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THE BEST MAN VS DARBY 71 56.35%
BUCKS VS SCU 40 31.75%
NAGATA VS MOX 14 11.11%
OC VS PAC 1 0.79%
Total: 126 votes
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Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around

boar guy posted:

i'm always a day behind on this stuff because i'm on the west coast so i dont watch live but i just wanted to say i really enjoyed the stagecraft? visual storytelling? of darby having the headlocks/chokeholds sunk and working on miro but then he has to break them because of the injury he suffered falling down the stairs. my kid calls that sort of thing "character development" and the E never, ever had it

This sounds stupid but I feel like I remember hearing a while back about a WWE mandate for the wrestlers to not sell injuries during matches or something along those lines? If you can't act like a body part is hurt and that body part is integral to doing a move/hold, then you're going to be somewhat limited in the stories you can tell during a match.

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ozymandius1024
Mar 15, 2006

You don't yank on the Spine of God

boar guy posted:

wish i could have heard what miro said to him in the clinch after the pin. i hoped he thanked him profusely because darby worked his rear end off to make him look like a beast

I always wonder about that kind of stuff too.



Same with Moxley at the end of the Nagata match.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Darby's Last Stand was a great bit of pro wrestling because all the various bits ppl thought were AEW was just thoughtlessly deploying suddenly clicked into place. One small bit I liked (spoiling since they haven't outright said it on TV) Sting's cut some type of deal with Jake Roberts that kept Lance Archer out of the TNT title picture while Darby had it but the details of the deal are still unclear

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



enigmahfc posted:

something about the lighting and angle makes this look like a Mass Effect character model or something.

I was thinking a Bots of New York procedurally generated one but yeah lol

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

ozymandius1024 posted:

I always wonder about that kind of stuff too.

I DONT CARE HOW STRAIGHTEDGE YOU ARE IM BUYING YOU A STEAK AND A BEER YOU LITTLE poo poo

ozymandius1024
Mar 15, 2006

You don't yank on the Spine of God

boar guy posted:

I DONT CARE HOW STRAIGHTEDGE YOU ARE IM BUYING YOU A STEAK AND A BEER YOU LITTLE poo poo

AND ALSO, I FORGIVE YOU




Always be working.

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

coconono posted:

Darby's Last Stand was a great bit of pro wrestling because all the various bits ppl thought were AEW was just thoughtlessly deploying suddenly clicked into place. One small bit I liked (spoiling since they haven't outright said it on TV) Sting's cut some type of deal with Jake Roberts that kept Lance Archer out of the TNT title picture while Darby had it but the details of the deal are still unclear

idk if you're joking or not but that would be incredible if it was true

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

coconono posted:

One small bit I liked (spoiling since they haven't outright said it on TV) Sting's cut some type of deal with Jake Roberts that kept Lance Archer out of the TNT title picture while Darby had it but the details of the deal are still unclear

whaaaat
is this real? why wouldn't they put that on TV

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
So I've been thinking. And theoretically, say AEW did get the wrestler formerly known as Daniel Bryan. Obviously he'd be a huge boon for the company in every way. But do you abandon your plan to put Page over Omega to have Bryan go over Omega instead?

I guess I'm wondering if you bring in Bryan, then have Page still beat Omega, you dont risk the fans turning on Page. I mean probably not because Page is like, actually good and not lame as gently caress. Also the TNT Title is a thing. Bryan could probably make magic with that forever and never have to touch the world title.

This is all a thought exercise I'm not saying I think Bryan is coming out at the casino battle royal as the Joker to valiantly and handsomely eliminate the other final contestant *checks notes* Luther?!

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Quantum of Phallus posted:

whaaaat
is this real? why wouldn't they put that on TV

The pieces fit too neatly for it to be accidental. and I'm guessing it'll be talked about in the following weeks once they start to flesh out all the grudge matches that popped out of Miro winning.

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

MJeff posted:

So I've been thinking. And theoretically, say AEW did get the wrestler formerly known as Daniel Bryan. Obviously he'd be a huge boon for the company in every way. But do you abandon your plan to put Page over Omega to have Bryan go over Omega instead?

I guess I'm wondering if you bring in Bryan, then have Page still beat Omega, you dont risk the fans turning on Page. I mean probably not because Page is like, actually good and not lame as gently caress. Also the TNT Title is a thing. Bryan could probably make magic with that forever and never have to touch the world title.

This is all a thought exercise I'm not saying I think Bryan is coming out at the casino battle royal as the Joker to valiantly and handsomely eliminate the other final contestant *checks notes* Luther?!

1000% no to all of this. Bryan has said he wanted to work all sorts of places and he is the last person in the world who needs to win a belt or have a run at a champion to prove anything. ANYONE else going over Omega and abandoning the longform story with a guy they've built up since day 1 would be the worst possible thing.

If you bring in Bryan it'd be to have some kind of gatekeeper exhibition or two versus a guy like Page, if anything. I'd let him have a barnburner with one of the Death Triangle guys or MJF, something like that. But even if he did get a match with Omega I'd prefer it happen after he's dropped the belt.

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup :)


MJeff posted:

So I've been thinking. And theoretically, say AEW did get the wrestler formerly known as Daniel Bryan. Obviously he'd be a huge boon for the company in every way. But do you abandon your plan to put Page over Omega to have Bryan go over Omega instead?

I guess I'm wondering if you bring in Bryan, then have Page still beat Omega, you dont risk the fans turning on Page. I mean probably not because Page is like, actually good and not lame as gently caress. Also the TNT Title is a thing. Bryan could probably make magic with that forever and never have to touch the world title.

