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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The capital gains rate would actually be higher than it ever has been, but also only by about 4%. Any time someone brings this up, all you have to do is point out that the 1% turned a massive profit during the pandemic. They made money hand over fist while the rest of us struggled and starved.
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But be prepared to hear a chorus of poo poo like "WhY dO YoU wAnT tO pUnIsH sUcCeSs???" 
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Anything come of Yellen's push for a Global Minimum Tax? I'm not sure how that would be accomplished.
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Apr 24, 2021 02:12
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GreyjoyBastard posted:please dial down the shitposting in this thread a bit turning a big dial taht says "Shitposts" on it and constantly looking back at the mods for approval like a contestant on the price is right
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Apr 24, 2021 02:14
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Grouchio posted:...(she wouldn't would she?) No, because she will not be elected governor
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:"Eye-popping" tax rates that are the same top rate as 1994, a corporate tax rate the same as it was in 2018, and a capital gains rate 3% higher than the rate in 1981. LT2012 is correct, the framing on this story and "eyepopping" in particular are dogshit. The headlines on this and previous similar stories as "Biden's tax-the-rich plans" are similarly awful (though I sure like the sound of them!). Even the content of the story includes another deeply questionable anonymous quote: quote:Democrats close to the White House believe that the amount of revenue that the IRS can collect on capital gains actually decreases past a certain point, probably in the low 30% range. That means the ultimate capital gains rate could be well below 43.4% It is interesting to see that this is Axios' take, given polling that shows Biden's plan gets bipartisanly more popular when people learn they're paying for it by hitting the GOP's favorite people. nine-gear crow posted:turning a big dial taht says "Shitposts" on it and constantly looking back at the mods for approval like a contestant on the price is right
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Bishyaler posted:So if we want Biden to fulfill campaign promises and roll back Trump's changes instead of embracing them, that's leftwing authoritarianism? Why would he need to break laws? Democrats told us for years how they were the only adults in the room and they would do right by Americans. I know that reading two whole pages of a thread is hard, but no, I don't think anybody is comparing "want[ing] Biden to fulfill campaign promises and roll back Trump's changes instead of embracing them" to left-wing authoritarianism. They're responding to this post: Owlspiracy posted:serious question: why hasn't biden arrested dejoy as a threat to democracy? seems like that would solve this problem in about one second Also: Bootleg Trunks posted:He will not make that happen. Reading this article beyond the headline will tell you that Biden doesn't believe he has the authority to cancel more than $10k of student loan debt by executive order, but is willing and able to work with Congress to cancel up to $50k legislatively.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The framing that taking the top tax rate back to what it was under Bill Clinton and the corporate tax rate back to what it was in 2018 is "eye-popping" is bad. Oh yeah I mean the framing of it is lovely. I was just commenting on how I like the rates going up. Also tax the poo poo out of crypto.
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eye-popping is one of the most irritating media cliches that only show up in political media analysis. Easily topped by "noshed" with a weird focus on what people are eating having meetings or being interviewed to establish their "common man" bona fides.
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Skippy McPants posted:Any time someone brings this up, all you have to do is point out that the 1% turned a massive profit during the pandemic. They made money hand over fist while the rest of us struggled and starved. interesting argument. how do you respond to the counter argument: a pillowcase with a dollar sign on it stuffed with cash?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:eye-popping is one of the most irritating media cliches that only show up in political media analysis. Easily topped by "noshed" with a weird focus on what people are eating having meetings or being interviewed to establish their "common man" bona fides.
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evilweasel posted:interesting argument. how do you respond to the counter argument: a pillowcase with a dollar sign on it stuffed with cash? 
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Skippy McPants posted:Any time someone brings this up, all you have to do is point out that the 1% turned a massive profit during the pandemic. They made money hand over fist while the rest of us struggled and starved.
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Grouchio posted:Unless Caitlyn Jenner gets rid of the California 529A plan I just signed up for, I don't see much a reason to be concerned as a non-Californian on the east coast. hey grouchio, i think i speak for every californian when i say we don't care what happens to you either
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:"Eye-popping" tax rates that are the same top rate as 1994, a corporate tax rate the same as it was in 2018, and a capital gains rate 3% higher than the rate in 1981. I wish to God the media would stop putting halos on politicians.
