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I wonder if there are unfinished/unused plotlines or quests that may get added back in with future patches.
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2house2fly posted:it creates an system save before going in which you can just load up any time after you're done, so no reason at all Fallout 76 was definitely up there, but I remember trying to play Destiny 1 during the first month of release, it would rarely even let you in the game! But they turned it around super quick. Question is when CDPR will turn this around.
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Grouchio posted:I wonder if there are unfinished/unused plotlines or quests that may get added back in with future patches. Clown man is 100% this
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w00tmonger posted:Clown man is 100% this gently caress calling in panam let me call in ozob to storm arasaka, he'd probably enjoy it e: the crowbcat video is good, it is sad how refreshing it is to just see objective evidence and not some sarcastic bearded blob shrieking into the camera about how XXX is literally an utter failure and a personal betrayal Eau de MacGowan fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Jan 18, 2021 |
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Is 1.07 out yet? I've had Delamain questlines completely broken my entire playthrough. Hoping that fixes it. Edit: And I hit post way too early. Does anyone have any workaround fix? Where Del will call you but you can't pick up for his questline. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Jan 18, 2021 |
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2house2fly posted:NMS also had bugs and performance issues. But you know what game had more? That's right: Fallout 76 Yeah, considering Anthem and Fallout 76 happened in the last 2 years, there's really no grounds to say this is the overall worst game release of all time. At least you can actually beat this game (unlike Anthem at launch) and it's actually pretty drat good (unlike FO76). EDIT: Hell, you couldn't finish Skyrim at launch, either. The portal to Sovngard would instantly crash and they didn't patch it for like almost 3 weeks, so the game could not be completed. Fuzz fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Jan 18, 2021 |
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Jan 18, 2021 09:07
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ughhhh posted:While cyberpunk might have not met everyone's expectations, at least it got us another Crowbcat video. I was praying Crowbcat would have a video on this fiasco and now my prayers have been answered. 
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Grouchio posted:I wonder if there are unfinished/unused plotlines or quests that may get added back in with future patches. Given how bad the quest is, it seems like they never finished it, but accidentally left the thing that starts it in the game.
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As much as I think the game would benefit from having cut narrative content added back in, there's just no incentive to do that, either logistically or financially. These elements were probably cut for a reason (the team couldn't get them to work properly, voice actors never recorded lines, quests were poorly designed, etc.) and for a product that's already riddled with technical problems, devoting time and resources towards improving some aspect of the game that everybody's probably seen by this point isn't much of a value proposition. If there are improvements to be made, it'll probably come in the form of DLC that runs parallel to the main narrative -- unlocking the second half of Pacifica, for example -- which could also help to round out the Voodoo Boys from their clearly abbreviated role in the story.
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ughhhh posted:While cyberpunk might have not met everyone's expectations, at least it got us another Crowbcat video. Extremely pro watch. Really puts all this game's poo poo into perspective.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i feel like Pacifica was supposed to be a major area and have way more quests and dynamic poo poo. kinda like a skelega or white orchard with probably more quests for VdBs and netwatch and other poo poo. you can see that they are setting the boys up as "well they care of the community but they also keep the community isolated and under their boot and totally reliant on the gang and they have a full isolationist "hermit kingdom" with in the city and kill or exploit all outsiders but also if you think about it you can't fully blame them" type deal. you see the set up but whats there is basically the bare bones and the end. Agreed in full. I suspect cut content. Didn't spoiler my reply because its sufficiently generic. Could be talking about anything.
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DancingShade posted:Agreed in full. I suspect cut content. Everything even.
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Ultimately any DLC should have a new protaganist with maybe making deals and siding with particular factions in Night City. Some of the quest lines seemed to end rather abruptly. Ultimately I didnt really care that much about V like I do with other characters in these open world games such as a Geralt or Arthur from Rdr2
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infraboy posted:Ultimately any DLC should have a new protaganist with maybe making deals and siding with particular factions in Night City. Some of the quest lines seemed to end rather abruptly. Honestly, I really liked and empathized with V, but DLC with a new character would actually be pretty cool. Night City itself is the coolest character
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infraboy posted:Ultimately I didnt really care that much about V like I do with other characters in these open world games such as a Geralt or Arthur from Rdr2 I mean, both of those characters are a lot more fully realized than V who's mostly a blank slate.
