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Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
He's absolutely right.

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crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
count me in as one of the fools who thought poirier's static defense would get owned by conor's accuracy.

has conor fought southpaws before? i don't ever remember him taking the more squared stance instead of his usual super long stance with the annoying hand traps

SquirrelGrip
Jul 4, 2012
Diaz is a southpaw

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
And he got jabbed and check-hooked to gently caress in the first fight.

Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

I am the Wizard Master
What a vulgar, barbaric "Sport"

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014

Wizard Master posted:

What a vulgar, barbaric "Sport"

Yeah it owns

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Nate vs porier obviously

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

Google Butt posted:

Nate vs porier obviously

The People's Champ vs The People's Champ.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Josuke Higashikata posted:

In the lead up to the KO it was clear Conor had one idea and that was reaching left hands.

crepeface posted:

count me in as one of the fools who thought poirier's static defense would get owned by conor's accuracy.

Dustin got hit quite a bit with that left, it just didn't do him in.
In the first round, he was trying a few different things to answer it, including twice when he sent a right hook over it.
But he was still landing fewer punches than he was getting.

I forgot how good his killer instinct for finishes is.

Biafraid
Jan 31, 2008

yeah.
They'll make Conor Diaz 3 next I think

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
I hear Diego Sanchez is looking for a retirement fight.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Dustin landed the more impactful left hands throughout that fight. He also landed the more impactful rights, but that was never in doubt.

McGregor's best punches were a snapping jab he caught Dustin with moving in and a looping left he tried to recreate the first fight with, but neither really troubled Dustin much at all.

People forgot that Conor is a snappy puncher, but doesn't possess fight altering gently caress you power and also has pretty poor defence.

Shirkelton fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Jan 24, 2021

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
oh yeah, i forgot about diaz. another southpaw that gave conor a lot of trouble.

Biafraid posted:

They'll make Conor Diaz 3 next I think

imagine the terrifying durability of a diaz who's allowed to smoke weed against a low swag, ring-rust conor

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Shirkelton posted:

Dustin landed the more impactful left hands throughout that fight.
McGregor's best punches were a snapping jab he caught Dustin with moving in and a looping left he tried to recreate the first fight with, but neither really troubled Dustin much at all.
Until the right he cracked Conor with 2:47 to go in the 2nd, a couple of exchanges before the fight ending sequence, Dustin hadn't really hurt Conor as much as he'd been hurt by Conor with punches. Nothing huge from either man, but a testament to chin more than avoiding shots entirely.

quote:

People forgot that Conor is a snappy puncher, but doesn't possess fight altering gently caress you power
A lot of Conor's fights have been finished off of rocking people with single lefts.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

kimbo305 posted:

Until the right he cracked Conor with 2:47 to go in the 2nd, a couple of exchanges before the fight ending sequence, Dustin hadn't really hurt Conor as much as he'd been hurt by Conor with punches.

Nah.

kimbo305 posted:

A lot of Conor's fights have been finished off of rocking people with single lefts.

So? He has literally one single punch KO over considerable opposition and it was against a guy who is now fighting comfortably at Bantamweight. Dustin's sent some of the toughest of the elite reeling with single punches deep into the later rounds.

McGregor himself has spruiked being precise and having good timing over being fast or powerful, it's not really a secret.

Against anyone of note, Conor's almost always had to lay in the left multiple times to even wobble them and his impact disappears as soon as his technique and ringcraft evades him or he gets outboxed or out pressured.

He hits hard, sure, but it's mostly his timing, his control of distance and his accuracy that lends the oomph.

