted evergreen need? Would simply storing it in my detached unheated garage that stays only a few degrees warmer than the outside temp work well?

Earth
Nov 6, 2009
I WOULD RATHER INSERT A $20 LEGO SET'S WORTH OF PLASTIC BRICKS INTO MY URETHRA THAN STOP TALKING ABOUT BEING A SCALPER.
College Slice

Blakkout posted:

My realtor gave me a "table top Christmas tree." It's a Dwarf Alberta Spruce in a 1 gallon pot, and the instructions say that after the holidays you can put the tree outside to go dormant if you want to plant it outside in the spring. I'm zone 4 up in Minnesota. I've killed a lot of stuff that's "hardy" for this zone by trying to make it winter over in a containers outside.

Does anyone had any good tips for success here? How long of a dormancy period does a potted evergreen need? Would simply storing it in my detached unheated garage that stays only a few degrees warmer than the outside temp work well?

Why can't you just leave it inside and plant it after last frost? Does it have to go dormant?

Blakkout
Aug 24, 2006

No thought was put into this.
The (super vague) directions say it has to go dormant to survive a planting.

Oil of Paris
Feb 13, 2004

100% DIRTY

Nap Ghost
Yeah put it in the garage as long as there’s a little bit of light, that will get it cold enough for it to realize it needs to chill out for awhile. Much safer than zone 4 outside @__@

I also had a dream last night I had an actually good set of pruning shears and they were badass, maybe I’ll buy a late Xmas present

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
not bad for ontario winter.







didn't quite nail the pollination so it grew a bit askew, but it's still kind of amazing. not very sweet and acidic, in a good way, as it wasn't at all bland. suuuuuper perfumey, very very floral. really excited to see where it'll go from here.

Earth
Nov 6, 2009
I WOULD RATHER INSERT A $20 LEGO SET'S WORTH OF PLASTIC BRICKS INTO MY URETHRA THAN STOP TALKING ABOUT BEING A SCALPER.
College Slice

Blakkout posted:

The (super vague) directions say it has to go dormant to survive a planting.

Interesting to learn. I obviously don't know much about trees.

Oil of Paris posted:

Yeah put it in the garage as long as there’s a little bit of light, that will get it cold enough for it to realize it needs to chill out for awhile. Much safer than zone 4 outside @__@

I also had a dream last night I had an actually good set of pruning shears and they were badass, maybe I’ll buy a late Xmas present

Also good to know. Does that work with some perennial flowers that need overwintering in the lower zones? Like dahlias for example? I don't want to bring them into the house, but I could bring them into the garage.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Hey, remember when I posted a few months back about identifying a tree that turned out to be Chinaberry and we had to have it removed because our dumb dog wouldn't stop eating them and getting really sick despite them not supposed to taste good to dogs?

We got it removed and it's been great for the last few months, but the dog was sick again last night. Turns out she dug probably 10 inches down into the yard to a 4-5 inch diameter root leftover from the tree and started eating it. What in the hell do I do now. Dig up my whole yard and remove all the old roots?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

D-Pad posted:

Hey, remember when I posted a few months back about identifying a tree that turned out to be Chinaberry and we had to have it removed because our dumb dog wouldn't stop eating them and getting really sick despite them not supposed to taste good to dogs?

We got it removed and it's been great for the last few months, but the dog was sick again last night. Turns out she dug probably 10 inches down into the yard to a 4-5 inch diameter root leftover from the tree and started eating it. What in the hell do I do now. Dig up my whole yard and remove all the old roots?

drat, that dog’s gotta get her fix huh

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Maybe you could limit the dog to a run that’s free of the perilous plant.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Platystemon posted:

Maybe you could limit the dog to a run that’s free of the perilous plant.

Our yard is already super small and in order to do that and have it away from the old tree roots the limited run would be cut off from the porch/backdoor. Would be incredibly annoying having to escort her every single time she wanted outside or needed to use the bathroom. None of the roots are that accessible in a short amount of time so it just means I need to keep a closer eye on her. Its manageable, I was more bitching and laughing at the dumbness of my dog that is determined to poison herself.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

D-Pad posted:

I was more bitching and laughing at the dumbness of my dog that is determined to poison herself.

we laugh but it sounds like basically dog whiskey

Oil of Paris
Feb 13, 2004

100% DIRTY

Nap Ghost
Lol at that dog and its insatiable lust for the forbidden fruit

Earth posted:

Also good to know. Does that work with some perennial flowers that need overwintering in the lower zones? Like dahlias for example? I don't want to bring them into the house, but I could bring them into the garage.

