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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

OP



Previous Threads: 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2007-2008

Welcome to the Political Cartoons Thread! This is where we post, discuss, and mock political cartoons and the cartoonists that make them. It's the first year of Joe Biden's presidency, and we await the fresh hell that approaches us. So more than ever, edits and parodies are welcome in this den of hacks, shills, and has-beens, with weekends being a good opportunity to share any older cartoons you've dug up. Check out your local library for older archives and don't be afraid to share. So familiarize yourself with the thread rules, and dive into what's been called "D&D's worst thread" by critics!

Hey, we have a new president, meaning it's a great time for newcomers to join in, as conservative cartoonists start pretending to care about the national debt again, while liberal cartoonists act like everything is back normal! It's going to be a lot of fun! I'm dying inside!




:siren:This is the stuff that can get you probated or banned, so listen up.:siren:
  • Sometimes cartoonists are cheeky and use nudity in their cartoons. Remember to link that poo poo and put a :nws: warning next to it.
  • There is no moratorium for any subject. When something bad happens, don't tell people that it's "too soon" to bring up topic X, Y, or Z. This bugs the mod staff because it's not like someone is going to come in later and say it's now okay to discuss those topics now. It also derails the thread like you wouldn't believe.
  • Chris Muir and Day by Day are still banned from the thread.
  • Do not touch the poop without extremely careful consideration. "Touching the poop" means interacting with a cartoonist for the sake of getting some chuckles out of it. This can be funny, but some of the cartoonists discussed in this thread have legitimate mental illnesses, and we don't need to send these people over the edge or trying to sue this place (even if you think it would be hilariously futile). If you believe you have a stellar idea, then check in with the thread first before going through with it.


:siren:THESE ARE NOT HARD RULES:siren: This is just a list of recommendations to make the thread go more smoothly. Don't yell at people or report them for violating poo poo here unless it actually violates a forum rule!
  • Discussion about which cartoonist is "best" or "worst" have a tendency to go nowhere fast, and it won't cover anything that hasn't been touched on before.
  • Requesting that people stop posting a particular cartoonist is an exercise in futility. It's nearly impossible to get people to agree on what cartoonists to ban from the thread, so they're all allowed. You're just going to have to suck it up and skip the ones you hate. If you really think a cartoon isn't appropriate for the thread, then take it up with a mod.
  • Having said the above, please limit how often you dig up amateur work from places like DeviantArt, 4chan, or Reddit. While it can be a humorous change of pace to bring up some skinhead's furry cartoons to mock, this has a tendency to get old quickly. This also includes outright Nazi crap like Stonetoss; there 's no limit, but for the thread's mental health it's best to not overdo it.
  • When posting a large number of cartoons, don't just post a bunch of links. As a courtesy to people reading, it's helpful to put a unique number next to each cartoon so people can easily pick out certain cartoons out when quoting your post.
  • Kelly from the Onion is parody, and encouraging new readers to think that he's sincere has long stopped being funny.
  • Rarely, a cartoonist will actually acknowledge our existence on social media or wherever. Try not to be weird about it, such as making a post that directly addresses that person.
  • That being said, don't be afraid to engage in some discourse over whatever the cartoons are discussing!
  • Yes. there is a separate thread dedicated to UK Political Cartoons. That doesn't mean you they can't be posted here, so stop bringing it up.



Q: This guy got paid for this?
A: Maybe! Political Cartoonists are generally paid in two ways--as a staff position or on a per-cartoon basis by a syndicate.

If a cartoonist is a staff cartoonist, they'll list their employer by their name. These cartoonists are paid a living wage and just about all of their cartoons are actually approved by an editor, printed, and seen by human beings.

If a cartoonist is a member of a syndicate, they'll list their syndicate by their name, usually Cagle or U-Click. These syndicates act as a market for editors. We have no idea whether a particular cartoon posted by a syndicate is actually sold. Reportedly, they are sold for around $10 a cartoon, which is then split by the cartoonist and the syndicate. As you can imagine, this means a cartoonist can make very little or very much in syndication.

As the internet has ingrained itself in our daily lives over the past 20 years, some cartoonists have found success with crowdfunding such as Patreon or Kickstarter. This is still fairly rare, but as newspaper continue to whittle down their staff to appease their shareholders, it may be the norm.

