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https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1390021430444806145 Pleasantly surprised by this development.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:13 |
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Strawberry Pyramid posted:Telegram and Signal are our next targets. The chuds have fled like cockroaches to the darkness of encrypted platforms, and we must take all steps to ensure there are no safe havens at all for them. Nextdoor would be a much better target. https://youtu.be/0wMl-sATDo0 The last two minutes of this is an amazing defense of higher taxes on the wealthy.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:14 |
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Strawberry Pyramid posted:Telegram and Signal are our next targets. The chuds have fled like cockroaches to the darkness of encrypted platforms, and we must take all steps to ensure there are no safe havens at all for them. Platforms without a wide audience never last for people like that--gab, parler, voat etc are basically dead or dying because only chuds use them, and an essential part of the user experience for chuds is aggravating or being aggravated by the people they hate. They just don't get that surge of fury in an environment where it's just chuds. They need to be seen or it's pointless. That's why twitter is so important to them.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:14 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:also id rather have them chased off youtube and facebook and twitter and poo poo before we even touch their weird little dens. Sure, because those public facing, monetized platforms have a documented history of taking their bullshit and radicalizing people to join their cause. Private communication is a secret club, you have to already know someone inside that world. Besides, again, for the umpteenth time, encrypted messaging has uses by lots of GOOD people like press or freedom fighters worldwide. Encrypted communications as a thing are not the enemy here, that is as wrongheaded as can be. But I guess a take like that showing up in this thread doesn't surprise me on a forum that thinks China can do no wrong.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:15 |
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"There's nothing we can do about these (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:17 |
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Strawberry Pyramid posted:"There's nothing we can do about these You're not worth debating on this subject.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:19 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:both probably. the social media poo poo gives him the highs to get off his rear end and do stupid awful poo poo. now all he can do is scream at lickspittles and cowards. YouTube (and Twitch honestly) in the last year have exploded with Left wing content, and their numbers are insane. Youtube still has chuds, but it's night/ day from 2015, and A LOT of them are getting banned or deplatformed or demonetized there. Young Chuds are fleeing to other streaming services more and more Facebook remains the Chud Stronghold. Honestly most people under 30 should probably just boycott Facebook at this point. TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 20:25 on May 5, 2021 |
# ? May 5, 2021 20:19 |
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Signal and Telegram are used for communication between people. They're no more platforms than are telephones.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:19 |
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VH4Ever posted:Sure, because those public facing, monetized platforms have a documented history of taking their bullshit and radicalizing people to join their cause. Private communication is a secret club, you have to already know someone inside that world. Besides, again, for the umpteenth time, encrypted messaging has uses by lots of GOOD people like press or freedom fighters worldwide. Encrypted communications as a thing are not the enemy here, that is as wrongheaded as can be. But I guess a take like that showing up in this thread doesn't surprise me on a forum that thinks China can do no wrong. I'd like to note this isn't the first time that USPol/USNews has had an argument about this sort of thing—there was a minor debate last year about whether or not the entirety of Discord should be shut down because of its use by right-wingers, and a major debate in December about whether or not killing Section 230 was worth it, in the face of some GOP senators pinky-promising their support for a higher stimulus payment in exchange for killing 230. The Internet, and SA is not immune from this, is full of people who mentally short-circuit from "bad people use this thing" or "bad people will let us kill this good thing for something we want" to "we need to do this now or society will unravel."
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:19 |
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Strawberry Pyramid posted:"There's nothing we can do about these Encrypted communications are how vulnerable populations organize to be less vulnerable. There's a real reason that dictators and right-wing governments do everything they can to kill encrypted communication. You're, in effect, taking the exact same position that the US intelligence agencies and cops did in 2015/2016, when they were putting heavy pressure on Apple to remove their encryption from macOS and iOS. Please think about that for a second.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:21 |
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Actually SA is superior to all of those and we should get to decide which platform lives and which platform dies
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:23 |
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If the goal is to disrupt communication between people who might be planning crimes, then the institution of a stazi-like agency to monitor all telephone calls and read all mail between people would also be necessary. Also the bugging of offices and lecture halls in universities and schools.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:23 |
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1390021430444806145 Biden's Administration could be looking to try and repair some amount of the monumental damage Trump and the Forever war have done to the US in terms of foreign affairs. It's a good move to rebuild trust, and we should do more to aid the world with COVID vaccines as our country gets it under control.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:24 |
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Rainbow Knight posted:Actually SA is superior to all of those and we should get to decide which platform lives and which platform dies We're pretty secure, as nobody but us uses forums any more.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:24 |
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I had just assumed that "attack the encrypted platforms!" thing was a joke, now I assume it's a troll. Anyway. On one hand, it's wild and terrifying that single communications platforms like Facebook or Twitter carry so much power that the way they choose to moderate content has massive repercussions for society writ large, but on the other, it's not like we were really better off when all information was filtered through newspapers, then evening network news, then cable television...
