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Oneiros posted:that's basically the rap sheet for everyone who's ever been arrested for being disorderly at a city council meeting you go to some exciting city council meetings 
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Oneiros posted:that's basically the rap sheet for everyone who's ever been arrested for being disorderly at a city council meeting even the conspiracy bit?
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Feb 12, 2021 22:12
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kitten emergency posted:you go to some exciting city council meetings now do the charges for any given blm protest that got spicier than a block party also, lmao "assault on a federal officer" and "destruction of government property"
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Feb 12, 2021 22:13
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President Beep posted:even the conspiracy bit? conspiracy and racketeering is when you send $5 to a bail fund these days jesus christ you folks eat this poo poo up
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i think that the carceral system of law and punishment in america is an abomination and unfairly used against minorities and the poor, the truly systematically disadvantaged but i also think it should be fully put into use against nazis and a coup, for good reason these are not conflicting thoughts
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Oneiros posted:now do the charges for any given blm protest that got spicier than a block party yeah it's almost like the state cracks down extremely hard on all dissent
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yeah rap sheets aren't very compelling in terms of establishing an intentional threat to the system, because they're tools to do that specific thing no matter what the actual circumstances are more compelling is the protest's explicitly stated aim of trying to overturn the election result which is a weird thing to disregard imo
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Feb 12, 2021 22:19
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Sagebrush posted:seriously what's your problem? why are you defending these people? playing devil's advocate here doesn't make you smart, it makes you a shithead I'm not defending them! I want these loving freaks nailed to the wall. They're not and never were a danger to our government or its members but they're certainly a danger to their neighbors or anyone that dares say a reasonable thing out loud near them in a grocery store aisle or parking lot. I'm just downplaying the idea that this was a dangerous coup, calling it such is an insult to the people that actually get subjected to such things by us and is part of a sensationalized media narrative that I think we should steer clear of. It's some of the most bizarre political theater of our lifetimes.
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and its almost like the targets of the attack understand this when wanting justice https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib/status/1358812920050819075?s=20
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kitten emergency posted:
lmao my pudding brain parsed this as a SA probe/ban listing from the lepers colony
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Fortaleza posted:I'm just downplaying the idea that this was a dangerous coup, calling it such is an insult to the people that actually get subjected to such things by us and is part of a sensationalized media narrative that I think we should steer clear of. yeah i'm sure the people in myanmar are being super cynical and cool about it "you call that a coup??? babies." there's no reason to argue this unless you're trying to shift the window of what this insurrection can be called
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Fortaleza posted:I'm not defending them! I want these loving freaks nailed to the wall. They're not and never were a danger to our government or its members but they're certainly a danger to their neighbors or anyone that dares say a reasonable thing out loud near them in a grocery store aisle or parking lot. The president of the united states incited a mob to march to a place where his passing from power was being certified and attempt to prevent that process, so that the president could illegally continue to stay in power. It's a loving coup attempt, come on man, there is not a sign that says "THERE MUST BE AT LEAST THIS > < MANY TANKS FOR A COUP ATTEMPT" on Pennsylvania Ave.
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Fortaleza posted:I'm not defending them! I want these loving freaks nailed to the wall. They're not and never were a danger to our government or its members but they're certainly a danger to their neighbors or anyone that dares say a reasonable thing out loud near them in a grocery store aisle or parking lot. literally zero people you are arguing with in this thread want the patriot act 2 or whatever, we're saying that when a bunch of nazis try to overthrow the government (even if they do it poorly) then the government should mete out justice to them and their leaders. in a perfect world we would have a more restorative justice and reconciliation process because the overwhelming majority of these people are dumbass jetski dealers and grifters but in lieu of that then we should at least demonstrate that it's actually a bad thing to try and murder politicians, even those you disagree with.
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The president and his lawyer literally spent time calling individual Senators to ask them to delay the process as much as possible so that the mob would have more time to reach the Senate chambers.
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Oneiros posted:jesus christ you folks eat this poo poo up Sagebrush posted:lmao it's been a while since I've seen a genuine puppetmaster defense
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Feb 12, 2021 22:25
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Oneiros posted:got invited to the facebook event for the coup, showing up hoping someone else is actually doing the coup but seriously just imagine that each individual was prepared to coup but was reliant on the crowd to make the transition from not a coup to coup but the crowd itself couldn’t pull it together whether or not it was a coup, will you or fortalezza rice concede that at least some people who were there wanted it to be one?