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SubG posted:Nosh is perfectly ordinary conversational Yiddish. griped a capitol hill staffer noshing on a heaping plate of ribs, mashed potatoes and creamy potato salad trucked in from Dave's Joint, a local barbeque spot in Falls Church. quote:The real issue is the eye-popping use of punchy monosyllabic cliches that were started because they were short enough for justified type but are inexplicable and obnoxious now that everythings online. BIG FLUFFY DOG fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Apr 24, 2021 |
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:hey grouchio, i think i speak for every californian when i say we don't care what happens to you either Buddy I have had problems as of late figuring out what worries should and shouldn't concern me, because I cannot live life caring and hurting over everything. Thus: Jenner removing the 529A would be the only thing to directly impact me, I concluded. Also I know dick about your state post-1850 so I don't know what your situation is. I hope it gets better and I hope you get a suitable dem replacement for governor.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:"Eye-popping" tax rates that are the same top rate as 1994, a corporate tax rate the same as it was in 2018, and a capital gains rate 3% higher than the rate in 1981. I hate to sound like a shitheel but I hope that capital gains rate only applies to like, really large, short term gains, and not when granny (or me) cashes in a $10k gain from a few shares of Standard Oil that have been in a safety deposit box for 60 years.
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So how about the GOP still insisting on recounts. Think they're setting up grounds to support the big lie?
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:I know that reading two whole pages of a thread is hard, but no, I don't think anybody is comparing "want[ing] Biden to fulfill campaign promises and roll back Trump's changes instead of embracing them" to left-wing authoritarianism. They're responding to this post: Yeah, I know. I'm pointing out that Democrats are right-wing corporate sycophants that have no interest in making things fundamentally better, and you're a bad person for supporting them. The worsening material conditions created by liberals is fertile soil for fascists. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Flopsy posted:So how about the GOP still insisting on recounts. Think they're setting up grounds to support the big lie?
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Apr 24, 2021 06:09
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Flopsy posted:So how about the GOP still insisting on recounts. Think they're setting up grounds to support the big lie? Since when are they ever not? The entire attitude since the 80s at least has been that any opposition to them is fundamentally illegitimate.
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Number_6 posted:I hate to sound like a shitheel but I hope that capital gains rate only applies to like, really large, short term gains, and not when granny (or me) cashes in a $10k gain from a few shares of Standard Oil that have been in a safety deposit box for 60 years. iirc capital gains is the rate used for investment income longer than a year. if the investment is held for less than a year its taxed like normal income.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:"Setting up"? They already have all the evidence they need: Trump lost the election, therefore it was illegitimate. Anything that shows otherwise is fake news planted by Soros-funded Dem operatives. Yeah but now you have a cabal of nutcases that are being given access to real ballots. For whatever it's worth I guess I dunno.
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Number_6 posted:I hate to sound like a shitheel but I hope that capital gains rate only applies to like, really large, short term gains, and not when granny (or me) cashes in a $10k gain from a few shares of Standard Oil that have been in a safety deposit box for 60 years. Short term capital gains are taxed as ordinary income. Long term capital gains are taxed depending on your income level, so you and granny (and really almost eveyone) don't really have to worry too much here. E: right now your yearly income probably has to be in the 400k+ range to hit the top capital gains rate. VikingofRock fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Apr 24, 2021 |
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Grouchio posted:Buddy buddy buddy buddy you know you're allowed to just not comment on things you think won't concern you, right
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Number_6 posted:I hate to sound like a shitheel but I hope that capital gains rate only applies to like, really large, short term gains, and not when granny (or me) cashes in a $10k gain from a few shares of Standard Oil that have been in a safety deposit box for 60 years. The proposal is to tax long-term capital gains at the same rate as ordinary income, plus a small existing Medicare surcharge, for people with total income over $1 million/yr. Short-term capital gains are already taxed as ordinary income. The favorable tax treatment for long-term capital gains is one of the biggest giveaways to the wealthy in the American tax system (which is not short on giveaways to the wealthy) and this has been a necessary change for a very long time. If a granny cashes out $10k on top of her social security check then she'd keep most of the money under this plan, unless she happened to have $990,000 in income from other sources, in which case I think she'll be OK paying some tax. Axios is emphasizing the 43.4% number because they're trying to generate clicks with a shocking-sounding headline.
