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The dumbest counter I’ve seen so far was the snakey boi in the Beastmaster fight countering singing. Like bro, for real? I just braved three times to use singing skills and now my bard is dead, cool. Then again I had a cat once who loving hated singing, when we would sing happy birthday he would come into the room and yowl loudly and then bite people.
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Impermanent posted:You need a hidden puzzle piece to make this work: Thanks for this post, are you saying that Salve maker's damage is boosted by thief's item damage amp? It sounds like i need to just push through and get to the end of the chapter. Right now, I have my mage double fisting rods of fire or ice depending on the situation, which has been a decent bandaid so far. Red mage felt really mediocre even with the second specialty but maybe status-conscious helps out with this.
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Mar 5, 2021 14:57
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:The sheer amount of counters bosses and their friends have are ridiculous, I agree. It might not be so terrible if they triggered less often or even if when you examined the enemies their counters showed up as part of the info. You get an accessory for getting all the cards It boosts JP/pg by the number of games played.I don't know the factor it multiplies by
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Mar 5, 2021 16:39
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The Shame Boy posted:I think the worst kind of counter is "Counter: Any Ability" and it just gives the boss a free BP point. Considering the most damage they will do at any time is when they decide to Default up a bunch of unleash hell on your party. In normal circumstances you can see it coming since they will just stop everything and start defaulting a bunch in a row.If you happen to get unlucky and they get that counter a bunch on a row as you're struggling to raise and heal for example though? All that effort will be down the drain as they suddenly go ham on you. There are quite a few abilities that allow you to reduce an enemies BP.
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Mar 5, 2021 16:42
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I don't know why they would include chain battles for leveling and then make it so frustrating to actually set any up with more than a couple enemies at once. Trying to wrangle enemies together is a nightmare, and then when you use your food you end up pulling something just far enough away from the group wasting all your effort.
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Mar 5, 2021 17:09
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Josuke Higashikata posted:There are also some mushroom enemies in a story required dungeon in Chapter 2 and if you have gambler's rare drop up on all your characters they drop magic attack up buns very consistently. As a heads up, most random enemies have buns as either their rare drop or their rare steal. Running through the game with rare drop increases and some AOE stealing ends up netting you massive amounts of stat increases of various types.
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Mar 5, 2021 18:43
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Any benefit of having Nintendo Online for this?
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Mar 5, 2021 19:29
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Wow Godspeed Strike is obscenely powerful, I almost singlehandedly destroyed the Archer asterisk with one character by doing a Brave x4 of it.GreenBuckanneer posted:Any benefit of having Nintendo Online for this? There's an online component that works while you have the game in sleep mode that randomly grants you permanent stat boosting items(which also works offline, but supposedly doesn't grant you as much loot), but that's it so far, they don't seem to have carried over Abilink or any of the other idle minigames from Bravely Default/Second, sadly.
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Mar 5, 2021 19:39
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PageMaster posted:I don't know why they would include chain battles for leveling and then make it so frustrating to actually set any up with more than a couple enemies at once. Trying to wrangle enemies together is a nightmare, and then when you use your food you end up pulling something just far enough away from the group wasting all your effort. The secret is to chase weak enemies into a corner then pop the item. Still seems like you need 7+ enemies to get 10 fights even at night which is annoying.
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Mar 5, 2021 20:07
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How do you even have that much mana? I can usually only Godspeed Strike twice, maybe three times, a-fore I'm out.
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Mar 5, 2021 20:07
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Okay I am officially over how ridiculously long these dungeons are. Dungeons should not take more than two loving hours to do. There is absolutely no excuse for poo poo like this, you could literally cut two thirds out of these things and achieve the same result. I've spent an hour and a half wandering through identikit corridors with no minimap and it's just not fun. Maybe, maybe your final dungeon takes that long, but these things are the size of Persona 5 palaces but a tenth as interesting and there are four times as many of them.
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Mar 5, 2021 20:13
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Evil Fluffy posted:The secret is to chase weak enemies into a corner then pop the item. Still seems like you need 7+ enemies to get 10 fights even at night which is annoying. That's what lure food is for. Corral people into the corner, then pop a lure food and go off.
