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dreamless
Dec 18, 2013



betaraywil posted:

gently caress me, who was it who was running for president or something else and told the fun story about how they bought an entire case of canned soup the day after their wedding, and their horrified wife made them return it immediately because it was too much soup? It was one of the forgettable democratic whites. Was it Hickenlooper or something?

Is the story more or less fun if it's Ted Cruz?

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Rea
Apr 5, 2011

Komi-san won.

betaraywil posted:

gently caress me, who was it who was running for president or something else and told the fun story about how they bought an entire case of canned soup the day after their wedding, and their horrified wife made them return it immediately because it was too much soup? It was one of the forgettable democratic whites. Was it Hickenlooper or something?

It was Ted Cruz in the 2016 GOP primary.

betaraywil
Dec 30, 2006

Gather the wind
Though the wind won't help you fly at all

dreamless posted:

Is the story more or less fun if it's Ted Cruz?

Less fun and more upsetting, certainly.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Ben MAD

Ben Garrison posted:

JOKE YAPPER FAKE NEWS HACK

CNN’s Jake Tapper really stuck his foot in his mouth when he insulted Florida’s Republican Representative, Brian Mast.

Tapper questioned his patriotism after Mast supported an effort to look into the election fraud. Jake said something about Mast fighting for Democracy in Afghanistan and then added “Although I don’t know about his commitment to it here in the United States.”

Tapper was wrong on so many levels with that statement. We’re not in Afghanistan to bring them Democracy. We are still there for geopolitical reasons, as well as to protect the opium fields for CIA drug runners. Secondly, America is a Republic, not a Democracy, which has become the Democrats’ code word for ’socialism.’ Thirdly, to question a well-decorated military man’s patriotism after he lost his legs in service of his country is deeply insulting to us all.

It probably shouldn’t be surprising, though. Tapper loves to insult those who aren’t aligned with his own network echo chamber.

Along with the ADL, he helped make sure I was disinvited from the White House media summit back in 2018. He has repeatedly stated on Twitter that I’ve drawn ‘anti-Semitic’ cartoons. This is a blatant lie. I’ve never drawn an anti-Semitic cartoon—ever. It’s not anti-Semitic to criticize central bankers and globalist corporations having an influence on our politics. Tapper rakes in $4 million per year toadying to his corporate masters.

We all know whose interests he serves as he sports a very concerned expression while on air.

It’s a good thing for Tapper that he is able to get fantastically richer by means of telling lies. He would never be able to make a living through cartooning…because he’s terrible at it.
He’s still mad that he was considered too embarrassing to be seen with Trump lol

Raised By Birds
May 5, 2013

Pants Donkey posted:

Ben MAD

He’s still mad that he was considered too embarrassing to be seen with Trump lol

Calling someone who doesn't make cartoons by trade a "failed cartoonist" just so he could try to score a point on him is wonderfully petty.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
"Questioning well-decorated veterans is insulting." Hey Ben, what are your feelings on John McCain?

quote:

He would never be able to make a living through cartooning…because he’s terrible at it.

Ben, if being good at political cartooning was required to make a living through it, you would be on the streets, as well as Gary McCoy, Bob Gorrell, and AF Branco.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Raised By Birds posted:

I don't think the original's been posted here yet.




+1 to his "person transformed into object" counter.

Also lol at calling Pelosi a Nazi and in the very next breath calling her Stalin.

Ok so he's admitting Trump lost a democratic election then and pivoting to "this is why democracy is bad, you don't let the MOB pick the king!"

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Raised By Birds posted:

Calling someone who doesn't make cartoons by trade a "failed cartoonist" just so he could try to score a point on him is wonderfully petty.

I guess a failed neurosurgeon would say that :rolleyes:

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

didn't anyone tell Ben that bronze stars and purple hearts don't mean anything, they just hand those out



Political Cartoons 2021: FAILED \_o_/ CARTOONIST

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

betaraywil posted:

gently caress me, who was it who was running for president or something else and told the fun story about how they bought an entire case of canned soup the day after their wedding, and their horrified wife made them return it immediately because it was too much soup? It was one of the forgettable democratic whites. Was it Hickenlooper or something?

it was 2020 and future 2024 GOP primary candidate Ted Cruz

quote:

When Ted and Heidi Cruz returned from a honeymoon in the Caribbean, Ted went to the store by himself. When Ted arrived home, Heidi was surprised to discover that he had purchased 100 cans of Campbell's Chunky Soup.

"Different kinds," Ted Cruz said. "Some chicken, some beef, you know. ..."

The next morning Heidi Cruz woke up before her husband, drove to the store and returned the soup. She called her mother, who asked if she planned to cook. Heidi said both she and Ted are terrible cooks. So she promised to go back and re-buy the soup.