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Yeah V has three completely different backgrounds to choose from that would have extreme cultural impacts on them and the only time it matters is when choosing a response in a conversation here and there. V is just a well acted player stand in and it's pretty boring. I remember when Civilization: Beyond Earth came out and they deliberately made the leaders boring tropes so the players could project on them and I dunno why devs still believe this is something people want.
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Jan 18, 2021 12:15
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blank slates means people can fantasize about being a horrible hyper capitalistic hellscape where you can't win. 
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Demiurge4 posted:
Honestly after Mass Effect the whole "blank slate" should have pretty much died. It's way more interesting to make choices that define who your character is as a person than pretend you're a self-insert. I think "blank slate" only works with a game like say...Doom Eternal. The story is like in a porn movie, it's expected to be there. But it's not as important.
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infraboy posted:Ultimately I didnt really care that much about V like I do with other characters in these open world games such as a Geralt or Arthur from Rdr2 Yeah, I feel like this is one of my biggest problems with the game. Bugs and unfinished content aside, the foundation of the game being a empty non-character is a real detriment to the overall story. Having 3 backstories to choose from is effectively the same as having none, your character knows nobody and has no history with anything or anyone that you've not personally played through. I just don't think that player insert fully customisable characters can ever fit into a story rich game. You lose so much.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:
Except the Slayer in DOOM Eternal isn't even a blank slate. He's a pretty defined character with his own agenda.
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I was down on Blank slates for a while, but over time I started feeling they are useful in making it more clear that acting like a moron for the sake of the plot rails is just that. Compared to trying to play things off like "No see it is in character for them to protest destroying the anti-zombie medication for three whole seconds before throwing it all into a fire." Because no see they have characterization it's not your story. Yes, blank slate encourages the feeling a writer can get away with "I've been doing the gullible idiot thing HOW many times?" stuff more. But they won't get people declaring you just don't get deep characters and want a self insert power fantasy who can't make mistakes when your character suddenly does something stupid that dooms themselves or others for the sake of The Plot. Even when you love a game overall. "Okay if I'm so over my life of crime and just want to be one with nature and agreeable in all these sidequests NPCs, why am I suddenly a rage monster with this frail dying man who owes me five dollars when I've made five thousand dollars just loving around? "It's not YOUR character." Section Z fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Jan 18, 2021 |
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Jan 18, 2021 12:48
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This came up for me in SOMA. The story is very cool and the theme is extremely my jam, but it was just ruined by the main character being so loving dumb. The game gives you all these info blurps and journals and a literal in-character scenario of how the main story point works and at the end he's still a completely clueless rube about what happened.
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Jan 18, 2021 12:52
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However, it's canon that V doesn't read any of the shards they find. 
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Donnerberg posted:However, it's canon that V doesn't read any of the shards they find. *usb stick on the ground* what's this? in to the brain hole you go
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Demiurge4 posted:This came up for me in SOMA. The story is very cool and the theme is extremely my jam, but it was just ruined by the main character being so loving dumb. The game gives you all these info blurps and journals and a literal in-character scenario of how the main story point works and at the end he's still a completely clueless rube about what happened. Blank Slate: Ugh why is this mother fucker so stupid? Provided character: Excuse me! It is incredibly lore friendly he is functionally brain damaged. Bonus hybrid: "It is lore friendly your ex Corpo counter intel team leader calling the shots on who gets extracted or not blank slate is just as naive as a wide eyed street kid practically ready to sing Disney song about making it big in Night City." "...Okay wait a minute, wasn't that supposed to be a deep backstory and not a blank slate?" On a lighter note. Corpo start may be short, but they cram a shitload of "We'll never see this again, except that one phone call that leads to a two minute long mission" character traits into it. Just staring forlornly at my life coah contact in my phone after trying to call Jackie when he dies. Good job shoving as much as you could into a single set of office cubicles. Section Z fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Jan 18, 2021 |
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In fact, cyberpsycho V collects shards like trophies. Keanu, if you're still reading the thread, I want a stash like Dexter's for my shards.