Shirkelton fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Jan 24, 2021

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
i don't like conor either but those are some very silly things to say.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


I agree with pretty much everything Kimbo305 posted there. In the first round Conor caught Dustin with a laser right hand that made him go crosseyed. I thought it was over at that point. On the slow mo replay it looked like Dustin wobbled, and took a second to think "am I still conscious? ok move your feet, get out of the way, don't let him follow up, take your time to recover."

brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

conor lost because he spent the last 4 years not fighting while everyone else learned about how to leg kick better (in a lot of ways) and he didn't, its not particularly complicated nor does it prohibit from him returning or continuing his slide to irrelevance, on his rise up he was ahead of the curve but is seemingly incapable of learning from peoples' adaptions

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

brian posted:

conor lost because he spent the last 4 years not fighting while everyone else learned about how to leg kick better (in a lot of ways) and he didn't, its not particularly complicated nor does it prohibit from him returning or continuing his slide to irrelevance, on his rise up he was ahead of the curve but is seemingly incapable of learning from peoples' adaptions

yeah it seems like he was completely unprepared for what's become the #1 weapon in the sport. especially for a guy who relies on his boxing so much, since we've seen leg kicks beat boxing in fights from the highest to the lowest level in the UFC.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Either you learn to deal with calf kicks or you don’t get to walk right for a while.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
I didn't watch this live because I refuse to put more money in Conor or Dana's pockets, so just popping in to say:

:D

CommonShore posted:

I agree with pretty much everything Kimbo305 posted there. In the first round Conor caught Dustin with a laser right hand that made him go crosseyed. I thought it was over at that point. On the slow mo replay it looked like Dustin wobbled, and took a second to think "am I still conscious? ok move your feet, get out of the way, don't let him follow up, take your time to recover."
Didn't Conor's own corner do interviews saying "Dustin always gets rocked early in the fight, but against us there won't be any coming back"? Maybe your fighter should lay off the Nicky Santoro diet.

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Jan 24, 2021

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
It is good that the bad raper man got starched. God bless

brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

presumably it's gotta be oliveira vs poirier for the title now, khabib seems only likely to come out of retirement for like possibly GSP but even that seems v unlikely

lets go do bronxxxxxxxxx

double negative
Jul 7, 2003


Shumagorath posted:

I didn't watch this live because I refuse to put more money in Conor or Dana's pockets, so just popping in to say:

lol seems like the people that chose to pay for it had a hard time watching it live too

NObodyNOWHERE
Apr 24, 2007

Now we are all sons of bitches.
Hell Gem

CommonShore posted:

I agree with pretty much everything Kimbo305 posted there. In the first round Conor caught Dustin with a laser right hand that made him go crosseyed. I thought it was over at that point. On the slow mo replay it looked like Dustin wobbled, and took a second to think "am I still conscious? ok move your feet, get out of the way, don't let him follow up, take your time to recover."

Yeah, in the presser Poirier acknowledged that he got hurt in the first. He said if McGregor would have followed up and pressured him then he would have been in trouble.

McGregor clearly has big power. That isn't always enough in MMA though. Ngannou's losses are illustrative of that fact. I feel like one of McGregor's big shortcomings is that his game is so completely built around the kill shot. If he gets it then he looks like a world beater. If not, he's going to struggle eventually because he doesn't really have a backup plan for adversity. At least not since his fight with Max.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
i was going to say that i thought he adjusted really well for the diaz rematch but as we've seen diaz is not really an elite fighter, and conor basically beat him by doing the same thing everyone who beats him does, even if he was at a physical disadvantage.

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud

omg chael crash posted:

Remember when these GDTs would be, like, 100 pages by the end of the night?!

Also, lmao, gently caress Conor

Much of the chatting happens in the discord now.

Kragger99
Mar 21, 2004
Pillbug

NObodyNOWHERE posted:

Yeah, in the presser Poirier acknowledged that he got hurt in the first. He said if McGregor would have followed up and pressured him then he would have been in trouble.

McGregor clearly has big power. That isn't always enough in MMA though. Ngannou's losses are illustrative of that fact. I feel like one of McGregor's big shortcomings is that his game is so completely built around the kill shot. If he gets it then he looks like a world beater. If not, he's going to struggle eventually because he doesn't really have a backup plan for adversity. At least not since his fight with Max.

