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After everything we've been through, and what some people thought was the point of making a core set with a bunch of different cards, Gadgetzan Auctioneer survives again.
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I've played Hearthstone on and off since 2014 and I actually legit, cannot recall a time where Rogue was considered bad.
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Feb 25, 2021 19:52
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pretty interesting. I'm looking forward to this. glad to see they finally removed neutral charges. how does the core set interact with cards that were previously from packs and dustable? could I dust, say, brightwing and baron geddon now, since I'm not using them and will get free copies in the core set? is the only downside that I won't have those cards any more when the core set changes next year, or is there more?
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Feb 25, 2021 19:52
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So Jaraxxus hero power is apparently the same, and he gains five armor instead of putting you to 15 life....... not a fan of this change.
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Feb 25, 2021 19:56
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Wild Pyromancer is dead. Long live Wild Pyro.
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Feb 25, 2021 19:57
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Wild Pyromancer is dead. Long live Wild Pyro. One of the first things I looked for. Also Doomsayer is missing. Why does Blizzard hate me and my control priest dreams?
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Feb 25, 2021 20:01
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World War Mammories posted:pretty interesting. I'm looking forward to this. That's it, yea. For 2014 Classic/Basic cards in the same situation, you also would need the crafted versions to play them in Classic Mode, regardless of their membership in the Core Set.
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Feb 25, 2021 20:09
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Taken from Hearthpwn whilst the Blizzard page is chugging, here's every Core card:
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Feb 25, 2021 20:18
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Wow some pretty interesting stuff going on with all the small changes and new cards...might actually play standard after rotation to escape secret mage and tickatus Also rogue does look grim at first glance but don't forget that we're also getting a new expansion of cards and that rear end blade+poison+tox lady and the new neutral pirate+step is a win con No Wave posted:Warrior got that improbably popular card shieldbearer. 
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Feb 25, 2021 20:23
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Taken from Hearthpwn whilst the Blizzard page is chugging, here's every Core card: I’m not getting the distinction between shadow and fel spells
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Feb 25, 2021 20:24
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Cry Havoc posted:I’m not getting the distinction between shadow and fel spells One is green and one is purple duh
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Feb 25, 2021 20:24
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World War Mammories posted:pretty interesting. I'm looking forward to this. From what I understand, anything in the core set is basically loaned to you, if something falls out of the core set in the future you'll need to own the card to continue to use it. Cry Havoc posted:I’m not getting the distinction between shadow and fel spells It's just a difference in lore with the tl:dr being Fel is demon magic while Shadow is old god magic No Wave posted:So Jaraxxus hero power is apparently the same, and he gains five armor instead of putting you to 15 life....... not a fan of this change.  Honestly I wish they did more hero cards like old Jaraxxus that set you at a specific health so there was some depth to "when do I transform".
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Feb 25, 2021 20:25
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Tin Tim posted:Also rogue does look grim at first glance but don't forget that we're also getting a new expansion of cards and that rear end blade+poison+tox lady and the new neutral pirate+step is a win con not to mention that secret passage, swindle, and cutting class are staying in.. as long as rogue has those tools it will be a force
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Feb 25, 2021 20:31
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All these changes definitely give them way more flexibility to redefine and update the 'class identities'. I could even the see the identities evolve over time, eg they could bring a new mage in with the next classic rotation instead of jaina and so on. I don't know enough about wow to know who the characters are but they could do a year with all the frost spells and then a year with all the fire spells for example.
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Feb 25, 2021 20:33
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Wrath, Ancient of Lore and Starfire are out. Flare is gone as is Starving Buzzard. Blessing of Wisdom, Hammer of Wrath, Holy Wrath and Lay on Hands have ascended. Sprint is improved but Rogue drops both Shiv and Fan of Knives. Far Sight can be seen no longer. Battle Rage, Commanding Shout and Shield Block are in the graveyard. Novice Engineer, Cult Master, Gnomish Inventor, Harrison Jones and, of course, Nat Pagle have all moved to a big farm upstate with plenty of room to run around. Card draw is going to be largely unavailable for most classes is what I'm saying.
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Feb 25, 2021 20:34
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Hmm, I'm wondering what the expansion is gonna do for Mage, because while I think that Spell Damage deck is actually quite good, playing it without SA, Frostbolt or Arcane Missles? Yeesh
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Feb 25, 2021 20:35
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Caire (and Baine) got a random +1 attack buff.
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Feb 25, 2021 20:39
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sirtommygunn posted:It's just a difference in lore with the tl:dr being Fel is demon magic while Shadow is old god magic so is ritual of doom as a shadow spell a mistake then?
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Feb 25, 2021 20:47
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Cry Havoc posted:so is ritual of doom as a shadow spell a mistake then? Lol ok nevermind this person is right: Orange Crush Rush posted:One is green and one is purple duh
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Feb 25, 2021 20:48
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There's a lot less draw in these. Gonna take some time to digest, but it definitely seems like its aimed to encourage midrangeness again.