Yes exactly, you just dig up the bulbs after the first frost and store them in a cool, dry area where they won’t mold, plant next spring

Earth
Nov 6, 2009
I WOULD RATHER INSERT A $20 LEGO SET'S WORTH OF PLASTIC BRICKS INTO MY URETHRA THAN STOP TALKING ABOUT BEING A SCALPER.
College Slice

Oil of Paris posted:

Lol at that dog and its insatiable lust for the forbidden fruit


Yes exactly, you just dig up the bulbs after the first frost and store them in a cool, dry area where they won’t mold, plant next spring

Could I just leave them in a pot and move the pot to the garage? I'm in zone 6 and winters are usually pretty mild.

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Earth posted:

Could I just leave them in a pot and move the pot to the garage? I'm in zone 6 and winters are usually pretty mild.

The danger when you put them in a warm place with no sun is that they're going to want to rot if there's any moisture. You probably don't want to leave them in the pots—people usually dig them up, dry them out, and then put them in bags.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

Wallet posted:

The danger when you put them in a warm place with no sun is that they're going to want to rot if there's any moisture. You probably don't want to leave them in the pots—people usually dig them up, dry them out, and then put them in bags.

Even in zone 8 my neighbor covers his dahlia beds to keep the bulbs from being oversaturated in the winter when we get constant rain. No worry about the freeze for us, but sitting in water all winter will make them decompose.

If you have wood plane shavings or larger wood chips I've used that the last couple years with bulbs that I've had to dig out to keep the moisture away and keep plenty of airflow and that worked really well too. They were just closed up loosely in a cardboard box. Paper bag does a similar thing too depending on how many you have to dig up.

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016


Not a Dickman, just a shape
Now look here m8

Ragtime All The Time
Apr 6, 2011




Got a carnivorous plant question: I was reading the moss page here https://www.carnivorousplants.org/grow/SoilsWaterLight/Sphagnum and noticed this sentence:

"Probably the most insidious and most common moss Ceratodon purpureus is called red roof moss. You do not want it but chances are it is in most of your carnivore pots."

My CP's tend to grow this fairly well and I've found it to be a visually attractive moss. Does any one know why this is noted as being a negative species?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
I have my own carnivorous plant question: I live in New England and rent and would love some carnivorous plants. I can't really keep any/many outdoor ones myself, but I plan to help my dad build a small pond+bog filter this summer at his house and my plan is to order some compatible ones for him to plant then. So far so good right? Will they be able to tolerate CT winters or will they need to be brought into a garage?

Second question: it's January but my plant store's got a nice collection of small pitcher plants and sundews for sale. I take it these are tropical or acclimated? How well do these guys do indoors, really? I know that with flytraps (which are exclusively North American) you want to keep them cool and dormant in the winter, and many people recommend a cold windowsill or attached garage. Do tropicals/pitchers/etc need to go dormant too? Carnivorous plants and orchids are like my two next big plant-dad rubicons. Maybe getting a mangrove or two as well, idk.

Bloody Cat Farm
Oct 20, 2010

I can smell your pussy, Clarice.

Ok Comboomer posted:

I have my own carnivorous plant question: I live in New England and rent and would love some carnivorous plants. I can't really keep any/many outdoor ones myself, but I plan to help my dad build a small pond+bog filter this summer at his house and my plan is to order some compatible ones for him to plant then. So far so good right? Will they be able to tolerate CT winters or will they need to be brought into a garage?

There are pitcher plants that grow in New England in bogs. I used to go to the Hawley Bog in Mass all the time and they had a ton. As long as you get the correct type, they should be fine.

Bloody Cat Farm
Oct 20, 2010

I can smell your pussy, Clarice.
On a side note: if you have time to visit that area, definitely go. The bog has a lot of interesting plant life. It’s also near Bear Swamp State Forest. In the spring there are so many beautiful native wild flowers there.