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:25 |
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Rainbow Knight posted:Actually SA is superior to all of those I'm going to stop you right here. Also, minor question but has there been anything coming out in the news about Cuomo and/or the acquisition of Trumps tax returns in New York?
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:26 |
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imo all websites should have an account creation fee. regressives are massive assholes that will get banned more because they are in fact the ones that can't shutup about polticis / outrage subject #938475983479.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:29 |
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VH4Ever posted:But I guess a take like that showing up in this thread doesn't surprise me on a forum that thinks China can do no wrong. Who in this thread has ever defended China? Honest question We get the occasional Tankie, "just asking questions" genocide denier, (I remember the one poster was defending the torture of Tibetan monks by the state), and those people are almost universally mocked, and banned or probated. This just seemed like a wierd dig for no reason. To the point of encrypted communications, some people only hear Telegram from people like Nick Fuentes using it, and they don't realize that it's used by tons of good people and journalists as well. I actually learned about Telegram's actual purpose from Goons on this forum myself, because I was angry one day and went "shut down anything chuds use!" Because I was just angry. TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 20:38 on May 5, 2021 |
# ? May 5, 2021 20:34 |
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TulliusCicero posted:YouTube (and Twitch honestly) in the last year have exploded with Left wing content, and their numbers are insane. Youtube still has chuds, but it's night/ day from 2015, and A LOT of them are getting banned or deplatformed or demonetized there. true. but everytime i go on youtube with my phone. i am loving flooded with chud ads. twitch overall seems to handle its poo poo pretty well.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:35 |
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TulliusCicero posted:Who in this thread has ever defended China? Honest question I don't think people in this thread think that China can do no wrong. I think they just don't support the US getting involved with its military or state dept attempting to compete with China for superpower status and want the US to stay out of conflicts involving Taiwan etc because they don't think the potential for bloodshed or nuclear war is worth whatever is gained from it. As for me, I think that an ascendant China will eventually develop force projection capabilities and try to dislodge the US from the pacific and gain a trading foothold in Europe via Belt & Road while simultaneously using the globalized free market economy to financially control and curate media narratives that might run harmful to China's reputation. Thus we should try to compete with them for political influence and win over allies non-violently and potentially get militarily involved if China oversteps its bounds and starts conquering places like Taiwan. China is a big money market for everything from digital media, movies, video games to aircraft, automobiles and electronics. Everyone wants a share of that wealth and will continue to redirect their efforts to capture a share of that increasingly affluent market. That's really where all their influence comes from. Big business gets the most influence over Western governments and their desire for Chinese market share means they'll lobby for pro-China trade policy... I don't think we'll ever fight a war with China because of this. Chinese people for example think Buick is a desirable luxury brand and a lot of GM's fortunes are invested in selling cars no longer popular in the domestic market to Chinese markets where riding in the back of an extended wheelbase Buick is considered an aspirational goal. Kraftwerk fucked around with this message at 20:51 on May 5, 2021 |
# ? May 5, 2021 20:48 |
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If twitch gets shown a clip of racism or someone beating their kid they usually act much faster than YouTube, that will just give a bad warning and then a month later it’s back to normal.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:52 |
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bobjr posted:If twitch gets shown a clip of racism or someone beating their kid they usually act much faster than YouTube, that will just give a bad warning and then a month later it’s back to normal. youtube let daddyof5 go on for a year or so, plus god knows what other horrors, and thats not even counting the crowder types.
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# ? May 5, 2021 20:53 |
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Strawberry Pyramid posted:"There's nothing we can do about these The unspoken part here is that you think the government should have the unfettered ability to spy on everyone. And we know law enforcement never abuses their power or polices certain groups and ideologies more strictly, right?
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# ? May 5, 2021 21:19 |
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Crain posted:Fast food/minimum wage jobs have literally never been a "kids job". Go look at footage from the 80s, 60s, 50s and the McDonald's kitchens, food counters, etc were all adults. The idea of teens working for a living is pretty modern. Summer jobs or kids jobs were usually things like a paper route or yard work in their neighborhood. It seems like we're back to that point now, but when I was a kid in the 90's the entire store I worked in were high school kids, and we were managed by a college kid. Every store that my friends worked at were like that too. Only the manager's manager was typically an actual adult. This was however, a very particular slice of time, about 1997 to 2000.