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Fortaleza posted:I'm not defending them! I want these loving freaks nailed to the wall. They're not and never were a danger to our government or its members but they're certainly a danger to their neighbors or anyone that dares say a reasonable thing out loud near them in a grocery store aisle or parking lot. the risk was never from this particular mob directly, because, again, they were uncoordinated morons. the risk is that there are no consequences for inciting the mob; anyone who wants to effect an actual successful coup now knows that they can just keep trying until it works. and in order to create suitable consequences for this coup attempt, you have to acknowledge that it was a coup attempt.
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Fortaleza posted:I'm not defending them! I want these loving freaks nailed to the wall. They're not and never were a danger to our government or its members but they're certainly a danger to their neighbors or anyone that dares say a reasonable thing out loud near them in a grocery store aisle or parking lot. actually there is only two sides : josef mengele and captain america. which one are you.. which are you???
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Feb 12, 2021 22:29
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echinopsis posted:but seriously just imagine that each individual was prepared to coup but was reliant on the crowd to make the transition from not a coup to coup but the crowd itself couldn’t pull it together in the same way that every time i hear about a group protesting outside bezos' house i have a little hope that someone brought a guillotine, sure
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Oneiros posted:in the same way that every time i hear about a group protesting outside bezos' house i have a little hope that someone brought a guillotine, sure i have some serious doubts about the quality of construction here. i just don't think that's going to be able to do the job
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infernal machines posted:i have some serious doubts about the quality of construction here. look, intent is all that matters. we must consider what was in the perpetrator's hearts when they erected that guillotine outside a highly respected member of the community's home
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Feb 12, 2021 22:36
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I, too, remember when people stormed Jeff Bezos's house and killed five people
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infernal machines posted:i have some serious doubts about the quality of construction here.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I, too, remember when people stormed Jeff Bezos's house and killed five people i love how people keep saying "killed five people". it's some fine newspeak
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:I, too, remember when people stormed Jeff Bezos's house and killed five people hey now, if they "stormed" did they literally evaporate, form chud clouds, and fall after condensation onto congress? i don't think so. checkmate.
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Oneiros posted:in the same way that every time i hear about a group protesting outside bezos' house i have a little hope that someone brought a guillotine, sure if say 10% were prepared for coup but not the rest./ at what % of the proportion of the population does it officially break down into a legit soup
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echinopsis posted:if say 10% were prepared for coup but not the rest./ a coup-like homogenate
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executed a soft coup in the terlet earlier thanks to too much brandy and schnapps last night
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echinopsis posted:if say 10% were prepared for coup but not the rest./ given the amount of cholesterol and corn involved i'd call it more of a chowder
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Fortaleza posted:I'm not defending them! I want these loving freaks nailed to the wall. They're not and never were a danger to our government or its members but they're certainly a danger to their neighbors or anyone that dares say a reasonable thing out loud near them in a grocery store aisle or parking lot. Wow, it's been a fuckin' long time since i've seen the darfur clause
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AOC was hiding in a bathroom from the rioters who wanted to kill her and other Dems and make the rest say Trump is president forever, and this distinction matters because
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lament.cfg posted:AOC was hiding in a bathroom from the rioters who wanted to kill her and other Dems and make the rest say Trump is president forever, and this distinction matters because apparently because calling this a coup attempt would somehow diminish the gravity of the next coup attempt, you know, when they get serious about it
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lament.cfg posted:AOC was hiding in a bathroom from the rioters who wanted to kill her and other Dems and make the rest say Trump is president forever, and this distinction matters because u know how she said somerthing about gamestop and tom cruz jumped in and said "what she said" and she said "um you tried to murder me two days ago" like did he really or..
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echinopsis posted:u know how she said somerthing about gamestop and tom cruz jumped in and said "what she said" and she said "um you tried to murder me two days ago" like did he really or.. Cruz and other high level Republicans were absolutely involved in some fashion. A junior Republican house member, Lauren Boebert, was live-tweeting the speaker of the house's whereabouts through the event.
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Feb 13, 2021 00:26
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hmmm similar to a coup but nottttt quite
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Feb 13, 2021 00:27
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so close like, drat. so close
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Feb 13, 2021 00:27
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a coupette coupito? couplet wait that's already a thing
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If it was on a Tuesday or a Thursday it would have been a coup, but everyone knows you can't have coups on Wednesdays, so it was just a riot.
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Fortaleza posted:I'm not defending them! I want these loving freaks nailed to the wall. They're not and never were a danger to our government or its members right, this guy with at least one handgun, a fistful of zip-cuffs, and body armor covered with punisher skulls and thin blue line poo poo was just there to have a lively debate with ilhan and aoc. 
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