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Jenny Agutter posted:after Fisher relented on saying the "booyah" line Joss Whedon being bullied could've saved us a lot of awful content.
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Jenny Agutter posted:after Fisher relented on saying the "booyah" line That's such petty potshot towards Ray too, considering his theater background. Whedon is a huge loving bitch.
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Apr 7, 2021 00:11
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Mat Cauthon posted:Immensely lovely that Ray Fisher's career is going to be the only one to really take a hit here. Affleck once shut down production for 4 days because he refused to wear a Yankees hat and got his way so presumably he understands the power he wields, which is probably why Whedon didn't gently caress with him.
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Apr 7, 2021 00:28
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Mat Cauthon posted:Also pretty interesting that Affleck of all people tried to get the rest of the main cast to walk out in protest of Whedon's bullshit. Wouldn't have expected that. I would imagine his work with Matt Damon and Kevin Smith would predispose him to value the "family" unit that forms a cast but I do not know.
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Apr 7, 2021 00:33
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Also he’s kind of rowdy and the size of a door
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Apr 7, 2021 00:37
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I mean there's a good chance he's been an alcoholic while on set but he's also an experienced, award-winning writer & director in his own right so I imagine he knows how things are supposed to run and how people are supposed to be treated.
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Alexander Hamilton posted:I mean there's a good chance he's been an alcoholic while on set but he's also an experienced, award-winning writer & director in his own right so I imagine he knows how things are supposed to run and how people are supposed to be treated. As an actor Affleck has 77 acting credits listed in his imdb entry (with but one listing for multiple episodes of a TV show). It's not on the scale of some of the more prolific "get me to the catering table" actors but that is a loving ton and he's been active much longer than Whedon and under way more varied circumstances.
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Apr 7, 2021 00:52
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Affleck has worked with Terence Malick, John Frankenheimer, Gus Van Sant, Richard Linklater and Michael Bay so I doubt Joss Whedon is going to intimidate him.
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Apr 7, 2021 01:01
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Mat Cauthon posted:Immensely lovely that Ray Fisher's career is going to be the only one to really take a hit here. Why not? Along with being an actor, Affleck is a writer and a director (he directed Gone Baby Gone, The Town and Argo). He knows the difference between directing and bull-poo poo power-playing and he has enough standing to not be willing to put up with the latter - even if it wasn't directed at him.
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Apr 7, 2021 01:08
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I always thought the point of that speech in Hamlet was that Hamlet was being a ridiculous bore who goes about telling the players how to do their own job. Surprised to find this is not the universal interpretation.
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josh04 posted:I always thought the point of that speech in Hamlet was that Hamlet was being a ridiculous bore who goes about telling the players how to do their own job. Surprised to find this is not the universal interpretation. I thought it was Hamlet adding a bunch of bullshit to an already written play for the sake of petty revenge. Which fits Whedon loving up Justice League out of spite.
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Everyone posted:Why not? Along with being an actor, Affleck is a writer and a director (he directed Gone Baby Gone, The Town and Argo). He knows the difference between directing and bull-poo poo power-playing and he has enough standing to not be willing to put up with the latter - even if it wasn't directed at him. I did know the thing about him shutting down Gone Girl over the baseball cap, it's just kind of surprising that he'd be willing to take the hit on something like this but maybe that speaks to his character and standing in hollywood outside of the sensational tabloid stuff that tends to paint him as an oaf and/or cad who happens to be in good things from time to time. I guess it's no different than RDJ insisting on the rest of the Avengers cast getting a pay raise though. Fwiw Affleck is alright in my book and I thought he did a pretty good job wearing the cowl - I was definitely looking forward to seeing what his solo movie would've been like and getting more Jeremy Irons as Alfred. Can't blame him for walking away though.
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Everyone posted:Why not? Along with being an actor, Affleck is a writer and a director (he directed Gone Baby Gone, The Town and Argo). He knows the difference between directing and bull-poo poo power-playing and he has enough standing to not be willing to put up with the latter - even if it wasn't directed at him. He should have invited Bruce Willis on set for a day and then asked Whedon about camera lenses.
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josh04 posted:I always thought the point of that speech in Hamlet was that Hamlet was being a ridiculous bore who goes about telling the players how to do their own job. Surprised to find this is not the universal interpretation. After having watched half of his Much Ado about Nothing adaptation, I feel safe in saying that Whedon doesn't quite 'get' Shakespeare.
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Everyone posted:Why not? Along with being an actor, Affleck is a writer and a director (he directed Gone Baby Gone, The Town and Argo). He knows the difference between directing and bull-poo poo power-playing and he has enough standing to not be willing to put up with the latter - even if it wasn't directed at him. Yeah, he’s also won 2 Oscars (BP for Argo and Best Screenplay for Good Will Hunting.) If it’s a question of who has more credentials or power in the Hollywood machine, he’s not really someone Joss Whedon could intimidate. He’s also genuinely a better director. I like him far more as a director than an actor.
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He also said that one of the main reasons he took the job of Batman was to learn more about how to direct action movies from Zack Snyder. So he clearly has respect for Snyder. I imagine watching Whedon butcher Snyder's work pissed him off.