Q: How obscure is this guy? Is anyone ever actually going to see this?
A: For most, there's no way to tell. Unless they're a staff cartoonist, the cartoon may never be printed or seen by anyone. Most of the cartoonists here are published to a fairly large audience but, as the internet offers easier ways to get your work out there, this thread has seen an increasing amount of obscure or fringe cartoonists. Just assume they're read by a non-trivial amount of people unless there's proof otherwise.

Q: Is everyone posted here an evil, stupid, conservative rear end in a top hat?
A: No, we post all kinds. Sometimes a cartoon will present an evil idea sarcastically, sometimes they're just evil. If you can't tell just by looking at it, just look them up in the index for a very general idea.

Q: Did this cartoonist get a Pulitzer for one cartoon or what?
A: Apparently Pulitzers many decades ago were given out for a particular cartoon or two, but as time goes on it seems to have shifted to the artist's work for the year. So while we make mock someone like Ramirez for obvious "Pulitzer Bait", technically all of his cartoons are judged for the award. Yeah...we don't hold the Pulitzer in high regard.

Q: Is this just for American/Canadian cartoonists, or...?
A: We allow cartoons of all stripes, and we adore stuff from foreign cartoonists as a break from the usual suspects. There is a thread for UK cartoons, but we've felt that there haven't been enough UK cartoons posted in this thread and would encourage people to start posting them in here again. However it would be nice, if you have the time, to explain some of the stuff that harder to decipher.

Q: What about funny page cartoons? Webcomics?
A: A cartoon with regular political content, such as Doonesbury or Prickly City, can be posted here no problem. Your Garfield and Family Circus stuff should go to the Comic Strip Megathread in BSS, although feel free to share the rare individual strips that are political in nature. Webcomics follow the same procedure: it's fair game if there's overt contemporary political themes, otherwise take it elsewhere. Remember that Day by Day, a political webcomic, is banned from this thread. Take it to the Bad Webcomic Thread or whatever place allows such garbage.

Q: Can I share this crazy email from my mom? How about this image macro I saw on Facebook?
A: This thread is strictly for political cartoons. There are usually dedicated threads for crazy emails, social media posts, or Freep-watching. Memes are not political cartoons, so keep that Minion image macro your great aunt posted to yourself...unless Glenn McCoy drew it.

Q: Can I see more from X?
A: We'd really like to see more people consistently posting the same cartoonist(s) so they don't get missed. If you want to step up to the plate for a particular person, then by all means. You can post them as they come, or do weekly dumps if that's easier on you.

Q: What happened to the cartoonist index?
A: The index was an artifact from when old poster XyloJW made the thread, and I kept it updated for the sake of new people. However, the list took a decent chunk of time to update each year, and very few people used it so it didn't solve the problem of people asking the same questions about cartoonists. Xander77 made a few profiles about the more infamous cartoonists posted here, in case you need a primer:
Payne: http://imgur.com/gallery/C2ysj
Garrison: http://imgur.com/gallery/ZdFwM
Tinsley: http://imgur.com/gallery/hFGWV
Gorrell: http://imgur.com/gallery/rnrPT
Ramirez: http://imgur.com/gallery/QrEjj
Rall: http://imgur.com/gallery/xDjKV

Q: Hey, this cartoon isn't political!
A: While "the personal is political" is an overused catchphrase to defend seemingly apolitical cartoons, what is and isn't political can get a bit fuzzy. This can be exacerbated if Death of the Author is considered, and whether or not the creator even intended to make a political statement. Just remember that issues such as LGBT rights, racial justice, and especially topics of class struggle are political even if they don't mention a politician or current event. If got a real bee in your bonnet about it then report the offending post to a mod.

Q: This thread sucks and I want a better one!
A: CSPAM has a thread, for those who are in the mood for a (better?) class of posters. Or you crave punishment for the sins of your past, and want another thread about political cartoons to post in. This is self-harm, and you need help.


