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MonsieurChoc posted:Honestly this game reminds me a lot of Vampire: Bloodlines before the patches. That game has a billion times more depth than Cyberpunk, although I didn't play that when it came out. Was all the story stuff and different paths you could take added later in patches? Does it not still require some arcane magic and community patches to get it working?
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Funky See Funky Do posted:That game has a billion times more depth than Cyberpunk, although I didn't play that when it came out. Was all the story stuff and different paths you could take added later in patches? Oh no, all that was stuff was mostly there at the start. Bloodlines gets railroady in the back-half. But it was very buggy on release, to the point it was impossible to complete. You crashed to desktop at the end of a mandatory mission.
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Feb 14, 2021 01:35
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Earwicker posted:ive seen ai using grenades pretty frequently but they are usually aimed very carelessly, almost entirely randomly It took me about 2 minutes to get the achievement where your shoot one out of the air with a revolver, and I think they’re reasonably accurate if you’re completely stationary. If they’re that inaccurate, I almost bet they’re throwing them toward your previous locations.
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Feb 14, 2021 01:45
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MonsieurChoc posted:Honestly this game reminds me a lot of Vampire: Bloodlines before the patches. Lol. Vampire was alot more fun and finished!
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Feb 14, 2021 02:13
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Tenzarin posted:Lol. Vampire was alot more fun and finished! VTMB did give the player a lot more illusion about the choices they made though, for sure
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Feb 14, 2021 02:29
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Tenzarin posted:Lol. Vampire was alot more fun and finished! It's not a 1:1 comparison lol. Edit: I really like Fem!V. How's the male version? Mostly the voice acting since they'r eprobably 100% the same otherwise.
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Feb 14, 2021 02:45
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MonsieurChoc posted:It's not a 1:1 comparison lol. It's fine but definitely more generic computer game action personality. FemV works better with Johnny Silverhand for some reason IMO
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Feb 14, 2021 02:57
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MonsieurChoc posted:It's not a 1:1 comparison lol. I prefer the male V voice actor a lot more. I want female V to be a lot more direct and assertive. It's hard to articulate but she gets weirdly "pouty" occasionally and I find it really jarring; especially when you're flipping back and fourth between various options. To me, it'll sound like you're whining/begging for a piece of information one second, and then your character just flips a switch and will be purely assertive again. Admittedly, that might be just how I prefer my female V to be though. Most others I know who've finished the game prefer her.
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Feb 14, 2021 03:14
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TheAgent posted:And you're saying the company with the years of experience creating bosses and encounters from W3, suddenly needs to relearn all those mistakes they supposedly learned half a decade ago? Because now the game is in first person? C'mon, man. It was just rushed the gently caress out and not tested or playtested properly. It's almost like... encounters designed for 3rd person hack and slash gameplay... aren't the same as first person shooters. Encounter design is complete different in an FPS. The way they have to be programmed is completely different. Those ideas just don't translate well. They had a poo poo ton of time to work on them in this, and I do think the boss fights could have been better, but I also don't expect to see anything made as well as the last boss fight they made for a game they worked on as relentlessly as they did W3, especially since they've changed genres. C'mon man, there are maybe 3 encounters in W3 outside of the expansions I can't just run through. It's not hard either, and the talents don't matter that much. The only real difference WRT fighting bosses is that they are mostly giant sacks of hitpoints in Witcher, and they do the dark souls multiple phases thing. That works great in a fantasy game, but not something that fits within Cyberpunk as a genre.
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Feb 14, 2021 03:35
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Male V is very much playing a generic-cool-guy 80's action movie type, straight down the middle. It actually worked really well in the playthrough I did with him, since my character had short, spiky hair and constantly wore kickass cyber-sunglasses and trench coats.
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Feb 14, 2021 04:10
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MonsieurChoc posted:Honestly this game reminds me a lot of Vampire: Bloodlines before the patches. I get what you're going for and as a person who only just recently played Bloodlines for the first time last year there is definitely a ton of shared DNA not just in the gameplay, but in the characterizations
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Feb 14, 2021 04:16
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I like the way male V says Jyaackie.
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Feb 14, 2021 04:18
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If I do a second playthourgh (lol) it will be a Nomad Male!V, very Mad Maxian. But I'm loving angry citygirl V.