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

Ok Comboomer posted:

I have my own carnivorous plant question: I live in New England and rent and would love some carnivorous plants. I can't really keep any/many outdoor ones myself, but I plan to help my dad build a small pond+bog filter this summer at his house and my plan is to order some compatible ones for him to plant then. So far so good right? Will they be able to tolerate CT winters or will they need to be brought into a garage?

Second question: it's January but my plant store's got a nice collection of small pitcher plants and sundews for sale. I take it these are tropical or acclimated? How well do these guys do indoors, really? I know that with flytraps (which are exclusively North American) you want to keep them cool and dormant in the winter, and many people recommend a cold windowsill or attached garage. Do tropicals/pitchers/etc need to go dormant too? Carnivorous plants and orchids are like my two next big plant-dad rubicons. Maybe getting a mangrove or two as well, idk.

I grow a lot of drosera and some other small carnivores indoors at regular room humidity and with a grow light to help through winter and a heat mat they do great - half of mine are in bloom right now. Happy to share some pics and direction on my simple bog setup if you'd be interested. Speaking of, please enjoy these tiny bunnies (Utricularia sandersonii)

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
holy poo poo wash your hands after repotting euphorbias

my god

I got like a microscopic amount of sap in my eye last night

worst loving night ever, now I'm still super sore and light sensitive, but I'm gonna be ok

I gotta go get an eyepatch before my zoom meeting tho

B33rChiller
Aug 18, 2011




Ok Comboomer posted:

holy poo poo wash your hands after repotting euphorbias

my god

I got like a microscopic amount of sap in my eye last night

worst loving night ever, now I'm still super sore and light sensitive, but I'm gonna be ok

I gotta go get an eyepatch before my zoom meeting tho

Wow. Thanks for the tip. I had no idea. Same goes for the sap of ficus and monstera, in case anyone is unaware. Any time I've had the sap hit my skin it would burn if not washed off pretty quickly.

relatedly, my younger brother has a strange allergy to aloe. Any time he gets a bit on his skin, it starts burning like crazy, and gets super red inflamed. I've seen him test a new sunscreen with a little touch on the back of his hand, and he was running to the sink hollering within 5 seconds. He showed me his hand after, and he had a bright red raised circle where he got it on him. "Yep, it has aloe in it" (he's a dumbass and the ingredients listed "aloe barbadensis". If he took a second to read, he could save a lot of pain)

B33rChiller fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jan 13, 2021

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Ok Comboomer posted:

holy poo poo wash your hands after repotting euphorbias

I got some on my skin repotting some ingens that poked each other while I was putting them in place and it made my skin burn for hours. I can only imagine it in your eyes.

Wallet fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jan 13, 2021

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
It’s all good, mostly. Predominantly photosensitive at this point (which makes computer use a real bitch)

I saw some medical images of people who’d gotten enough in their eyes to have it gently caress them up for 2+ weeks and those looked....well, they looked like Edo Period depictions of Japanese demons, definitely don’t do that

I’ll have my revenge on euphorbiakind, and on god, yet. Euphorbias graft incredibly easily to one another (hence the popularity and current ubiquity of crested “coral cactus” euphorbia lactea and ammak) and I just saw a video of a lady with a beautifulhorrific chimera monster of like seven different species and varietals all grafted together like the succulent equivalent of a patchwork Long Furby. I must make one.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
That means I gotta buy a third crested for material because I ain’t cutting up either of the two perfect babies I have at home.....guys I have 33 individual Euphorbia plants across four or maybe five species, I have a problem.

I don’t even have all the ones I want yet. I still gotta get some trigona rubras of my own (prolly harvest some branches from the big one I got my mom, as mentioned before), some variegated ammak, some variegated trigona, and some variegated white dragon bones lactea, and then you may bury me with them all.



And then there’s the really big stuff for homeowners like triangularis, ingens, and so forth

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
I love my little euphorbia but for some reason my cat desperately wants to eat it. She enjoys chewing on cactus and getting stabbed in the mouth; nearly killed one of our tall skinny ones by chewing on it. You'd think the taste would deter her, if not the spines.