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Natural 20 posted:Okay I am officially over how ridiculously long these dungeons are. what dungeons are you referring to? i've sped through all of them in like, 30 minutes so far
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Mar 5, 2021 20:24
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Just entered the cave dungeon in chapter 1 and man I would loving kill for a loving minimap
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Mar 5, 2021 20:28
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Man the rewards for slogging through that mansion in chapter 1 are nonexistent.
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Mar 5, 2021 20:29
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Chapter 3 ice cave 1, chapter 3 pit and chapter 3 tower are the most recent offenders. Edit: Chapter 3 tower, I started at 5pm my time and finished the play session at 7pm and I've hit the halfway warp. It's absolutely mad. Others include Chapter 1 cave, Chapter 2 sewer. All of these have clocked in at well above two hours, playing on hard and fighting everything, no grinding. Additionally the levelling curve is completely hosed because I fight everything and skip nothing and I've been in constant underdog since the beginning of Chapter 3. Natural 20 fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Mar 5, 2021 |
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Mar 5, 2021 20:31
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Oh my loving god I somehow just got turned around in this cave dungeon and undid about a third of my progress because there's no loving minimap to help me keep track of side paths aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa edit: okay I wasn't set back as far as I thought, especially since I can just run past enemies, but still: minimaps. they're good. I would like them Color Printer fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Mar 5, 2021 |
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Mar 5, 2021 21:03
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Finished off the true ending just shy of 40 hours on the clock. What a game.  The shenanigans you can get up to with the endgame's features are just delightful.Natural 20 posted:Additionally the levelling curve is completely hosed because I fight everything and skip nothing and I've been in constant underdog since the beginning of Chapter 3. That really doesn't change, but that's also really superfluous because a good team steamrolls regardless. Also, consider just... not fighting poo poo.  Most of the enemies are not that hard to avoid.
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Mar 5, 2021 21:04
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Hammer Bro. posted:How do you even have that much mana? Some accessories (and maybe other gear as well, I'm not sure) gives you a ton of MP, plus one of the job abilities makes you use 20% less MP. Otherwise toss an ether in there somewhere as one of your actions.
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Mar 5, 2021 21:22
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Kyrosiris posted:Finished off the true ending just shy of 40 hours on the clock. What a game. I've been going around doing all the sidequests, identifying / trying to catch every monster, and trying to find treasure chests whenever possible and I'm at like 20 hours halfway through chapter 2, somehow. I guess that's how I'm mudstomping all the bosses so far that people ITT are having lots of trouble with.
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Mar 5, 2021 21:24
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Kyrosiris posted:Finished off the true ending just shy of 40 hours on the clock. What a game. Chapter 3 tower is a set of extremely narrow corridors with enemies that hurl themselves at you faster than your movespeed. It's very difficult to avoid them. A good team can smash but at this point everything is a 3000+ HP sponge. They survive a free BP punch so every combat takes a minimum of two rounds. I'd love to just skip everything at this point but I have no idea if that's going to get me to a breakpoint where I'm hosed on bosses.
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Mar 5, 2021 21:29
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Kyrosiris posted:Finished off the true ending just shy of 40 hours on the clock. 40 hours?! I'm nearing 15 hours and I'm still in chapter 1.
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Mar 5, 2021 21:40
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I'm working on Chapter 4 stuff and I'm trying to do all the side quests I can (the Jormungandr one is out of my level 61 range) and completely clear every area of treasure chests (I've had to look up a guide for some chests, especially one specific dungeon) and I'm at almost 58 hours. I'm also on vacation this week and I've basically only been playing this game. By the way, how many endings are there?
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Mar 5, 2021 23:05
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do u believe in marigolds posted:I'm working on Chapter 4 stuff and I'm trying to do all the side quests I can (the Jormungandr one is out of my level 61 range) and completely clear every area of treasure chests (I've had to look up a guide for some chests, especially one specific dungeon) and I'm at almost 58 hours. I'm also on vacation this week and I've basically only been playing this game. 3, and they need to be obtained in order
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Mar 5, 2021 23:24
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I was just trying to get a list of the names of the stats in this game without leaving my desk, but searching that has proved difficult. Everything seems to talk about jobs and abilities and there are a lot of top ten lists. Including Top 10 Classes for Elvis, where they talk about his jawline and what roles he'd be good at. They spend a whole bunch of words saying how his base stats complement the caster oriented classes and how he does better this-and-that than the other party members. We've confirmed that all the party members have identical base stats, yeah? And that that article is fake news spun from whole cloth, right? Except for the jawline bits.