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Feb 14, 2021 04:18
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MonsieurChoc posted:If I do a second playthourgh (lol) it will be a Nomad Male!V, very Mad Maxian. I enjoyed de-programmed former Corpo who's developed a conscience and sees Night City as the pile of bullshit that it is female V in my 3rd playthrough. That's why she naturally gave up on Night City and left with the Nomads and Judy to start a new life in Arizona.
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Feb 14, 2021 04:45
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Vagabundo posted:I enjoyed de-programmed former Corpo who's developed a conscience and sees Night City as the pile of bullshit that it is female V in my 3rd playthrough. Funny how de-programmed former Corpo V is exactly the same as rebel-without-a-cause Nomad V who is exactly the same as street wise smooth talking Street Kid V.
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Feb 14, 2021 04:52
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Funny how de-programmed former Corpo V is exactly the same as rebel-without-a-cause Nomad V who is exactly the same as street wise smooth talking Street Kid V. yeah. thats my issue with it. that being said. the nomad ending feels alot better with ex-corpo V than anyone else.
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Feb 14, 2021 05:01
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Blastedhellscape posted:Male V is very much playing a generic-cool-guy 80's action movie type, straight down the middle. It actually worked really well in the playthrough I did with him, since my character had short, spiky hair and constantly wore kickass cyber-sunglasses and trench coats. I actually really liked this a lot because I felt like V probably raised himself in front of the TV. Dude has no family or friends to speak of. He was probably just holed up in a megatower/trailer/whatever for the better part of his life watching Jean Claude Van Damme films and poo poo.
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Feb 14, 2021 05:32
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CDPR’s source code has been sold by hackers for millions worth of crypto, and honestly if that’s not the most cyberpunk thing to happen this year I’ll be pretty surprised. Also the difficulty curve issues, I think, are compounded by how many perks don’t seem to work. Like, my unstoppable Netrunner V is supposed to be even stronger and more explosive, but I could never get the capstone perks to trigger. A perk pass and a new difficulty setting (or a repass on the AI to make difficulty work differently) would be my top priorities.
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Feb 14, 2021 13:50
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What they're gonna do with the code? Exploits? It's a game, not even multiplayer. Crack copy protection? What copy protection? I'm honestly puzzled why some third party would want to pay for it, even if crypto. Maybe fix some parts of the game and publish the patches anonymously, while slipping trojans within them.
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Feb 14, 2021 14:31
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Combat Pretzel posted:What they're gonna do with the code? Exploits? It's a game, not even multiplayer. Crack copy protection? What copy protection? I'm honestly puzzled why some third party would want to pay for it, even if crypto. Maybe fix some parts of the game and publish the patches anonymously, while slipping trojans within them. They could fix the game.
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Feb 14, 2021 14:33
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If you're in China you can make some minor adjustments and sell it as it's own game.
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Feb 14, 2021 14:33
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Having CDPR's code out there in the wild for everyone to poke around in basically means that CDPR's security is compromised... basically forever? Or at least until they completely restructure their code base?
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Feb 14, 2021 14:35
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Bust Rodd posted:Having CDPR's code out there in the wild for everyone to poke around in basically means that CDPR's security is compromised... basically forever? Or at least until they completely restructure their code base?
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Feb 14, 2021 14:35
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Solice Kirsk posted:I'm kinda disappointed. I was a total rear end in a top hat to Judy and Evelyn the entire game and it basically changed nothing at all. Act 2 spoilers Judy still tells me I'm a good person and Evelyn would have trusted me if she got to know me and then invites me a long for her Clouds thing. Man Judy, I did nothing but insult you and Evelyn, tried to interogate her during her rescue, and then complained about the quality of BDs you got out of your friend's skull. Tell me to gently caress the hell off damnit!
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Feb 14, 2021 14:36
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To be honest, if you excuse literally everything else, the Voodoo boys "choice" having no impact on the story's narrative is inexcusable. It's presented with the same agency as Jackie bleeding out in the car.
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Feb 14, 2021 14:40
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PerilPastry posted:I can forgive everything about the game except the lack of choices and reactivity. It's such a massive step down compared to the character interactions and quests of Witcher 3 Some reason there's a big plot point that v is dying but there is no countdown timer or anything. You could live forever in night city and v is in no danger of having him brain chip kill him.