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Ok Comboomer posted:

That means I gotta buy a third crested for material because I ain’t cutting up either of the two perfect babies I have at home.....guys I have 33 individual Euphorbia plants across four or maybe five species, I have a problem.

I have a strict one pot per genus rule for indoor plants (though some of the pots have three or four species in them) so I only have the ingens indoors. There's some nice ones that are cool with being cold though: I planted four or five varieties in the garden last year that all seem to be doing well even with it snowing here in zone 6. I think the myrsinites is the only one that's succulent though—I'm hoping they'll fill out next year.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Wallet posted:

I have a strict one pot per genus rule for indoor plants (though some of the pots have three or four species in them) so I only have the ingens indoors. There's some nice ones that are cool with being cold though: I planted four or five varieties in the garden last year that all seem to be doing well even with it snowing here in zone 6. I think the myrsinites is the only one that's succulent though—I'm hoping they'll fill out next year.

I’m in New England, every euphorbia I’ve had that got right cold immediately died and turned to jelly

Also lmao at “one pot per genus” I have like 90 pots, though most are 4” or smaller

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Ok Comboomer posted:

I’m in New England, every euphorbia I’ve had that got right cold immediately died and turned to jelly
I'm also in New England—what zone?

All of the ones in my garden currently are evergreen—it was snowing two days ago and they all look reasonably contented other than the weight of the snow crushing a few branches:
Euphorbia myrsinites (hardy to zone 5)
Euphorbia amygdaloides var. robbiae (zones 6-9)
Euphorbia nothowlee (zones 6-9)
Euphorbia x martinii 'Ascot Rainbow' (zones 6-11)

Ok Comboomer posted:

Also lmao at “one pot per genus” I have like 90 pots, though most are 4” or smaller
That's pretty much why I have the rule, to keep my house from turning into one undulating mass of plant-flesh. Most of the pots are 8" or larger, though.

Wallet fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Jan 15, 2021

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Wallet posted:

I'm also in New England—what zone?

All of the ones in my garden currently are evergreen—it was snowing two days ago and they all look reasonably contented other than the weight of the snow crushing a few branches:
Euphorbia myrsinites (hardy to zone 5)
Euphorbia amygdaloides var. robbiae (zones 6-9)
Euphorbia nothowlee (zones 6-9)
Euphorbia x martinii 'Ascot Rainbow' (zones 6-11)

That's pretty much why I have the rule, to keep my house from turning into one undulating mass of plant-flesh. Most of the pots are 8" or larger, though.

yeah, well...I used Covid as an excuse to turn my living room into a grass-type gym

Also, I see our disconnect—you’ve got some lovely lovely wood spurges outside (would love some when I have a yard) but I’m talking about succulent euphorbias: E. trigona, E. lactea, E. ammak, and E. loricata

Euphorbiaceae is a big, diverse bunch- including spurges, a variety of cactus-like succulent trees, crotons, poinsettias, and so forth. Really cool lineage of plants.

Wallet
Jun 19, 2006

Ok Comboomer posted:

Euphorbiaceae is a big, diverse bunch- including spurges, a variety of cactus-like succulent trees, crotons, poinsettias, and so forth. Really cool lineage of plants.

That's the best part about them. Myrsinites is a legit succulent, though. I don't think any of the other succulent varieties would be chill outside in New England. I think half of the parentage of x martini might be too?

Wallet fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Jan 16, 2021

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

I just started my first terrariae in the fall. Don't really know what I'm doing, but I have acess to a lot of old glass bottles that was used for museum specimens.



This has from bottom to top: leca balls (clay balls), sphagnum moss, potting soil. The plants are two kinds of wild moss and an Adianthum fern. The lid is not hermetically sealed.

What I'm mostly looking for is advice on how to set up a good terrarium that is mostly self-regulating, but not necessarily the "close and seal for 30 years" kind.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
do you mean terraria-as in like a bioactive enclosure or do you mean “terraria”-as in a fairy garden or little glass box with some plants in it?

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Small enclosures that mostly take care of themselves.

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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Orchid goons: terra cotta or slotted plastic? This is for a basic Trader Joe’s phalaenopsis

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