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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

After The War posted:

"Queerness itself causes suicides," seems like a total non sequitur, but it's taken as a given. Does this come from a "queerness is mental illness, mental illness causes suicide" thought process?

No, they know why trans people are committing suicide, they just don't care or are even happy about it. To most people that makes them horrific monsters so they won't admit it publicly, so they have to make up bullshit to hide it. Garrison basically laid out the claim in his rant: "trans people are mentally ill and mutilate their bodies to try and be something they're not, but when the reality that they can't change what they are hits them and they realize they've irreversibly damaged their body, it causes them to become depressed and commit suicide." The idea is that they're not saying that gender dysphoria is itself a cause of suicide, just any attempts to transition or live as the gender you identify as are harmful. This makes it easier to swallow for people who aren't in the right wing hate club, you don't actually hate them, you really want to help them, but the best way to help them is to force them to be "normal."

To the right it's a win/win situation: either the trans person commits suicide from being oppressed and abused, or they live a life of misery trying to deny their feelings.

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

It's my understanding "self-defense" in the US has never been stricter than "I thought my life/property was at risk" and you're home free as long as no one alive can contradict you and the dead person's skin is darker than yours. This seems like a logical extension of that. Presumably you're still gonna face charges if you hit like a Trump rally or something.

It's this. People who have run over protesters always say things like "They were trying to break my windows to reach in and attack me, I was scared for my life and needed to flee!" so it gets framed as "self-defense." If someone did try and use it like the Rall cartoon against a right wing gathering, it wouldn't work because "Well obviously they were just peace loving people not doing anything wrong so therefore you can't use this law as a defense."

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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Sorry, slight derail, but how the gently caress can states pass laws effectively making murder legal? Isn't that a federal crime?

Could a state pass a law granting immunity to knife-holders whose knife hits a person?

UK goon here so I'm just sitting over here going full :psyduck: from over the Atlantic.
No actually, murder is a state crime. The constitution says that powers not explicitly given to the federal government are given to the states and there’s no mention of murder, or most other crimes, in the constitution. That’s not saying that murder isn’t a big deal or anything, that’s just how it is written out.

If you kill someone and then flee across a state border it becomes a federal issue though.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~






Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


FronzelNeekburm posted:

I wonder how much Winslow, a literal coyote, will lose due to the increase in capital gains taxes.

He can't eat the rich (people's pets) if they leave town.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008


:lmao:

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Bottom right is dubious tbh

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018


What's the word for when you're laughing from within a spreading pit of despair? There must be a german phrase for it.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

An insane mind posted:

What's the word for when you're laughing from within a spreading pit of despair? There must be a german phrase for it.

Galgenhumor, i.e. gallows humor fits it quite well.

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

SneezeOfTheDecade posted:

Mallard Fillmore - Loren Fishman


loving lol, GA activists have gone through and analyzed just how bad the bill is point by point; it's wingnuts like Drinky n'Pals who are all "it makes voting easier, trust us, Brian Kemp said so!"

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

Mikl posted:

Kellies nomination: worst gaslighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anrel3vVfK4

Get hosed.

I love how Senator Cletus here just assumed Abrams was a dumb black lady who couldn't stand up to him because he believes his own bullshit

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

SneezeOfTheDecade posted:

Prickly City - Scott Stantis and Eric Allie

Yeah, it's definitely the left who are all about greedily leaving a worse planet for their children, right? They're the ones dumping pollutants and saying "who cares, I'll be dead"? Pretty sure that's the left.

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




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Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

So Bolling’s link. It’s an actual NFT, and he’s only donating half the profits to a carbon fund. Because supporting a destructive technology is okay if you donate to charity!

How can you be this unaware? loving HOW??

Pants Donkey fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Apr 30, 2021

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Sorry, slight derail, but how the gently caress can states pass laws effectively making murder legal? Isn't that a federal crime?

Could a state pass a law granting immunity to knife-holders whose knife hits a person?

UK goon here so I'm just sitting over here going full :psyduck: from over the Atlantic.


The federal government has tried to pass laws against murder, the various anti-lynching acts, to empower the feds to prosecute murders in states where the local government doesn't feel like looking into it for :airquote:some reason:airquote:, but thus far it's always been defeated by opposition from states where a lot of black people got murdered and the state government just shrugged!

The problem has always been the senate, which has filibustered every attempt to allow the federal government to intervene. The only thing the feds can do is prosecute cops who commit murder as a federal civil rights violation because that law was passed during Reconstruction when the power of the white southern elite was temporarily broken. Which they are now doing in the case of Chauvin and his accomplices, and it was apparently their backup plan in case the state of Minnesota acquitted him of murder.