The thread has developed a few inside jokes and terms. Some of these are woefully out of date, but preserved just in case:

AGC: Shorthand for "A Good Cartoon." Basically, you intentionally interpret a comic with a fairly obvious bad message as having a good message. The original point of this was to poke fun at some of the really poor metaphors that some cartoonists were crafting, but the concept of AGC has been run into the ground. If you want to see some quality ones, Saint Sputnik has a blog dedicated to these.
Benghazi: While I think everyone is familiar with the Benghazi attacks, newer users might be unaware that one of the victims was Sean "vilerat" Smith, who was a long-time member and moderator of D&D. Seeing cartoonists use the death of a sincerely missed member of the community as a desperate attempt to smear Obama has made Benghazi a rather sore issue for everyone in this thread.
Can't Handle: The thread is known for getting into spats over ridiculous subjects. However, this phrase was used waaaaay too much, and you're not being witty by yelling "Can't Handle!" when people arguing over actual political stuff as opposed to goofy poo poo like weathervanes. Yes, we have actually argued over weathervanes.
DASGC: Stands for "Dumb and so Goddamn Crazy." A cartoon that portrays the opposing side as screaming, ignorant children, and their own side as patient, knowledgeable adults. Based on a Shmorky cartoon.
Don't Be Willfully Dense: A line from cartoonist Eric Allie when someone pointed out how stupid his cartoon was. Has become a thread motto of sorts to not be an idiot when interpreting the message of any given cartoon.
Gerald: A name given to a stock character used in many conservative cartoons. Typically a standard middle-aged white guy with glasses and little hair. Exists only to wryly point out how bad and dumb the strawman of the day is.
It's a Powerful Symbol: Phrase made popular during the short-lived Kelly commentaries. When describing the crying Statue of Liberty, Kelly said "it's a powerful symbol...you don't want to overuse it" when of course the joke is that Liberty is in nearly every Kelly cartoon. Used sarcastically for overused symbolism, especially Liberty but can be anything such as bald eagles or uncle sam.
Nonsense...This Is An Election Year: This phrase comes from a cartoon that was the subject of an Onion article mocking nonsensical political cartoons. Sometimes a person may post this phrase in response to a political cartoon, and that's basically a way of saying "this makes no loving sense."
Pants Donkey: The nickname for a donkey from an old Mike Luckovich cartoon, and is essentially the mascot of the thread at this point. We have no idea why.
PBF: The Perry Bible Fellowship was a webcomic that people frequently over-analyzed, so much to the point that to "PBF" something is to dig way deeper than you were supposed to for a cartoon's meaning.
Skull Donkey: Several cartoonists, including Lisa Benson and Jerry Holbert, draw donkeys in such a way that it's easy to edit their snouts into cartoonish skulls. The golden age of skull edits is long over, but it's still a fun game. An example:

becomes

Please put some thought into skull donkey edits!
Wormbama: It was common for Michael Ramirez to draw former President Obama with a weird squished face that resembled a worm. The thread game up with this nickname for the phenomenon.
You Gotta Give Me the Fangs: Another joke from the brief Kelly video series, it references Kelly begging his editor to keep fangs on a Chinese person. Used to describe when a cartoonist is being especially racist with their caricature.
Zionism: Okay, not really unique to this thread, but enough people have asked about it to merit being in here. Zionism, in a very simple definition, is just far-right nationalism for Israel. However, if you are hearing Zionism used in the same context as the Rothschilds or the Illuminati or basically any Dees cartoon, then you're just dealing with antisemitic conspiracy stuff.
$CUM PASS: A cartoonist drew a sign intended to read SCUM PASS, but they decided to use a differently colored $ symbol for the S. The end result was something that read CUM PASS and made the thread lose its collective mind.


Some edits, parodies, and cartoons become quite memorable and frequently requested. Please check out the Politoon Archive first before asking for stuff in the thread. I'll try to remember to use the OP to collect memorable stuff from this year, and then archive it at the end of the year.


Sometimes stuff that starts here gets collected on its own site. Note that several of these sites have stopped updating, but the archives are always fun for a spin.
A Good Cartoon: Saint Sputnik collects the best AGCs here.
Ye Fowl Herald: You know that old medieval tapestry maker thing that was popular on the internet several years ago? Well, Saint Sputnik is using it to recreate Mallard Fillmore strips.
Iran Will Have Nukes Any Day Now: Pants Donkey has collected cartoons that predict the imminent threat of a nuclear Iran. Some of these cartoons are over a decade old.
If Global Warming Is Real, Then Why Is It Cold: A depressing collection of cartoons that display people's complete lack of climate education.
Political PBF: Some unknown genius took old PBF strips and turning them into political cartoons. It's a lot better than it sounds.