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Number_6 posted:I hate to sound like a shitheel but I hope that capital gains rate only applies to like, really large, short term gains, and not when granny (or me) cashes in a $10k gain from a few shares of Standard Oil that have been in a safety deposit box for 60 years. It treats long-term capital gains as ordinary income. Short-term gains are already treated as ordinary income. You won't pay the top rate unless you make more than $1,000,000 in a year.
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Flopsy posted:Yeah but now you have a cabal of nutcases that are being given access to real ballots. For whatever it's worth I guess I dunno. They keep finding things are fine, though. I don't understand how people can still believe this stuff when there's been recounts by people advancing the idea that Trump won and they still found nothing.
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Grondoth posted:They keep finding things are fine, though. I don't understand how people can still believe this stuff when there's been recounts by people advancing the idea that Trump won and they still found nothing. It literally doesn't matter that the results made sense however many times they were counted the first time around. I get the feeling these people are exactly the type to either destroy or alter them to make it adhere to their loving insane conspiracy theory.
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Grondoth posted:They keep finding things are fine, though. I don't understand how people can still believe this stuff when there's been recounts by people advancing the idea that Trump won and they still found nothing. But this time it will be different! Just like the idea that trickle-down economics works, we'll see that any day now!
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Flopsy posted:It literally doesn't matter that the results made sense however many times they were counted the first time around. I get the feeling these people are exactly the type to either destroy or alter them to make it adhere to their loving insane conspiracy theory.
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It really can't be emphasised enough that these people genuinely don't care what the reality is. They expect third world dictatorship style 'irregularities have been found with the voting process' fig-leafs for a blatant coup. Any system that does not act entirely in their favour is illegitimate. The idea of 'trusting the process' like liberals are taught to do is entirely ridiculous to them, as they are used to a system that exists solely for their benefit and no one else's.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:when i was a kid. i always thought the monkey was kinda of out of place. but then i learned back in the day you could just order them out of magazines/comic books. Oof, that's just devastatingly tragic & evil. https://www.nrdc.org/onearth/so-you-want-pet-squirrel-monkey quote:One winter when my mom was about eight years old, my grandfather brought home a squirrel monkey. She had no idea where he got it (he was always bringing home bizarre attractions—one time a cotton candy machine, another time homing pigeons), but as she remembers it, the primate stayed with them for two miserable weeks. "This abused monkey will go insane of boredom & cold and throw poo poo at you and spank the monkey in plain sight of the kids!" "Ooh I want one! Just mail it to me!" Stick to sea monkeys, kids.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:If there’s one thing Californians love, it’s famous people. Democrats aren't going to vote for a Republican. Republicans aren't going to vote for a transwoman. She has no constituency.
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Katt posted:What do you think Kyrsten Sinemas deal is? Dems have won the last two senate races and the last Presidential race there. As things are going now, I expect her to be primaried, and whoever wins the primary will be the favorite.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Dems have won the last two senate races and the last Presidential race there. Primary a pro-business democrat in a battleground state? I'm not so sure. I mean. I'd love to see it. But red states typically drink the kool-aid about business.
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Flopsy posted:It literally doesn't matter that the results made sense however many times they were counted the first time around. I get the feeling these people are exactly the type to either destroy or alter them to make it adhere to their loving insane conspiracy theory. It's just chickens coming home to roost, same as with a lot of the worst stuff we see happening domestically. The reason it's stupid is because unlike in countries like Bolivia where we do this stuff to boost parties who campaign as open and explicit Nazis, this is entirely irrelevant because in the US only 538 people get to vote for president They could alter every single vote in Arizona to be for Trump and it wouldn't matter because none of those votes for president actually counted any more than a twitter poll
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Charlz Guybon posted:Democrats aren't going to vote for a Republican. Republicans aren't going to vote for a transwoman. She has no constituency. Even beyond politics, virtually all the goodwill she accumulated from her transition has been winnowed away by her being a very public rear end in a top hat once the PR blitz was over. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone out there who still likes and respects Caitlyn Jenner.
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