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Grendels Dad posted:After having watched half of his Much Ado about Nothing adaptation, I feel safe in saying that Whedon doesn't quite 'get' Shakespeare. “You lit all your shots so they’d work in black & white, huh? That’s great, Zack. You know, I have experience filming in black & white, too...”
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thrawn527 posted:He also said that one of the main reasons he took the job of Batman was to learn more about how to direct action movies from Zack Snyder. So he clearly has respect for Snyder. I imagine watching Whedon butcher Snyder's work pissed him off. I forgot that Affleck was gonna direct, too, now I kinda wanna see this.
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I mean...ok? Doesn’t do much for me. And Mark Millar is not a selling point to me lol. I think I’m kind of tired of cape poo poo.
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Interesting. They nailed the Quitely look for some characters. Looks like Iron Guy is the villain and the first season will leave off setting up Big Twist from issue 2/3. Honestly not sure they can sustain a whole season of just leadup but we'll see.
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Good casting on Brandon and Chloe. Let's see if the rest holds up.
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Let me guess: Half the cape people in this trailer are Actually Evil. Especially Super-Jesus.
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Bit non-plussed by the trailer as someone who hasn't read the comic. They're a family of superheroes and they're mad about the past, but not in a Watchmen sort of way? And slow-moving Iron Man is the villain at least briefly?
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Ehh, I'll watch it. But that was not a hype trailer lol.
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That trailer feels like someone was trying to get ahead of the "slow" complaints that will happen during character building moments. Just showing disjointed action reminiscent of better things so people might sit and look for other references.
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Grendels Dad posted:Let me guess: Half the cape people in this trailer are Actually Evil. Especially Super-Jesus. I'd be spoiling far too much to answer that in full, but Jupiter's Legacy is mostly not about good versus evil.
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I know absolutely nothing about the comic, but that trailer has me really interested in the show. It looks different than most other super hero stuff, and I legit don't know where the show will go, which is rare. I'm going to go out of my way to avoid spoilers from the comics to keep it that way, so yeah, I appreciate keeping it spoiler free in here, as much as is reasonable.
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Jedit posted:I'd be spoiling far too much to answer that in full, but Jupiter's Legacy is mostly not about good versus evil. Well now I want to know the spoilery answer!
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bushisms.txt posted:That trailer feels like someone was trying to get ahead of the "slow" complaints that will happen during character building moments. Just showing disjointed action reminiscent of better things so people might sit and look for other references. See having read the comic the amount of stuff they showed seems to indicate (spoilers for the comic) that they are going to drag poo poo way the gently caress out, since IIRC by the 3rd issue of the comic Superdad and Supermom are dead as hell. Unless they are just dumping a bunch from the first 2 or 3 episodes and we will still see that twist halfway-ish through the first season Also when I think of Jupiter's Legacy I can't help but think about Millar's critique of Man of Steel that only came to light years later when he was trying to sell another comic series as a response to MoS's nihilism. Anyway, he said MoS "traumatized" him, which I find suspicious since Jupiter's Legacy #3 released 2 months after Man of Steel features (again, comics spoilers) some children betraying and brutally murdering their parents who are basically Superman and his equally nice wife, including a particular gratuitous and over-the-top murder of Supermom
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Mark Millar wrote The Unfunnies, the most offensive comic book ever printed. And 3 years before MoS he wrote Nemesis, about an evil Batman pastiche who kidnapped his nemesis daughter and son, impregnated the daughter with the sons sperm and then booby trapped the womb so they couldn't abort it. Mark Millar can go gently caress himself with a rusty chainsaw
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Both Mark Millar's persona and Mark Millar's comically distasteful comics are just weird promotional tools for his movie writing career, rather than anything deeply held.
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I'm going to ask you to imagine every single "YIKES" and "OOF" Twitter image macro bouncing around the screen like the Solitaire cards. Holy cow.
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The "gay baby IED" or whatever from Nemesis was just preposterous, self parody gets no better.
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I feel like there's a Good Mark Millar and a Bad Mark Millar but even Good Mark Millar's stuff is like... B+ at best and comprises at most 1/3 of his work so it's maybe not worth sifting through Bad Mark Millar.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I feel like there's a Good Mark Millar and a Bad Mark Millar but even Good Mark Millar's stuff is like... B+ at best and comprises at most 1/3 of his work so it's maybe not worth sifting through Bad Mark Millar. Yeah agreed. I checked out JL (heh, just got this) for the Frank Quietly art and left with a bad Millar aftertaste in my mouth.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I feel like there's a Good Mark Millar and a Bad Mark Millar but even Good Mark Millar's stuff is like... B+ at best and comprises at most 1/3 of his work so it's maybe not worth sifting through Bad Mark Millar. The good Mark Millar is probably when he steals ideas from Grant Morrison So really it’s just bad Mark Millar
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Gatts posted:The good Mark Millar is probably when he steals ideas from Grant Morrison and Warren Ellis, yeah. Guy A. Person posted:Yeah agreed. I checked out JL (heh, just got this) for the Frank Quietly art and left with a bad Millar aftertaste in my mouth. yeah he baits you with the good artists. Starlight was one that was actually pretty worth it - mostly for the outstanding Goran Parlov art, but the writing wasn't, like, embarassing.
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