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Mar 5, 2021 23:27
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Farg posted:3, and they need to be obtained in order Does that include Seth refusing the wind crystal?
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Hammer Bro. posted:We've confirmed that all the party members have identical base stats, yeah? And that that article is fake news spun from whole cloth, right? Almost every article like that on the super search-optimized sites is complete bullshit cranked out just to get something out there on Google for people to click on, yeah. That's true for nearly every even moderately-known game that comes out. AFAIK the characters have identical base stats so the only real "which character gets which job" thing to consider is how much you like how they look as that job.
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do u believe in marigolds posted:Does that include Seth refusing the wind crystal? no
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Mar 5, 2021 23:46
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I was kind of tolerating the Counter: All Abilities until that last Chapter 3 boss who just destroys you for nuking him.
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Mar 5, 2021 23:51
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Kyrosiris posted:Finished off the true ending just shy of 40 hours on the clock. I have 25 hours already and I'm on my way to last boss of Chapter 2
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I'm kind of just laughing now at how skewed the action economy is towards your enemies. I'm in chapter 6 and I'm pretty sure the bosses are getting like four turns to every one that my slower characters get. Though that is mainly due to the fact that everything has Counter: All Abilities which just gives them free BP.
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Mar 6, 2021 00:07
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Who are you people who speedrun rpgs lol
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Mar 6, 2021 00:10
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In the first Bravely Default game, I remember relying heavily on a team strategy that involved Salvemaker compounding items and some kind of self-poison gimmick that gave the team a ton of BP every round. I'm hoping there's some gamebreaking combos to build a team around in this game, but I'm only just reaching Chapter 3 now. When is Rank A possible in the B&D game? Seems to be locked by the storyline to some extent.
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Mar 6, 2021 00:34
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The pro-strat in Bravely Default was to equip that Red Mage(?) ability that gave a character 1 BP when they were afflicted by a negative status then having a Red Mage cast Poison on your whole party three times then Esuna to remove it. Then you could endlessly spam that Pirate attack that did 4x damage or Godspeed Strike or whatever.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:The pro-strat in Bravely Default was to equip that Red Mage(?) ability that gave a character 1 BP when they were afflicted by a negative status then having a Red Mage cast Poison on your whole party three times then Esuna to remove it. Then you could endlessly spam that Pirate attack that did 4x damage or Godspeed Strike or whatever. In BD1 it was a Red Mage sub Time Mage who would poison your entire party two to three times for BP and then Esuna or Reraise based on what you needed more. In BD2 it was using chef to spam your team with poison pies and then using the custom special system to generate more BP when you ran close to a BP deficit. But both of them had alternatives in the form of Performer/Mimic and Haste World/Spiritmaster. Here I've found one major battery strat so far with two permutations to it.
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Kyrosiris posted:Finished off the true ending just shy of 40 hours on the clock. What a game.
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Mar 6, 2021 02:04
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I'm in chapter 3 and the cave sure is a thing huh. Also what level are you supposed to be. I popped out into the land at level 28 and everything is spicy hot. It wasn't until I got to the cave boss (at 31) that things were 'normal' and that seems kinda bonkers. Also that boss was also really easy thank you godspeed strike ilu
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Mar 6, 2021 02:23
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Bravely 1 monk sub red mage with natural talent and phantom weapon lets you drop damage capped tier 1 black magic. Well bye
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Mar 6, 2021 02:25
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berserker with the no cost skills while raging passive is just bonkers af Seth is mowing down bosses and random encounters single-handedly while the rest of the party durdles doing whatever
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Speaking of berserker hot drat does the boss hit like a shitton of bricks. I know you can dispel his berserk with one of the freelancer skills but holy gently caress at everything else. Holy gently caress at his counters.
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