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Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Asproigerosis posted:

Make no mistake we are going to be full normal this summer. It just so happens there will be an inconvenient aerosol death plague that lingers and kills thousands every day. But we are back to normal, take off the masks and open biden! Hopefully you nerds that keep wearing masks get bullied for being so socioparhic.

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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Thoguh posted:

The south won reconstruction and it isn't even close.

it’s still ongoing in some ways

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Look, they had Michelle Obama and the Hamilton guy do a prime time TV special to encourage people to get vaccinated and if that didn't work I just don't know what will.

Ansar Santa
Jul 12, 2012

more like turd immunity

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
Keeping the vaccines patented is the most biblically sinful thing imaginable and it makes me wish hell was real.

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

Going to be super annoyed if a vaccine escape strain emerges this fall right when pediatric vaccines get EUA'd. Why aren't they trialing updated vaccines instead of ones based on the wild type virus that probably doesn't exist anymore.

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

Salt Fish posted:

Keeping the vaccines patented is the most biblically sinful thing imaginable and it makes me wish hell was real.

THE most biblically sinful thing? Ummm... are you new to Capitalism?

Salvor_Hardin
Sep 13, 2005

I want to go protest.
Nap Ghost
Got my Moderna #2 yesterday and got a crazy fever and chills all night. Still feel like poo poo. But I guess I know its working.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Nocturtle posted:

Going to be super annoyed if a vaccine escape strain emerges this fall right when pediatric vaccines get EUA'd. Why aren't they trialing updated vaccines instead of ones based on the wild type virus that probably doesn't exist anymore.

I think it's to limit the variables involved and that if the boosters they are trialing for adults work that updating the shot for kids will go quick.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Thoguh posted:

Look, they had Michelle Obama and the Hamilton guy do a prime time TV special to encourage people to get vaccinated and if that didn't work I just don't know what will.

I wish Mod Sassinator would come back, he watched it, and it apparently was just some kind of Zoom special

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Salvor_Hardin posted:

Got my Moderna #2 yesterday and got a crazy fever and chills all night. Still feel like poo poo. But I guess I know its working.

Another successful Goon experiment.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

NeonPunk posted:

THE most biblically sinful thing? Ummm... are you new to Capitalism?

Capitalism is complicated but the patent thing is literally 3 or 4 people each who individually thought about it and was like "eh... whatever".

post COVID
Mar 5, 2007

free college, free healthcare, free Shmurda


Salt Fish posted:

Keeping the vaccines patented is the most biblically sinful thing imaginable and it makes me wish hell was real.

yup. and for any 'well releasing the IP wouldn't help' argument, that's total bullshit. the whole process is shrouded in secrecy, trade secrets and IP. it would be profoundly helpful to the entire world if pfizer and moderna released an open protocol on how life-saving medication is made.

also i looked into mRNA nanoparticle formulation using microfluidics, and some of the best pioneering work i could find in early 2010s was funded by the Canadian government.

Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011
Man American Culture lol. Open up!

https://twitter.com/Paulina_Mosb/status/1389257234610327566

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Why?

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

We're about to enter a new era in the adaptive fitness of SARS-CoV-2. Soon we'll have everything open with vaccinated and unvaccinated people alike drooling on each other. Each interaction is an opportunity for an infected, unvaccinated idiot to spit out a virion with the right mutations to infect a vaccinated person. It's these interactions that breed opportunities for better escape variants, and by opening 'er up completely with a half-vaxxed population, we're upping the count of these opportunities by orders of magnitude.

As a result, I'm pretty confident we see a fall wave once seasonality brings R(t) back up and we get complacent (again lol). But similarly, if we don't see a fall wave this time I doubt we ever see SARS-CoV-2 developing much significant escape outside of our current vaccines.
lmao yeah

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

:lol:

White Castle isn't even that good

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010





lmao

Jay-V
Nov 8, 2009

drat bruh they should have been reading the cspam covid thread, i knew this like 3208230972398 posts ago

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat

can't you just buy white castle poo poo at the grocery store? i'm p sure i've seen it

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf
Got Pfizer #2 on Friday, and I had no issues at all except for the stiffness on my arm where I got my shot. I actually felt fatigued after shot #1.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Weaponized Autism posted:

Got Pfizer #2 on Friday, and I had no issues at all except for the stiffness on my arm where I got my shot. I actually felt fatigued after shot #1.

Cool.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus



Opener up

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



everyone who lives in orlando is a long island emigre so them lining up for hours to get a taste of home makes sense

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I hope fatigue is all I get, night after shot 1 was some of the best sleep I've had in awhile

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

all right goons post the link to your favorite respirator, I'm taking the plunge

DoombatINC
Apr 20, 2003

Here's the thing, I'm a feminist.






You can make a hamburger at home and it doesn't take four hours

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

fosborb posted:

that program is only available for companies with fewer than 500 employees, bc everything has to have a loving means tested donut hole

Company im at only has 160 employees so we exactly do qualify for it lmao

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Epic High Five posted:

Dont worry about the expiration thing, at least beyond the baseline level of expired stuff being used. Most places have been open for takeout and any place that DID have to close down for long enough for stock to go off would've been cleaned out with breathtaking comprehensiveness by the staff, probably in under 10 minutes

Yeah we have absolutely no reason to not DUMP THAT poo poo the moment it expires. We only have so much room to hold food anyway and the prep cooks are constantly prepping, so it naturally gets rotated out anyway.