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I wrapped up Judy's last mission and that was a bit of a downer. She was very nice and we said an extremely pleasant goodbye and she basically gave me her apartment, but hearing that her entire effort to save the workers at Clouds resulted in Tom dying and the Tyger Claws coming back down hard on them, and that she essentially has no friends left outside of V and just can't stand to be in the city anymore was a real kick in the teeth. I do love how this image came out though.
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Jerusalem posted:I wrapped up Judy's last mission and that was a bit of a downer. She was very nice and we said an extremely pleasant goodbye and she basically gave me her apartment, but hearing that her entire effort to save the workers at Clouds resulted in Tom dying and the Tyger Claws coming back down hard on them, and that she essentially has no friends left outside of V and just can't stand to be in the city anymore was a real kick in the teeth. if theres one thing cyberpunk 2077 taught me its that weaponising your friends with poo poo you downloaded off the internet might have variable outcomes
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On somewhat of a tangent, doing the mission about the break-in at the politician's house and finding the email from Judy basically telling them to hire V because their work is "preem" was very sweet 
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Jerusalem posted:On somewhat of a tangent, doing the mission about the break-in at the politician's house and finding the email from Judy basically telling them to hire V because their work is "preem" was very sweet "Ugh, everything is real awkward after the VDB fiasco" *Judy texts me a picture of her lovely van on her road trip out of night city* 
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infraboy posted:Ultimately any DLC should have a new protaganist with maybe making deals and siding with particular factions in Night City. Some of the quest lines seemed to end rather abruptly. This would really annoy me, I don't want to play as a new character, I want to play as the character I already created
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2house2fly posted:This would really annoy me, I don't want to play as a new character, I want to play as the character I already created Don't worry it'll never happen, it'd be way, way too much work.
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2house2fly posted:This would really annoy me, I don't want to play as a new character, I want to play as the character I already created Maybe not a new character, but an existing one? Six month time gap as Jackie with your character as sidekick. Ballad of the Kerry Eurodyne. Rogues adventures with her crew. OR Cyberpunk 2020 as Johnny Silverhand
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Jack Trades posted:Extremely pro watch. Really puts all this game's poo poo into perspective. The best thing about this video is that it totally kneecaps the argument (often posted in this very thread) that any frustration or disappointment players had about missing features/features not working as claimed, was just because they had unrealistic expectations (the expectations that CDPR themselves set). CDPR flat-out lied about a bunch of poo poo regarding this game, and this video cites numerous examples of that.
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Section Z posted:"Ugh, everything is real awkward after the VDB fiasco" I wish all of V's friends sent more random messages like that. Only Judy sent some. 
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It would be extremely weird if they put out an expansion pack for an RPG where you started a new level 1 character... wouldn't it? I feel like they've referenced Blooc & Wine and Hearts of Stone enough to basically say "that is what you can expect" although I'd rather they just fill in the big blank gaps of Night City than add a new zone... except I want SPACE, give me Morgan Blackhand and the Spacestation Dammit!
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I can’t decide whether to keep playing this new character I made the other day, or wait until a couple more patches drop, if not DLC. I felt that way about Final Fantasy 15 too. I started a game but then stopped and waited about a year through all their patches that added a drastic new gameplay stuff, and then finally decided to finish it. Sadly, I didn’t like it very much even then and just rushed through the end. I hope it isn’t like that with this game.
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comte and keanu dont listen to this thread. v and his-her relationship with the cast is the only thing this game has it going. dlc with another dude would be awful
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Read a snippet somewhere that said "CP2077 is like Anthem with the difference that CP2077 still sold millions". And I cant get over that thought. It seems so loving true. With lovely employer down to utterly fake "gameplay demo". CDPR is the Bioware of tomorrow?
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