Apparently Ted Cruz still likes soup. In a "25 things you don't know about me" with US Weekly, Cruz wrote, "When I’m away from the family, in Washington, D.C., my dinner is a can of soup. I have dozens in the pantry."

i wish this was more notable but the whole story reads exactly like something that a dude who doesn't know how to cook would do

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


These last couple of Garrisons are just kind of sad and pathetic, even by his standards. None of the "TRUMP IS GONNA LOCK UP THE DEEP STATE, STORM'S COMIN Y'ALL :smugdon:" anymore, just "Why are they being so mean??? :qq:"

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

Not that in this case it was particularly in question, but you can always tell a lot about a person based on how hard they push that "America's a republic, not a democracy" angle.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
Especially when they simultaneously insist that Donald Trump was the democratically elected president and therefore should not be opposed, and that he actually also won the popular vote in 2020 and should remain president regardless of the rules and systems in place.

It's almost as if getting the desired result overrides whatever principles he claims to hold!

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment
Can someone post Mr. Garrission's shithole comic and accompanying rant?

Preferably properly :nsfw: tagged and spoilered because nobody with a soul deserves that kind of poo poo popping up on them out of nowhere.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Moon Slayer posted:

Not that in this case it was particularly in question, but you can always tell a lot about a person based on how hard they push that "America's a republic, not a democracy" angle.

I've been seeing that an awful lot from the right wing.

What do they mean by it? Is it literally "we want a dictatorship" now? Or do they just take issue with the specific meaning of the word democracy

Regardless, how to they square it with what ~the founders~ said?

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


Pants Donkey posted:

Ben MAD

He’s still mad that he was considered too embarrassing to be seen with Trump lol

Hey, Ben. Mast is a piece of poo poo and the bomb that took his legs should’ve taken the rest of him too.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I've been seeing that an awful lot from the right wing.

What do they mean by it? Is it literally "we want a dictatorship" now? Or do they just take issue with the specific meaning of the word democracy

Regardless, how to they square it with what ~the founders~ said?

It's a fact that I think is technically true if you want to use the precise political science terms to describe the US, but yeah what they really mean by it is "I only want votes from white REAL AMERICANS to count."

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Steve Bell on teething problems for fisheries post-Brexit – Scottish fishing crews have threatened to dump rotten shellfish outside UK parliament after deliveries to the EU were blocked by post-Brexit red tape"

Telegraph:

Vaccine supply is holding back jabs programme, says Matt Hancock

Matt:

Footballers criticised as 'brainless' for hugging in goal celebrations amid Covid

Independent:


Times:


Evening Standard:

UK weather: snow and ice warnings issued for Scotland and parts of England

Mail:
PAUL THOMAS on... a new Covid strain

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I've been seeing that an awful lot from the right wing.

What do they mean by it? Is it literally "we want a dictatorship" now? Or do they just take issue with the specific meaning of the word democracy

Regardless, how to they square it with what ~the founders~ said?

Republic => Republican Party => The good guys
Democracy => DemocRAT Party => The bad guys

I don't think it goes beyond thinking that some deep truth is behind that. Not knowing what truth exactly, just thinking that there must be.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I've been seeing that an awful lot from the right wing.

What do they mean by it? Is it literally "we want a dictatorship" now? Or do they just take issue with the specific meaning of the word democracy

Regardless, how to they square it with what ~the founders~ said?

It's a convenient excuse to not engage with criticisms of the electoral college or of other anti-majoritarian institutions like the Senate. In practice, though it's just a beard for "I want My Side to win and I don't care about democratic principles at any level." People saying this arn't actually interested in specific meanings or debating the exact form a representative democracy should take.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Flipperwaldt posted:

Republic => Republican Party => The good guys
Democracy => DemocRAT Party => The bad guys

:aaa:

My eyes are open

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009



Ban Garrison posted:

Its not anti-Semitic to criticize central bankers and globalist corporations having an influence on our politics.

:thunk:

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I've been seeing that an awful lot from the right wing.

What do they mean by it? Is it literally "we want a dictatorship" now? Or do they just take issue with the specific meaning of the word democracy

Regardless, how to they square it with what ~the founders~ said?

They believe the founders would agree with them, and use the electoral college as an example of how "they knew pure democracy was bad and they didn't want the biggest states to run the country." Also before the Seventeenth Amendment, senators were chosen by the state legislatures rather than voted for by the people. You'll see some right wingers claim that the Seventeenth Amendment is one of the biggest reasons for the downfall of the country and we need to go back to it (because more states have Republican state governments, which would give them strong control of the Senate).

But as others have said, what it amounts to is a justification for things like Trump winning in 2016 where they lost the popular vote but still won. Back before same sex marriage was legalized federally, you'd see states pass laws prohibiting it that would be ruled against in the courts (Prop 8 was a big one), and right wingers ranted about judges "overturning the will of the people." Because overturning the popular vote is bad, when it's something they want.

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


That Garrison is the most pathetic one in awhile. Just literally calling your political opponent an idiot, wow how clever.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

Faustian Bargain posted:

That Garrison is the most pathetic one in awhile. Just literally calling your political opponent an idiot, wow how clever.