The Gay Abortions are our annual awards for the worst cartoons of the year (and the best edits or parodies), named after a hilarious parody cartoon. If you see a cartoon you want to nominate, quote it and include "Gaybies nomination:" and the category you want to nominate it for, so the organizers of the contest have an easy way to track nominations. The current categories are:

  • Worst Cartoon about a Tragedy
  • Worst cartoon about Terrorism
  • Worst Obituary Cartoon
  • Worst Caricature
  • Worst "A Thing Happened" Cartoon
  • Worst Label
  • Most Incomprehensible
  • Least Concealed Bigotry in a Cartoon
  • Worst "Deep State" Cartoon
  • Laziest Non-Gorrell Cartoon
  • Most Easily Reinterpreted
  • Most Willfully Dense
  • Worst Gaslighter Cartoon
  • Best Edit/Parody
  • Worst Cartoon about the Election

I've marked new categories in bold.

Please note that "Worst Cartoon about Terrorism" includes mass shootings.

To make the life of the compiler easier, Wiki Sours now has a nominations page as well. Please consider cross-posting your nominations to that page as well!

Around the end of the year, the Gaybies thread will be created, where we'll collect the various nominations and also take nominations for Worst Overall Political Cartoon 20210.

I'd like more information about the political cartoons I'm reading!

Check out Wiki Sours, the companion wiki to the Politoons thread!

Pants Donkey fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jan 1, 2022

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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

RESERVED

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

My body is ready.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Let's ring in the new year with Ben calling for imprisonment of political enemies!

Ben Garrison posted:

SAVE THE DATE!
Wednesday, January 6 is a red letter day. I’m sure many have the date circled on their new calendars. Probably in red ink. Soon it could be circled in fire.

It’s a protest day for many Trump supporters. They’ll be in Washington D.C. to help the president in his quest for justice. The election was blatantly stolen by the Democrat Socialists. The evidence is overwhelming, but the corporate media, the courts, and many in Congress are content to be led by a corrupt and demented swamp and basement-dwelling pedophile, China Joe Biden.

The big question is, will Vice President Mike Pence come through for Trump and challenge the electoral votes in key states? Will he stop the steal? We will all soon know, but I have my doubts. If Pence sides with Biden, then he’ll go down in history as the second Benedict Arnold. Trump should then initiate the Insurrection Act and arrest them all for attempting a coup. After all, they were aided by China and other foreign operatives. Trump should hand Pence a second envelope that says, “You’re Fired.” I hope I’m wrong about Pence, but I have my doubts about him. If he proves me wrong and sides with the president, I’ll be delighted.

January 6th can be a turning point in US history. It can be the day when patriots take not just a stand, but real action against the globalists who want a ‘great reset,’ which means America will live under a totalitarian system similar to communist China.

We don’t want a ’new normal’ that’s being forced upon us by tyrants. We want the regular constitutional normal. We The People want our Republic back.

Make America Great Again!
Starting off the new year with a muscular eagle. I see Ben resolved to push the furry art in 2021.

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor
Thanks for getting this going, PD!

I dont know
Aug 9, 2003

That Guy here...
The first cartoon of the new thread is Garrison with a direct call for coup and political violence. I don't imagine that's a great omen for the coming year.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008
i love

political cartoons

god save us

Capfalcon
Apr 6, 2012

No Boots on the Ground,
Puny Mortals!

A+ thread title.

I dont know posted:

The first cartoon of the new thread is Garrison with a direct call for coup and political violence. I don't imagine that's a great omen for the coming year.

There is always more, and it is always worse.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy
If it turns out the democrat socialists rigged the election for biden, I'm going to stop paying dues

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
Ready for another year of hating this fuckin thread and everything that gets posted in it :v:

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse
I don't get it, what's with all the labels.

Can anyone label the joke?

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


I can't believe these threads have been going on for this long.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

Yosuke will now die for you.
Please note that the posters of the thread are lazy enough that “If global warming is real, then why is it cold?” is now generally reduced to “if global warming, why cold?”

Anyway, if I wanted to get some terrible cartoons by terrible artists what are the best places to find them?

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

Pants Donkey posted:

Let's ring in the new year with Ben calling for imprisonment of political enemies!

Starting off the new year with a muscular eagle. I see Ben resolved to push the furry art in 2021.

Quick question what's Ben Garrison's backup plan if this doesn't work?