That's how I saw it too. Dustin was hurt in the first (not horribly, but slightly wobbled), and shortly after, he hit Conor with a right hook - the one he smiled at Conor after (I think it was later in the 1st round?). I think that one gave Conor pause, and he didn't pounce like normal. Also I suspect his lead leg was somewhat deadened by then.
It really feels like the talent level in the sport has grown a lot in the last 5 years, whereas Conor has improved very little in comparison (too busy living like king rear end in a top hat will do that). A 1 year hiatus is doable, but 1-2 real fights in the last ~5 years ain't doing him any favors.

I wonder how Dana will respond now though - the div's 2 biggest stars/draws are: 1. retired 2. lost within 2 rounds to someone he beat ~7 years ago. I guess if Conor can win a couple fights, he'll gain some of that shine back, but see point #1 above...
If I were Dana, I'd book Conor vs Chandler - The winner of that could create a big draw title fight. It's either adding to Chandlers momentum if he wins, or Conor stealing that shine if he loses.. Though beating a extremely gun-shy Hooker isn't that amazing, it's mostly the end result most fans will remember.

shizen
Dec 29, 2006

Shirkelton posted:

Conor just said he wasn't rattled after going limp and cold, this guy shouldn't be getting interviewed.

He also was saying he never lost to khabib in interviews leading up to this fight. His ego is destroyed since khabib outclassed him even while cheating.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

double negative posted:

lol seems like the people that chose to pay for it had a hard time watching it live too
:lmao: if the feed cut out on their first event at $70 that Dana said he was going to personally prosecute and convict people for streaming

shizen posted:

He also was saying he never lost to khabib in interviews leading up to this fight. His ego is destroyed since khabib outclassed him even while cheating.
I tried to image search Takayama's I've Never Lost t-shirt and no joke Conor's photo was on the eighth row down.

of course anime poser porn was on the fifth so i dunno

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jan 24, 2021

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Foul Fowl posted:

i was going to say that i thought he adjusted really well for the diaz rematch but as we've seen diaz is not really an elite fighter, and conor basically beat him by doing the same thing everyone who beats him does, even if he was at a physical disadvantage.

im sorry did you just say that nate diaz isn't an elite fighter?

NObodyNOWHERE
Apr 24, 2007

Now we are all sons of bitches.
Hell Gem

Just want to take a moment to look back at this and say "lol"

brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

Foul Fowl posted:

i was going to say that i thought he adjusted really well for the diaz rematch but as we've seen diaz is not really an elite fighter, and conor basically beat him by doing the same thing everyone who beats him does, even if he was at a physical disadvantage.

how dare you besmirch the great nathaniel diaz sir

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

NObodyNOWHERE posted:

Yeah, in the presser Poirier acknowledged that he got hurt in the first. He said if McGregor would have followed up and pressured him then he would have been in trouble.

McGregor clearly has big power. That isn't always enough in MMA though. Ngannou's losses are illustrative of that fact. I feel like one of McGregor's big shortcomings is that his game is so completely built around the kill shot. If he gets it then he looks like a world beater. If not, he's going to struggle eventually because he doesn't really have a backup plan for adversity. At least not since his fight with Max.
Conor's first fight back after Khabib was also against a guy notorious for melting in any kind of marquee fight (despite having all the tools needed to win).

Ahahaha lollin' like that guy who lost a 9-fight parlay by Tito Ortiz guillotining Bader.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

please make the case for why Nate diaz isn't an elite fighter lmao please

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Google Butt posted:

please make the case for why Nate diaz isn't an elite fighter lmao please

Well, he has to fight, for one.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
Dude is 5-5 in his last ten, if you don't consider that elite, my god, what is??

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

Google Butt posted:

please make the case for why Nate diaz isn't an elite fighter lmao please

in the last ten years he's lost more than he's won and other than conor what's his best win? pettis? or cerrone in, uhh, 2011? he also never fights and just talks poo poo. which is great but i don't think that makes him an elite fighter.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

thank you for conceding, Nate will beat Dustin's rear end

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Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
i mean imagine if they'd actually booked him against a wrestler other than the husk of what once was gray maynard in the last seven years. instead they created a no wrestling allowed belt for him and masvidal to fight over lol

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