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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’m pretty sure at least Phantom Menace had a couple motion-control shots. They also got some of the veterans back to do a single motion-control shot of the Razor Crest in season 1.
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Everyone posted:Even if the copyright on MM expires, the trademark does not. So, sure, in 2023-2024 whatever you can now legally write your Mickey Mouse/H. P. Lovecraft magnum opus and sell it. But you can't you any visuals of the Mouse to sell it because it's still a trademark that is in use. At least that's the way I understand it. Would a trademark not require that it's drawn in a specific way? And that anything visually distinct from it wouldn't be objectionable? So Mickey drawn in that very specific Disney style would be trademarked, but Mickey drawn with more realistic proportions with 4 fingers instead of 3 and wearing different clothes or whatever wouldn't be?
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tsob posted:Would a trademark not require that it's drawn in a specific way? And that anything visually distinct from it wouldn't be objectionable? So Mickey drawn in that very specific Disney style would be trademarked, but Mickey drawn with more realistic proportions with 4 fingers instead of 3 and wearing different clothes or whatever wouldn't be? Bad time to reveal your OC Muckey Mouse.
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tsob posted:Would a trademark not require that it's drawn in a specific way? And that anything visually distinct from it wouldn't be objectionable? So Mickey drawn in that very specific Disney style would be trademarked, but Mickey drawn with more realistic proportions with 4 fingers instead of 3 and wearing different clothes or whatever wouldn't be? I imagine you're right. That's how it goes with Disney's other public domain trademarks like the Jungle Book and Cinderella.
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A droid is just a talking machine who cares if you break one, build another one
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howe_sam posted:The initial plan was a single motion-controlled Razor Crest shot, but once they built the thing they kept adding shots until eventually there were about 15 in the first season, and I think even more in the second? The BTS stuff around that is some of my favorite to come out from Mando, precisely because it let some of the old ILM hands go back to their roots. That's really cool, I didn't know they did motion control stuff with the Razor Crest! I'd love to read/see more about that. When I posted my question I meant to ask about the specific models... I'd heard before that there had been some motion control stuff for the prequels, but I was curious if Star Tours was the last hurrah for the physical X-Wing model.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:That's really cool, I didn't know they did motion control stuff with the Razor Crest! I'd love to read/see more about that. Here's the official ILM doc about motion controlled Razor Crest they put out after the first season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YuaIwVbEZo And here's a half hour of Adam Savage talking to John Knoll and John Goodson about the same thing on Zoom shortly before the second season premiered. You can practically see Adam vibrate with how giddy he is to be talking about ILM making models and doing motion-controlled shots again -- Adam, of course, worked with these guys on Phantom Menace and AotC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtGAiEQEIXE
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:That's really cool, I didn't know they did motion control stuff with the Razor Crest! I'd love to read/see more about that. Moff Gidion's cruiser from Season 2 is also motion control model shots, maybe not every one but I'd bet that most of the shots are model work since the thing isn't zooming around in action scenes like the Razor Crest did from time to time.
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Veotax posted:Moff Gidion's cruiser from Season 2 is also motion control model shots, maybe not every one but I'd bet that most of the shots are model work since the thing isn't zooming around in action scenes like the Razor Crest did from time to time. Yep:   Not the biggest model, but you could barely tell in the show itself  
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:That's really cool, I didn't know they did motion control stuff with the Razor Crest! I'd love to read/see more about that. The X-Wing(s) from the heist episode in season one was a full scale model that they used for filming, and then flew it to Orlando where it now resides on display at the Resistance base in Galaxy’s Edge. 
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Good. In addition to just having another great director work on the show, it’ll be fun just to watch clickbait chud heads explode trying to explain away their mortal nemesis’s involvement in their golden child show.
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Cross-Section posted:Yep: I really hope that means Din is gonna be balling in his new slightly used cruiser
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Spookydonut posted:I really hope that means Din is gonna be balling in his new slightly used cruiser I suspect that he's going to turn that over to Bo-Katan to use in The War and maybe get a ship that can be run by one person instead of needing hundreds or thousands (or at least dozens).
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I have long said that Rian is going to give this show it’s very own Ozymandias, and Star Wars Fans are going to rend themselves inside out to give it a Completely Objective 0/10 because the bad man who made the movie they didn’t like directed it. Bring it on.
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Apr 18, 2021 21:46
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What's the biggest ship in Star Wars that can be piloted by one person (and maybe a mute, telekinetic child?) Like if I was taking a stroll along the shore and came across a nuclear submarine that had a "Free to Take!" sign that'd be cool but I'd still need a whole crew to use it.
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Lobok posted:What's the biggest ship in Star Wars that can be piloted by one person (and maybe a mute, telekinetic child?) “By one person” is kind of a broad category, especially with the aide of droids involved. One of my favourite now non-canon details from the old EU was that Bossk’s ship, the Hound’s Tooth, was actually way too big to be crewed by just him, so he basically ripped the brain out of an astromech droid and hardwired it into like half its systems so he didn’t need a crew with him.
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Cross-Section posted:Yep:
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nine-gear crow posted:I have long said that Rian is going to give this show it’s very own Ozymandias, and Star Wars Fans are going to rend themselves inside out to give it a Completely Objective 0/10 because the bad man who made the movie they didn’t like directed it. Best part is, there's a very real chance that we don't actually know Rian's directing until the credits roll. I can very much imagine the bolded happening if it's an especially banger ep.