The Dunce cap is a powerful symbol, you wouldn't want to overuse it...

Raised By Birds
May 5, 2013
It also reminds me of one of the Alt-Right Playbook videos that talked about egalitarian vs hierarchical mindsets. For those who hold to the latter, society can be divided into the Worthy and the Unworthy; without external interference, the Worthy will naturally rise to their rightful status, and social woes attributed to Unworthy rising above the Worthy.

I imagine those with the anti-democracy bent are along these lines. I'm sure they like being able to primary Republican candidates they don't like and vote for Worthy Rs in generals, but they shouldn't be able to vote; they shouldn't have a say in the government. If they wield too much political power they might place Unworthy politicians in places of power. The "natural" order would be disrupted. They would be willing to ultimately sacrifice their own vote, their own power, if they believe it will entrench strongmen high up enough to ensure Unworthy are never able to rise that high ever again.

To them, democracy is only useful insofar as it can be used to grant power to the Worthy, after which it becomes a liability that could let Unworthy pols enter the scene.

Oh and it's a TOOOOOTAL coincidence that they see themselves as among the Worthy.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Raised By Birds posted:

IThey would be willing to ultimately sacrifice their own vote, their own power, if they believe it will entrench strongmen high up enough to ensure Unworthy are never able to rise that high ever again.

Yeah, there's a lot of women on Freep who talk about how they wish they didn't have the right to vote, because if the right to vote was taken from women it would ensure Republican dominance.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

Flipperwaldt posted:

Republic => Republican Party => The good guys
Democracy => DemocRAT Party => The bad guys

I don't think it goes beyond thinking that some deep truth is behind that. Not knowing what truth exactly, just thinking that there must be.

note also that "democrat" is a term invented by the republican party specifically as a slur; it ends in "rat" as suggested and it suggests other bad things like bureaucrats and it just sounds unpleasant. the correct equivalent of "republicans" would be "democratics."

Mistikman
Jan 21, 2001

I was born ready. I'm Ron Fucking Swanson.

Sagebrush posted:

note also that "democrat" is a term invented by the republican party specifically as a slur; it ends in "rat" as suggested and it suggests other bad things like bureaucrats and it just sounds unpleasant. the correct equivalent of "republicans" would be "democratics."

Wait really?

I know they intentionally started saying Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party (which loving stuck, because the Democratic Party can't message for poo poo, and it's the one thing the Republican Party is brilliant at,) but I don't believe I have ever heard individual members referred to as anything other than Democrats.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

You know what, Jim Carrey is bad. But he's better than when he started, so good for him.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

:australia:

Leak, Son of Leak:

Victoria plans for international students' return with special quarantine housing (Guardian).
Note that the university sector in Australia is federally funded and increasingly less funded under continuing Liberal governments (which is why they rely on international students) and both government to universities and international students stuck here during the pandemic have had little to no support.

Rowe 1:


Rowe 2:


Rowe 3:


Warren Brown:


Broelman:

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Faustian Bargain posted:

That Garrison is the most pathetic one in awhile. Just literally calling your political opponent an idiot, wow how clever.

He lost his biggest megaphone and the grift is heavily damaged now. Garrison shook

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Flipperwaldt posted:

Republic => Republican Party => The good guys
Democracy => DemocRAT Party => The bad guys

I don't think it goes beyond thinking that some deep truth is behind that. Not knowing what truth exactly, just thinking that there must be.
I know this seems dumb as hell but from what I've seen of most people arguing it, it is in fact the truth. It's really that simple. Us good, you bad. Don't get me wrong, it's also about not caring about the issues or principles or will of the people and just wanting your side to win, but the messaging of "it sounds like my side" is definitely a big part of it.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Republicans have no principles any more except Trump Trump Trump.

In Pennsylvania, the bill that expanded mail-in voting passed with overwhelming Republican support. It was hailed as an amazing bipartisan legislative compromise: Dems signed off on the demise of straight ticket voting and Republicans agreed that mail in voting was awesome and cool. This was October 2019.

Flash forward a year and the exact same slimeball motherfuckers who passed the bill they said was the greatest thing since sliced pickles are suddenly saying that the thing they authored and voted into existence is a vast left-wing conspiracy. Just because they're a bunch of sore losers with no principles.

SerialKilldeer
Apr 25, 2014

Scaramouche posted:

You know what, Jim Carrey is bad. But he's better than when he started, so good for him.

Is he still antivax?

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



SerialKilldeer posted:

Is he still antivax?

No.

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!
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Raised By Birds
May 5, 2013

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

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I can't believe this is real either.

Siegfried was a giant anthropomorphic tiger this whole time and no one knew? He really was a skilled illusionist!

The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble
Wait, is this saying "if minorities then why not dogs?!"

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DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

The Artificial Kid posted:

Wait, is this saying "if minorities then why not dogs?!"

I went back to read it twice and I can't think of a more charitable interpretation. Allie thinks Biden's cabinet doesn't have enough white people in it so clearly he's just ~virtue signaling~

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