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

DarklyDreaming posted:

Quick question what's Ben Garrison's backup plan if this doesn't work?

He'll draw a really mean cartoon about it, like he did when someone at a store told him to put on his mask.

CampingCarl
Apr 28, 2008




DarklyDreaming posted:

Quick question what's Ben Garrison's backup plan if this doesn't work?
Another civil war or a vigorous shifting of goalposts like the last dozen ways they convinced themselves Trump was going to stay president, whichever is easier.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

DarklyDreaming posted:

Quick question what's Ben Garrison's backup plan if this doesn't work?

Trump will always be approximately two weeks from jailing everyone BenG hates and declaring himself president for life. Every failure is just a feint to distract from the real coup, which will happen any day now.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

Yosuke will now die for you.
Is there a term for someone who buys into a conspiracy theory completely but is also 100% a grifter?

Lotsofluck
Nov 26, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
How about to add to the categories of nominations, Worst Cartoon About Corona and Worst Cartoon About Riots, because those were two major things this year.

(USER WAS PERMABANNED FOR THIS POST)

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

DalaranJ posted:

Is there a term for someone who buys into a conspiracy theory completely but is also 100% a grifter?

A profit seeking true believer?

Vagabong
Mar 2, 2019
Having a laugh at that bizzarely ripped eagle arm.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

duz posted:

I can't believe these threads have been going on for this long.

This year's thread went on a full 48 hours longer than normal. But then it was 2020, time has worked in strange ways.

So, who's going to be the first cartoonist to defend Lin Wood for saying Pence should be executed as a traitor if he doesn't overturn the electoral college vote?

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

endlessmonotony posted:

I don't get it, what's with all the labels.

Can anyone label the joke?

The joke is on us for reading these politoons

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

DarklyDreaming posted:

Quick question what's Ben Garrison's backup plan if this doesn't work?

cry, mostly

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Pants Donkey posted:

Let's ring in the new year with Ben calling for imprisonment of political enemies!

Starting off the new year with a muscular eagle. I see Ben resolved to push the furry art in 2021.

This anthropomorphized eagle has arms so big they can't wipe their own rear end

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Getting in on the ground floor so I can then ignore this thread for months at a time for my overall sanity.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


DarklyDreaming posted:

Quick question what's Ben Garrison's backup plan if this doesn't work?

A lot of cartoons griping about the Biden administration.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
This page needs more classic cartoons. Where is the "not my butt!" Obama one??

Budzilla
Oct 14, 2007

We can all learn from our past mistakes.

Regalingualius posted:

Getting in on the ground floor so I can then ignore this thread for months at a time for my overall sanity.

You will never find happiness or sanity if you return here willingly.

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
Ready for another year of this poo poo. :suicide:

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana
Nov 25, 2013

Hahahaha yes! Garrison just going full QAnon was the highlight of this thread last time around and it's already kicking off

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Jagged Jim posted:

Ready for another year of this poo poo. :suicide:

Hell yeah.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

The ride never stops

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
There is always more, and there is always worse :toot:

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA

Jagged Jim posted:

Ready for another year of this poo poo. :suicide:
Get ready to waller!

Happy new years to you all. May we never be cured of the curse that keeps us here

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

GoutPatrol posted:

This anthropomorphized eagle has arms so big they can't wipe their own rear end

Eagles don't get poo poo on, they poo poo on everyone else!

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Another year, another pile of scathingly tepid takes from the cartoonists we love to hate hate to acknowledge the existence of.

DarklyDreaming posted:

Quick question what's Ben Garrison's backup plan if this doesn't work?

Ben basically has two fallback plans.

1. The Deep State/Swamp/Jews are thwarting Daddy Trump, but they'll relent under his unflinching manliness any day now.

2. Failing is actually Trump's master stroke play in Nth Dimensional Chess, and now he's primed to make his REAL play.

the_steve fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Jan 3, 2021

UZworm
Feb 9, 2009

Young wild Elsweyrian
C'mon baby, do you have a soul gem
Another year of Ted Rall arguments let's goooo

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

UZworm posted:

Another year of Ted Rall arguments let's goooo

Bors is just as bad as Rall, if not worse

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Mistikman
Jan 21, 2001

I was born ready. I'm Ron Fucking Swanson.

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Bors is just as bad as Rall, if not worse

Now you are just trying to start a fight.

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