Pead
May 31, 2001
Nap Ghost

Foo Diddley posted:

can't you just buy white castle poo poo at the grocery store? i'm p sure i've seen it

The rehydrated onion bits just dont taste the same microwaved :(

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:

Anyone want to guess the state?

every state circa December 2020

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

mdemone posted:

all right goons post the link to your favorite respirator, I'm taking the plunge

it's in the op

Insanite
Aug 30, 2005

I was expecting Friday to feel like a real turning point, with folks excited to get out in the sunshine and see one another’s faces for the first time in over a year. Instead, it seems like approximately 80% of folks are still wearing masks outside, even when distant from others.

If you’re one of those people, I’m interested to know why you’re still choosing to be masked outside. I’m super confused and would love to know why my expectations have fallen so far from reality.

“Data” is taken from Friday, Saturday, and Sunday spent walking and biking around Somerville, Cambridge, and Boston.

Edit: The amount of downvoting going on here in response to an effort to peacefully dialogue with others who have different opinions than me is a really great indicator of how closed off so many of you are to civil discussion.

Edit x2: Are discussion posts on Reddit supposed to be upvoted if you agree with the implied opinion of the poster, or if you think it's a worthwhile discussion to have? 122 comments with this low of an overall score is interesting.

Edit x3: My views on the matter, since it has come up:

- I am in no way altogether "anti-mask" or a covid denier. The fact that being critical of continued outdoor mask wearing is equated to that is pretty upsetting. I know that's hard to understand for some in our Eastern MA progressive echo chamber.
- I have a problem with continued outdoor mask wearing, despite it not harming me or anyone else on an individual, case-by-case basis, because I am upset with what it signifies and manifests on a larger scale. I value emotional resiliency and encourage the overcoming of fear and anxiety when said fear and anxiety is known to be irrational. I also value "ending" this pandemic. As such, I think that it's important that people do what they can to go back to normal, where and when it is appropriate and carries no risk.
- I put "ending" in quotation marks because the reality is that we will probably be living with Covid for a long time. It will - and already has started to - become something that we just accept, understand carries a certain amount of risk (especially to certain populations), and move on with our lives. Like driving in cars, doing certain drugs, or participating in adventure sports. Deaths and complications will likely continue to drop, and our treatments and preventative measures will get better. So I think arguments about it "still being bad" are moot and seem to be shooting for some undefined and implausible future state.
- Mask wearing to this degree is absolutely an anomaly, specific to this part of the country. Yes, I've travelled in the last 14 months, and no, not just to places like Florida. People elsewhere are more tolerant of those who don't enjoy being told what to do by higher authorities, without just chalking it up to them being "crazy conservatives." They also employ more common sense around risk. I am proud of many things about living in MA but the absolute judgey, puritanical, holier-than-thou attitude many people have taken during this pandemic is disgusting. I'm glad we have such low vaccine hesitancy. I am not glad that people seem to insist on engaging in pointless safety theater precautions and judge those who don't.
- I believe in science. If all of the top infectious disease specialists and public health experts agree that outdoor transmission is a negligible risk, then I think we should act like it.
- I think that many people so religiously engage in mask wearing and distancing, to the point of masking while totally alone or deciding that even 30ft of distance from an unmasked person is dangerous, because of a basic "good boy/girl" psychology which makes them (unconsciously) want to feel patted on the back by the State and told that they're doing everything right.
- I supported Bernie in both of the last two presidential elections, support reparations, think Joe Curtatone sucks, am queer, and am watching the progressive left which I used to identify with implode on itself and lose all credibility due to an insistence on identity politics, cancel culture, and feelings>facts. Don't tell me what my politics are.
- To those making the point that masks are required when passing by others because they come within 6ft: I interpret the measure to mean that extended periods of time within 6ft require masks. But not passing moments. Doctors and public health experts have made clear that those passing unmasked moments carry “negligible” risk. I assume that local government and the CDC are giving us the benefit of the doubt in believing that we wouldn’t assume there’s risk there, either, and so don’t spell out in the measure word for word “it’s okay to be unmasked if within 6ft for 2 seconds.”

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


mdemone posted:

all right goons post the link to your favorite respirator, I'm taking the plunge

my favorites:
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/3m/6800/5128157
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/3m/FF-402/6149436
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/3m/60923/5128112

cheapest:
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/3m/6502/6149431
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/3m/6300/6827699

e: Goon Recommended(TM): https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/3m/7502/6827884

Cup Runneth Over has issued a correction as of 21:39 on May 3, 2021

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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Foo Diddley posted:

can't you just buy white castle poo poo at the grocery store? i'm p sure i've seen it

Yeah, tastes the same too since they’re steamed. Trap sprung etc.

pancake rabbit
Feb 21, 2011




lol

https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/1389316663917662208

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Jay-V posted:

drat bruh they should have been reading the cspam covid thread, i knew this like 3208230972398 posts ago

dont be silly, the doomers in c-spam are consistently wrong. don't you remember <a handful of cherrypicked examples of one person predicting something dire that didn't pan out>?

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

mdemone posted:

all right goons post the link to your favorite respirator, I'm taking the plunge

Read the OP it's crazy good.

Wearing the 3M 7502 myself and it fits great and is comfortable but I'm hard to hear. If I had to do it again I'd probably still go with it or upgrade to the FF-400 with the speaking diaphragm.

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos
my half mask + filters got here today and my 2nd shot is scheduled for saturday

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Insanite
Aug 30, 2005


aaaahahahahaha

Nocturtle posted:

Read the OP it's crazy good.

Wearing the 3M 7502 myself and it fits great and is comfortable but I'm hard to hear. If I had to do it again I'd probably still go with it or upgrade to the FF-400 with the speaking diaphragm.

+1 for the 7502. extremely comfortable, but yeah, it'll muffle you.

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