E: and there are federal laws against murder, the statute is just written that they only apply in areas under direct federal jurisdiction like US territories, US-controlled waters, etc

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Apr 30, 2021

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Henny Beaumont on the ‘cash for curtains’ scandal – PM’s flat refurbishments could be investigated by body with powers that can lead to suspensions if serious breaches have occurred"

Telegraph:

‘Crisis into opportunity’: Biden lays out vision for sweeping change in speech to Congress

Matt:


Independent:

Arlene Foster to step down as Northern Ireland first minister

Times:


Evening Standard:


Mail:
PAUL THOMAS on... suggestions

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
I actually like that Matt.

Nameless Pete
May 8, 2007

Get a load of those...

A punchline with layers.

Wikipedia posted:

Carl Barks (March 27, 1901 – August 25, 2000) was an American cartoonist, author, and painter. He is best known for his work in Disney comic books, as the writer and artist of the first Donald Duck stories and as the creator of Scrooge McDuck. He worked anonymously until late in his career; fans dubbed him The Duck Man and The Good Duck Artist. In 1987, Barks was one of the three inaugural inductees of the Will Eisner Comic Book Hall of Fame.

Nameless Pete fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Apr 30, 2021

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

fool of sound posted:

Bottom right is dubious tbh

My main takeaway from Defunctland is that yeah, Disney was a paternalistic conservative who thought Leave it To Beaver was the natural state of humanity and any deviations from that model should be corrected as violently as possible. Buuuuuut if it made the company money he'd ditch those principles in a heartbeat, and did so at every opportunity

DarklyDreaming fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Apr 30, 2021

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Lol, the reason they decided to ditch Spot was because you can easily take it out by kicking it over and yanking the battery out. That or you can just dump a bucket of water on it.

There was also maybe the part where Boston Dynamics wouldn't let them mount a gun on it. For now. Soon...

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Sorry, slight derail, but how the gently caress can states pass laws effectively making murder legal? Isn't that a federal crime?

Could a state pass a law granting immunity to knife-holders whose knife hits a person?

UK goon here so I'm just sitting over here going full :psyduck: from over the Atlantic.

Samurai Sanders posted:

No actually, murder is a state crime. The constitution says that powers not explicitly given to the federal government are given to the states and there’s no mention of murder, or most other crimes, in the constitution. That’s not saying that murder isn’t a big deal or anything, that’s just how it is written out.

If you kill someone and then flee across a state border it becomes a federal issue though.
I think if you kill someone on federal property too. I once got a ticket at the Pentagon and I think even that was federal, if I remember right. I just paid the fine so I don't remember what courthouse or whatever.

Probably some other things can make it federal too, like killing a federal agent or member of the military.

Here's a nice little article about how a bunch of drunk people get federal DUI charges at the Pentagon because it's a confusing interchange. (This is not what I got in trouble for, for the record. I believe I had an expired plate? I really don't remember it was a long time ago.)

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011


Uhh

MechaCrash
Jan 1, 2013

DarklyDreaming posted:

My main takeaway from Defunctland is that yeah, Disney was a paternalistic conservative who thought Leave it To Beaver was the natural state of humanity and any deviations from that model should be corrected as violently as possible. Buuuuuut if it made the company money he'd ditch those principles in a heartbeat, and did so at every opportunity

People ditching their principles for a paycheck is not unheard of, and sometimes when it happens it's a net positive.


But not always.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Lodin posted:

Lol, the reason they decided to ditch Spot was because you can easily take it out by kicking it over and yanking the battery out. That or you can just dump a bucket of water on it.

There was also maybe the part where Boston Dynamics wouldn't let them mount a gun on it. For now. Soon...

I like to pretend that it was because Spot was programmed to document any laws being broken, and it just kept documenting police.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Pants Donkey posted:

So Bolling’s link. It’s an actual NFT, and he’s only donating half the profits to a carbon fund. Because supporting a destructive technology is okay if you donate to charity!

How can you be this unaware? loving HOW??

Some people take the next step of "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" to be "so go nuts" rather than "but don't do something exponentially worse you loving clowns"

Dylan16807
May 12, 2010

Pants Donkey posted:

So Bolling’s link. It’s an actual NFT, and he’s only donating half the profits to a carbon fund. Because supporting a destructive technology is okay if you donate to charity!

How can you be this unaware? loving HOW??

How much does that carbon fund do? Does it actually get CO2 removed from the air? Because CO2 is all the same; if you release 100 tons and capture 300 tons then that's pretty good.

UZworm
Feb 9, 2009

Young wild Elsweyrian
C'mon baby, do you have a soul gem

Dylan16807 posted:

How much does that carbon fund do? Does it actually get CO2 removed from the air? Because CO2 is all the same; if you release 100 tons and capture 300 tons then that's pretty good.