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Feb 25, 2021 21:03
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It's really tough to get a context for this until the new expansion drops. That's gonna be a whole lot of cards.
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Feb 25, 2021 21:04
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Fel is edgelord demons and Shadow is edgelord death and darkness. If there are Demons that get sacrificed for the darkness I guess we're just screwed.
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Feb 25, 2021 21:06
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One card I find interesting is the new Paladin card "Pursuit of Justice". Outside of spells like Shadowform that change a hero power, it seems rare for a spell rather than a battlecry to grant a board aura effect for the rest of the game. Kind of like a permanent enchantment, but played once rather than sitting on the board like in MtG.
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Feb 25, 2021 21:12
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Oh Guardian of Kings got +1 health and taunt, might actually be playable now.
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Feb 25, 2021 21:13
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AnacondaHL posted:Fel is edgelord demons and Shadow is edgelord death and darkness. The WoD version of Hellfire Citadel had a boss that was basically this
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Feb 25, 2021 21:18
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Definitely impressed by the number of buffed cards. Big Game Hunter is now 4 mana. As for card choices there's some good, some bad, but the most baffling to me is some of the neutrals. Ice Rager? Humongus Razorleaf?? King Mukla??? Also Noz is a meme card right? 7 mana 8/8 but the game turns into a shitshow if your opponent also has it. RatHat fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Feb 25, 2021 21:42
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Stonetusk Boar has rush and not charge, the game should be cancelled. Edit: also, Illidari inquisitor is 8 extra damage to face if DH already has weapon from the previous turn? Seems nuts?
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Feb 25, 2021 21:45
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RatHat posted:Also Noz is a meme card right? 7 mana 8/8 but the game turns into a shitshow if your opponent also has it. I might try running it just because I hate when opponents in trash-tier silver/gold take forever on every turn
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Feb 25, 2021 21:46
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Oh poo poo, didn't realize Tracking got changed to "discover a card from your deck". That is like auto-include-2-copies-in-every-deck tier Edit: yeah, I know there was a benefit to the discard, but I always hated it and pure aggro decks that wanted to discard 4 gandlethorpe fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Feb 25, 2021 21:47
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kaaj posted:Stonetusk Boar has rush and not charge, the game should be cancelled. Especially since Warglaives is back to 5 mana. It’s going to be hilariously strong.
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Feb 25, 2021 21:49
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Felsoul Jailer+Ironbeak Owl is going to be really funny. EDIT: Oh I guess new Noz allows for speed game tournaments where every deck needs to have Noz. This’ll probably be a brawl too. EDIT2: If you’re at 8 or less health you’re probably dead because every deck will be running Alex. RatHat fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Feb 25, 2021 21:50
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RatHat posted:As for card choices there's some good, some bad, but the most baffling to me is some of the neutrals... Humongus Razorleaf?? SILENCE PRIEST RIDES AGAIN
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Feb 25, 2021 22:00
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RatHat posted:As for card choices there's some good, some bad, but the most baffling to me is some of the neutrals. Humongus Razorleaf?? Razorleaf is an interesting option with rebuffed Argus, plus the noted silence silliness. New Noz is going into all my decks. At worst it's a 7 mana 8/8, at best we get to play Turbo Hearthstone  Can we organise a Goon Tournament where Noz is a deck requirment? Cant Ride A Bus posted:Especially since Warglaives is back to 5 mana. It’s going to be hilariously strong. Between this and Equality at 3 Blizzard don't give a gently caress about Wild balance. Blooming Brilliant fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Feb 25, 2021 22:09
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I haven't read any reactions to the new cards yet, but I want to state that new Nozdormu will be in every single one of my decks, even aggro decks. Hail Nozdormu!
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Feb 25, 2021 22:55
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Razorleaf is an interesting option with rebuffed Argus, plus the noted silence silliness. Equality is in Odd Paladin. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?
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Feb 25, 2021 23:05
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Olpainless posted:Equality is in Odd Paladin. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW? Equality has been in Odd Paladin since Scholomance
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Feb 25, 2021 23:18
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Equality has been in Odd Paladin since Scholomance I thought they didn't run Barov due to the Deathrattle possibly backfiring a board of dudes, or was that a null factor?
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Feb 25, 2021 23:20
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2 copies and no backfire is better than 1 copy that can wreck your own board.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:25
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I can't really figure out what Mage is supposed to do now with their core set. Control mage lost all its AOE freeze, and a 1 damage buff to Flamestrike doesn't make up for that. The legendary points to maybe a spell damage focused tempo deck, but Mage's burn is basically just Fireball now. They still have a decent secret package, but you need something alongside that to actually win games.
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enki42 posted:I can't really figure out what Mage is supposed to do now with their core set. Control mage lost all its AOE freeze, and a 1 damage buff to Flamestrike doesn't make up for that. The legendary points to maybe a spell damage focused tempo deck, but Mage's burn is basically just Fireball now. They still have a decent secret package, but you need something alongside that to actually win games.
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