This is all a thought exercise I'm not saying I think Bryan is coming out at the casino battle royal as the Joker to valiantly and handsomely eliminate the other final contestant *checks notes* Luther?!

I like Daniel Bryan a lot but if Hangmin beat him for the title or a title shot it would only make Hangmin more over with me.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
Call up Death Triangle and Mox/Kingston next and fully form Death Riders, Sting.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

MJeff posted:

So I've been thinking. And theoretically, say AEW did get the wrestler formerly known as Daniel Bryan. Obviously he'd be a huge boon for the company in every way. But do you abandon your plan to put Page over Omega to have Bryan go over Omega instead?

Absolutely not. Page winning over Omega will be nearly two years in the making when it happens. You don't toss that aside unless you've decided you're never doing anything with Hangman.

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

You wouldn't put Daniel Bryan right into the title. You'd have him feud with a few guys first. Literally anyone would be amazing.

Why didn't Sting help Darby as Miro beat the poo poo out of him before the bell? You had one job!

boxcarhobo
Jun 23, 2005

the joker will be viktor from ascension

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Brian Danielson vs Mike Sydal; green energy vs YOGA ENERGY

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Alan_Shore posted:

You wouldn't put Daniel Bryan right into the title. You'd have hime feud with a few guys first. Literally anyone would be amazing.

Why didn't Sting help Darby as Miro beat the poo poo out of him before the bell? You had one job!

Sting respects Darby's fortitude. Had Sting gotten into the ring, it was well within the ref's purview to throw the whole thing out and try again next week.

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

Alan_Shore posted:

You wouldn't put Daniel Bryan right into the title. You'd have him feud with a few guys first. Literally anyone would be amazing.

Why didn't Sting help Darby as Miro beat the poo poo out of him before the bell? You had one job!

Sting has true dad energy and knew this is nobody's fight but Darby's, he got involved with a monster and has to face it alone. If Miro had like, other people interfere in a gang maybe it'd be different.

Also Darby has done the "attack someone from behind/before match starts" thing so much that it's fair game now lol.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
RING DA BELL!!!! *CLOBBER*

RING DA BELL!!!!!

the beginning of that match was so loving dope

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


Bryan doesn't need to be put over anyone.

There's two reasons to put a title on someone: to elevate the guy or to elevate the title. Jericho made the AEW title seem like a huge deal. Mox maintained this with some incredible hard hitting defenses, while making himself look even bigger for having it. Kenny has turned holding the title into the most compelling heel act in the business today. The title is every bit as elevated as it needs to be.

The next logical step is that you take this supercharged title and you put it around the waist of your next marquee main eventer, and it makes them. To my mind that should be Hangman.

Bryan - and don't get me wrong, I love Bryan - doesn't add to this. Especially not if he's fresh in the door. If he heads to AEW, he's heading there to have the dream matches he hasn't been able to have (or hasn't had for a long time). I don't think he needs an ounce of gold on him.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
No point in derailing your belt plans so let's have Bryan work an extended program with Bear Country

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



IF Bryan came in, there's so many people he could work with that it could be at least a year or more before he'd even get close to the World Title.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



If you bring Danielson in it's for a short feud to Kenny which he loses before going to the G1 or whatever.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Bryan can wrestle Christian Cage until we all agree they both need to retire

Jackie D
May 27, 2009

Democracy is like a tambourine - not everyone can be trusted with it.


Bryan-Omega is probably the biggest match aew could theoretically make, but it also doesn't need to be for the title, they can do it after Page wins at All Out (?)

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Lamuella posted:

There's two reasons to put a title on someone: to elevate the guy or to elevate the title.

I disagree. Those two things are in service of the reasons you put a belt on someone but they aren't the reasons themselves. You put a title on someone to tell stories and draw money. Hopefully, both at the same time.

Hangman is obviously the better story. I guess I'm just wondering if Bryan wouldn't be a bigger draw with the title than without it.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

I've watched some recent Danielson matches and he's not the same anymore. That's not the dude that Jimmy Jacobs had to stab in the eye to beat. That's not even the Team Hell No guy. He should just retire imo.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

coconono posted:

I've watched some recent Danielson matches and he's not the same anymore. That's not the dude that Jimmy Jacobs had to stab in the eye to beat. That's not even the Team Hell No guy. He should just retire imo.

He's not but in his defense he very blatantly and openly does not care about what he's doing right now. He has outright stated he feels nothing. Hopefully a change of scenery would fix that.

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



now think about what dean ambrose's last month in wwe looked like and how little anyone would want to see that specific guy wrassling

Eat My Fuc
May 29, 2007

Daniel Bryan should get the proposed Bob Holly push everywhere he goes “I beat everybody”

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Aye Doc posted:

now think about what dean ambrose's last month in wwe looked like and how little anyone would want to see that specific guy wrassling

I feel like until he dropped that twitter video nobody gave a poo poo that he was leaving except me and Foochs.

Penguin Patrol
Mar 3, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Very excited to see the hemp version of the AEW belt

Kunabomber
Oct 1, 2002


Pillbug
we're at the bryan danielson phase of the thread

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

gonna be v funny when DB turns up at Wrestlemania Backlash on Sunday

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup :)


Quantum of Phallus posted:

gonna be v funny when DB turns up at Wrestlemania Backlash on Sunday

Managed by Zelina Vega

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Mons Hubris posted:

Managed by Zelina Vega

With Andrade and Keith Lee as his back up.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
And the joker at DoN is Alberto. :v:

Here's one. Who's the WORST possible Joker.

a cyborg mug
Mar 8, 2010



Kunabomber posted:

we're at the bryan danielson phase of the thread

I’m sorry to hear that this thread has become a farm

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coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Jimmy Havoc

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