Carbon funds have long been known to be an incredibly ineffective way of trying to stop climate change, and they provide no "capture" of carbon so much as they try to offset various emissions.

But regardless of that, there is no amount of carbon funding that supersedes the amount of waste that NFTs cause for absolutely zero benefit to anyone (except the buyer's ego and the seller's bank account). Even if he was giving ALL the profits to the carbon fund, it almost certainly wouldn't result in a net loss of anything.

UZworm fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Apr 30, 2021

Raised By Birds
May 5, 2013
Chip Bok


Steve Breen


Tim Campbell


Stuart Carlson


Matt Davies


John Deering


Al Goodwyn


Steve Kelley


Mike Lester


Michael Ramirez


Gary Varvel

Ah, good old Commu-Fasc.

Matt Wuerker


Tony Branco

quote:

Santa’s Little Helper
Biden’s American Families Plan is more like a drunken sailor’s spending spree.

I dunno, that baby seems to be able to lift it alright. Must be all that public investment into making the baby stronger.

Nameless Pete
May 8, 2007

Get a load of those...

FACISM

Dylan16807
May 12, 2010

UZworm posted:

Carbon funds have long been known to be an incredibly ineffective way of trying to stop climate change, and they provide no "capture" of carbon so much as they try to offset various emissions.

But regardless of that, there is no amount of carbon funding that supersedes the amount of waste that NFTs cause for absolutely zero benefit to anyone (except the buyer's ego and the seller's bank account). Even if he was giving ALL the profits to the carbon fund, it almost certainly wouldn't result in a net loss of anything.

Carbon credits fail because the systems are set up badly, not because all forms of paying to reduce carbon are doomed to failure.

Is he donating to buy carbon credits? If so that's a pretty flawed setup. But if he would donate to directly bury some charcoal or whatever, then we could measure a real amount of change on the amount of CO2.

And your second point doesn't really work. If a chunk of the money is going to a good cause then "absolutely zero benefit" stops being true. It might not be nearly enough, but we have to actually check the numbers to know.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Dylan16807 posted:

Carbon credits fail because the systems are set up badly, not because all forms of paying to reduce carbon are doomed to failure.

Is he donating to buy carbon credits? If so that's a pretty flawed setup. But if he would donate to directly bury some charcoal or whatever, then we could measure a real amount of change on the amount of CO2.

And your second point doesn't really work. If a chunk of the money is going to a good cause then "absolutely zero benefit" stops being true. It might not be nearly enough, but we have to actually check the numbers to know.

:actually: personified

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

A covid virus wearing a mask labeled FACISM has got to be the singularly most stupid concentration of political cartoons in existence

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!


Poor Bernie, demoted from Socialism to Communism.

Not gonna lie, those things look like a toy I remember them selling back in the mid-90s

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

the_steve posted:

Poor Bernie, demoted from Socialism to Communism.

Not gonna lie, those things look like a toy I remember them selling back in the mid-90s

One of these, I'm guessing?



And what do these guys think is going to happen to our grandkids if we continue with deficit spending? That around 2050 the US will have to declare bankruptcy?

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


Biden appears to be having some kind of allergic reaction here.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Lemming posted:

A covid virus wearing a mask labeled FACISM has got to be the singularly most stupid concentration of political cartoons in existence
You can tell anti-virus masks are bad because i drew them as viruses, which are no big deal

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Moon Slayer posted:


And what do these guys think is going to happen to our grandkids if we continue with deficit spending? That around 2050 the US will have to declare bankruptcy?

Who knows! It doesn't matter, or it didn't for four years previous apparently

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA

the_steve posted:

Poor Bernie, demoted from Socialism to Communism.

Not gonna lie, those things look like a toy I remember them selling back in the mid-90s
Little disc with suction cups on the side?

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Lemming posted:

A covid virus wearing a mask labeled FACISM has got to be the singularly most stupid concentration of political cartoons in existence

THEY GO ON YOUR FACE! READ BETWEEN THE LINES PEOPLE.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Moon Slayer posted:

One of these, I'm guessing?



And what do these guys think is going to happen to our grandkids if we continue with deficit spending? That around 2050 the US will have to declare bankruptcy?

That hyperinflation will render all of your savings worthless ANY DAY NOW. They've been saying that since 2009, if not earlier, but they really mean it this time!

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SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Lemming posted:

A covid virus wearing a mask labeled FACISM has got to be the singularly most stupid concentration of political cartoons in existence

"Fascism is when the government won't let me do something I want to do or makes me do something I don't want to do. Good governance is when the government murders you."

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