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Feb 14, 2021 14:50
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I wonder how much will CDPR stock go down tomorrow after the sold source code news. gently caress, I hope all this poo poo combined won't kill the company.
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Feb 14, 2021 15:09
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Palpek posted:I wonder how much will CDPR stock go down tomorrow after the sold source code news. gently caress, I hope all this poo poo combined won't kill the company. I mean, Cyberpunk 2077 sold a shitload of copies, even with refunds. CDPR isn't in the best situation, but I genuinely doubt they are risking failures. Maybe this will put enough pressure on management to cause a shake-up, but I doubt even that.
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Feb 14, 2021 15:24
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I dunno, according to Ars Technica it was a case of "We totes legit sold the code to our girlfriend in Canada, you wouldn't know her. No, you can't see the receipt." e: Now with spicy link-to-the-article-in-question action!
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Feb 14, 2021 15:29
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There will be a ton of DLSS and Raytracing free to play games coming out of China and Russia I figure for the next 5 years. If the code is bad enough to read though it’ll take that long to figure out how to compile a full production binary anywhere other than a crappy Jenkins server.
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Feb 14, 2021 15:45
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DLSS is available as a free plug-in on UE4 now, but before then, the implementation IIRC required developers to make sure that NVidia could elaborate high-resolution images from their game before the algorithm could be plugged in and work properly.
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Feb 14, 2021 15:48
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inscrutable horse posted:I dunno, according to Ars Technica it was a case of "We totes legit sold the code to our girlfriend in Canada, you wouldn't know her. No, you can't see the receipt." Gotta agree. Who the hell would pay a decent sum of money, never mind millions for it. What would be the point, what could you hope to do with it that wouldn't get you in a whole heap of legal trouble the moment you tried anything with it. And what would even that anything even be.
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Feb 14, 2021 17:15
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Deptfordx posted:Gotta agree. Who the hell would pay a decent sum of money, never mind millions for it. Yeah, it's even DRM free so the obvious "remove the DRM and sell pirated copies" explanation isn't even valid. There's no way the source code is of any tangible value to anyone outside of CDPR.
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Feb 14, 2021 17:28
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Hackers are gonna put back in all the cool stuff that was cut at the last minute according to that reddit post!!
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Feb 14, 2021 17:31
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Bust Rodd posted:To be honest, if you excuse literally everything else, the Voodoo boys "choice" having no impact on the story's narrative is inexcusable. It's presented with the same agency as Jackie bleeding out in the car. Don't get me started The game wouldn't even let me shoot the two VBs outside the mall. I did some sightseeing in Pacifica right after and I made a point of blasting every single group of VBs i encountered along the way. And when I get back to their hq? No reaction, just "Oops, you're alive, step into our computer"
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exquisite tea posted:Hackers are gonna put back in all the cool stuff that was cut at the last minute according to that reddit post!! "My goodness, the police actually *chase* you and accept bribes now!" 
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Bust Rodd posted:CDPR’s source code has been sold by hackers for millions worth of crypto, and honestly if that’s not the most cyberpunk thing to happen this year I’ll be pretty surprised. literally no proof it was sold, just the word of the thieves Most everyone assumes they saved face by saying it was sold before their auction began, which to me makes sense, they were really hoping to make money off of the ransom and not selling it because who is gonna buy it for real? no one
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Feb 14, 2021 19:29
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I know nothing of software development, but wouldn't you be able to use the source code to rip off the game engine and then build tons of games off a hacked version of CDPR's engine and change it just enough to get around copywrite issues? If so then a million bucks compared to years of development time or having to pay licensing fees would seem like a decent idea.
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Feb 14, 2021 20:06
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Deptfordx posted:Gotta agree. Who the hell would pay a decent sum of money, never mind millions for it. I honestly just assume Russia or China stole it and pretended to sell it to another buyer so fewer people suspect a nation state did it.
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Solice Kirsk posted:I know nothing of software development, but wouldn't you be able to use the source code to rip off the game engine and then build tons of games off a hacked version of CDPR's engine and change it just enough to get around copywrite issues? If so then a million bucks compared to years of development time or having to pay licensing fees would seem like a decent idea. who the gently caress would want to build anything off their engine and it’s still their IP even if it’s stolen and modified
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