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Arquinsiel posted:I have no idea why beyond the extra thrusters, but that model "feels" twice as big as the ship in Rebels. There is definitely what feels like a change in scale. If only because in Rebels, the ship had to carry TIE interceptors in the gap in the "mandible" and had no internal hangar:      
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nine-gear crow posted:I have long said that Rian is going to give this show it’s very own Ozymandias, and Star Wars Fans are going to rend themselves inside out to give it a Completely Objective 0/10 because the bad man who made the movie they didn’t like directed it. It's an amazing thing to have a TV show one loves and to wait in spiteful anticipation for an episode to hate.
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Lobok posted:It's an amazing thing to have a TV show one loves and to wait in spiteful anticipation for an episode to hate. The real Death Star was the Star Wars fans we met along the way.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:There is definitely what feels like a change in scale. If only because in Rebels, the ship had to carry TIE interceptors in the gap in the "mandible" and had no internal hangar:
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Lobok posted:It's an amazing thing to have a TV show one loves and to wait in spiteful anticipation for an episode to hate. Because inventing things that haven't happened yet and commenting on them like they're the truth is more normal? I didn't like TLJ but that doesn't make me a chud, and if Rian does direct an episode then great, I look forward to it
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Butterfly Valley posted:I didn't like TLJ but that doesn't make me a chud No one said it did. Those posts were making light of the kinds of angry incel fanboys who’ve been frothing at the mouth about Rian, Kathleen Kennedy, and women in general on YouTube and the like for the last four years and act like The Mandalorian is some miracle “*~true Star Wars~*” brought about solely by Favreau and Filoni.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Because inventing things that haven't happened yet and commenting on them like they're the truth is more normal? I didn't say you were a chud, geez. Maybe SA is mostly and thankfully free of it but some of the hated and vitriol out there is wild.
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Lobok posted:I didn't say you were a chud, geez. Big Mean Jerk posted:No one said it did. Not this time, but there has been that trotted out before itt where disliking TLJ gets people equated with the lunatic nazi element. My main point though is it's just a rumour at this point and making comments in the present tense about totally imagined scenarios is pretty weird.
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Lobok posted:Like if I was taking a stroll along the shore and came across a nuclear submarine that had a "Free to Take!" sign that'd be cool but I'd still need a whole crew to use it. If all you're planning on doing is getting underway, you only need a handful of people. Two thirds of the crew is there to be off duty at any given time. Then you have all of the support roles that you don't need (Do you NEED cooks? You probably can't be ship's surgeon anyhow.). Officers are pretty redundant when you're just yelling at yourself. There's not a whole lot of people involved when all you want to do is 1) make sure reactor is reacting, 2) the screws are turning, and 3) point the boat in the direction you want it to go. Curiously, I've never heard anyone claim that the six or so guys driving the Red October was unrealistic and it seems like that would be an obvious thing to pick at.
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Lobok posted:What's the biggest ship in Star Wars that can be piloted by one person (and maybe a mute, telekinetic child?) If you don't mind delving into the old EU (now Legends) it's be one of the Katana Fleet Dreadnoughts. These were super automated and able to be commanded by as little as one person and there was a whole fleet of them linked together on one command net...which was a problem when the admiral in charge went insane from a bioweapon and took the whole fleet on a blind hyperspace jump to nowhere.  So arguably a Dreadnought or technically two hundred of them. 
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Big Mean Jerk posted:No one said it did. Those posts were making light of the kinds of angry incel fanboys who’ve been frothing at the mouth about Rian, Kathleen Kennedy, and women in general on YouTube and the like for the last four years and act like The Mandalorian is some miracle “*~true Star Wars~*” brought about solely by Favreau and Filoni. Yeah. I bet the Fandom Menaces goofs will have multiple videos in the week.
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nine-gear crow posted:I have long said that Rian is going to give this show it’s very own Ozymandias, and Star Wars Fans are going to rend themselves inside out to give it a Completely Objective 0/10 because the bad man who made the movie they didn’t like directed it. Or The Fly, which is good but divisive and hey I think we've been here before.
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I really think “Fly” only gets a bad rap because it’s a character-focused bottle episode that came right when the larger plot for that season had started to accelerate. I can kinda understand that being frustrating when it aired, but on rewatch it’s clearly one of Breaking Bad’s best episodes.
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Breaking Bad largely plotted like a well poised Rube Golberg machine. Rian's The Fly felt like it was interrupting that but was actually just the machine doing a cool trick. The sequel trilogy was like the Rube Golberg outakes of a bro youtuber attempt. Mando is one of their sons playing with cowboy toys in the corner of the warehouse who has made peace with neglect.
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Given the standalone nature of a fair few Mando episodes, letting Rian write one should be interesting At least he's not screwing up a 40-year-long legacy, right?
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Hazo posted:The X-Wing(s) from the heist episode in season one was a full scale model that they used for filming, and then flew it to Orlando where it now resides on display at the Resistance base in Galaxy’s Edge. Nah, the X-Wings in Mandalorian were the old school 4-engine kind, that's the Sequel trilogy two half-engine model.
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I believe they made several full scale or partial full scale (ie cockpit and nose only) OT-era T-65 X-Wings for Rogue One that have probably been reused in other projects. One of the very first leaks for Rogue One was also a full-scale X-Wing wreck painted in Saw’s Partisans scheme that apparently had its scene cut from the movie.
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jng2058 posted:If you don't mind delving into the old EU (now Legends) it's be one of the Katana Fleet Dreadnoughts. These were super automated and able to be commanded by as little as one person and there was a whole fleet of them linked together on one command net...which was a problem when the admiral in charge went insane from a bioweapon and took the whole fleet on a blind hyperspace jump to nowhere. They still need a strong smattering of technical and repair skills for long term operation, see outbound flight for similar dreadnoughts with similar levels of automation but needed skilled labor. But yeah for short term operation and executing a random hyperspace jump with 200 ships it only took one person.
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