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# ? May 5, 2021 21:30 |
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TulliusCicero posted:Who in this thread has ever defended China? Honest question I was digging on the forums generally, that's why I delineated between the two. It was mostly a comment on how many places on these forums you'll find China cheerleading. It explains why such a perspective would also be present and accounted for in this thread. China, by the by, also doesn't really care for encrypted communication platforms. Bishyaler posted:The unspoken part here is that you think the government should have the unfettered ability to spy on everyone. And we know law enforcement never abuses their power or polices certain groups and ideologies more strictly, right? And this is why I'm accusing that poster of also being a China fan. Extremely their speed. VH4Ever fucked around with this message at 21:37 on May 5, 2021 |
# ? May 5, 2021 21:31 |
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1389935264420687872 This is so vastly stupid that any claim to intelligentsia that may have been afforded Kirk previously should be null. SCOTUS is going to rule on a private companies board decision exactly how Charlie? Which law is it that they are going to site? Which constitutional provision is being violated? SCOTUS doesn't take cases that haven't been tried by the lower courts Charlie, is there a court case here we all missed?
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# ? May 5, 2021 21:36 |
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Murgos posted:This is so vastly stupid that any claim to intelligentsia that may have been afforded Kirk previously should be null. Any such claims were entirely bad faith anyway
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# ? May 5, 2021 21:38 |
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1389935264420687872 Who is this dipshit and why do I care what he says? Seems like this belongs in the right-wing media thread.
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# ? May 5, 2021 21:39 |
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paternity suitor posted:It seems like we're back to that point now, but when I was a kid in the 90's the entire store I worked in were high school kids, and we were managed by a college kid. Every store that my friends worked at were like that too. Only the manager's manager was typically an actual adult. This was however, a very particular slice of time, about 1997 to 2000. I wonder why more young adults are now working those kinds of lovely jobs. Couldn't put my finger on why though. Anyway, let's try cutting taxes on their employers.
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# ? May 5, 2021 21:42 |
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Kalit posted:Who is this dipshit and why do I care what he says? Seems like this belongs in the right-wing media thread. You don't know who Charlie Kirk is? https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1390023742194061312 An unalloyed good thing happened and you know what that means: the line must go down.
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# ? May 5, 2021 21:53 |
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zoux posted:You don't know who Charlie Kirk is? Oh wow, they went down a whole 7% AT MOST. Truly all is lost.
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# ? May 5, 2021 21:57 |
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It's unfortunately not support for the full WTO TRIPS waiver on COVID-related patents that the US has been blocking since 2020, but it's still a step in the right direction (and numbers going down is a good sign!) Crossposting from COVID: Mind_Taker posted:https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1390027450801864705?s=20 Stickman fucked around with this message at 22:02 on May 5, 2021 |
# ? May 5, 2021 21:58 |
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zoux posted:You don't know who Charlie Kirk is? Nope. Based on his twitter bio, he just seems like someone along the lines of Shapiro/Hannity, but less popular. Kalit fucked around with this message at 22:02 on May 5, 2021 |
# ? May 5, 2021 21:58 |
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zoux posted:You don't know who Charlie Kirk is? loving good Though I'm sure the rich will screech about losing their 2nd Yacht
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# ? May 5, 2021 21:58 |
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TulliusCicero posted:loving good No one is even losing a 6th yacht over this.
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# ? May 5, 2021 22:01 |
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Sanguinia posted:Oh wow, they went down a whole 7% AT MOST. Truly all is lost. Losing 7% of your total value in 15 seconds is a very large drop. Especially for a huge company like Pfizer with very stable prices.
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# ? May 5, 2021 22:02 |
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It's certainly pissing off the right people. https://twitter.com/levfacher/status/1390048101084418051
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# ? May 5, 2021 22:02 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Losing 7% of your total value in 15 seconds is a very large drop. Especially for a huge company like Pfizer with very stable prices. pfizer only dropped 1.23% the moderna drop is big in context i imagine since it's a company without much product except this, so there's probably some very large holders (like the execs/founders) but uh they also probably shot from the merely well-off to the super-rich this year so they're probably not used to the huge amounts of money they have yet!
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# ? May 5, 2021 22:05 |
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France blockades the U.K. was not on my 2021 bingo card. https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1390025416623132673
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# ? May 5, 2021 22:09 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:France blockades the U.K. was not on my 2021 bingo card. Seven Years War II: the Reckoning seems to be starting off swimmingly It makes sense that as the French and British fall into the cultural hellpit that is fascism their tensions might flare back up. This is about fishing licenses? Hahaha what?
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