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Aglet56 posted:master and commander is frequently mocked for featuring the British as heroes, but were the napoleonic french much better? we're talking about a government that actively battled against the Haitian revolution after all. I hate to be the "both sides" guy but it's hard to see the French adversaries in master and commander as the real heroes of the story yeah you can probably argue that maybe napoleon was marginally better, but even then it's not like anyone had a serious moral high ground. it's just fun to rag on the english. also watch the duelists if you haven't
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i haven't seen it since the theaters but doesn't M&C show pressgangs of sailors and incompetent children as officers?
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May 23, 2021 08:11
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Barry Lyndon is a drat good movie.
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i say swears online posted:i haven't seen it since the theaters but doesn't M&C show pressgangs of sailors and incompetent children as officers? This would be historically accurate.
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i say swears online posted:i haven't seen it since the theaters but doesn't M&C show pressgangs of sailors and incompetent children as officers? One of the main characters is 12- he's not really incompetent but some of the only slightly older officers are- and there's a couple even younger kids in the background; the only impressment we actually see is picking up survivors of a raided whaler but Mautrin refers to it a few times
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StashAugustine posted:yeah russell crowe kills it but i appreciated mautrin a lot more on this rewatch. i should actually read the books i think I'm up to the tenth book and they're excellent. It's a testament to how good O'Brian's writing is that I got so hooked by the adventures of a Tory captain and a turncoat ex-United Irishman.
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Atrocious Joe posted:Studying political science in a liberal arts college is literally one of the worst ways to figure out what is real. big mood. in one of the 2 poli sci classes I took in college I was told that my essay on how USA and UN sanctions on Iraq contributed to the mass death of civilians 'sounded like a OP ed' and combined with having to take a day off due to protesting dick cheny being invited by poo poo head college republicans to campus i got a D on the paper and dropped the class lmao
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Stairmaster posted:oh thank god, they're not doing a full on reboot it's just they brought back bruce timm to make a new show I like Bruce Timm, but he's a weird horndog so I'm not sure what to think of this. Anyway, all the old Batman, Batman Beyond, Justice League, and Justice League Unlimited cartoons are all on HBO Max. Also Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Space Ghost Coast to Coast. So if you're into all of that, HBO Max is a worthy investment.
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StashAugustine posted:yeah you can probably argue that maybe napoleon was marginally better, but even then it's not like anyone had a serious moral high ground. it's just fun to rag on the english. also watch the duelists if you haven't quality film, incredible accents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X66Cp4-1p_I
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May 23, 2021 09:33
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Sudden mental image: Napoleonic Wars with giant wooden robots
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The Principality of ZEON BUT Its the Principality of Napol-EON heh! heh! Am I right?? Woo!
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Blood Boils posted:Hey now lucky jack is a hero and a patriot who feels guilty every time his hubris gets a bunch of his slave/child soldiers killed I love how at the end of the film, when he realizes the French commander has escaped, he's all excited and happy at getting to match wits against the dude again instead of just handing him over to hang. This despite the super sad scene of the cabin boy losing his arm not twenty minutes earlier. It was a pretty big tonal whiplash moment for me when I watched it the first time. Falstaff has issued a correction as of 10:49 on May 23, 2021 |
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Falstaff posted:I love how at the end of the film, when he realizes the French commander has escaped, he's all excited and happy at getting to match wits against the dude again instead of just handing him over to hang. This despite the super sad scene of the cabin boy losing his arm not twenty minutes earlier. It was a pretty big tonal whiplash moment for me when I watched it the first time. http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=327
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Forceholy posted:Is Under the Silver Lake any good? no, but people liked it anyway
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Watched a couple of movies over the weekend ___ "Those Who Wish Me Dead" with Angelina Jolie is a fun movie that reminds me a lot of the original Shooter film with Mark Wahlberg in theme and feeling. It's a good action movie that I'd recommend. ___ "Enola Holmes" is a huge mess. It turns Mycroft into this guy that's supposed to be at least as, if not even more intelligent than Sherlock is, with the flaw that he works for The Man, and just takes the latter part of it with none of the texturing of the former. In this movie he's just a moustache-twirling bastard of an archconservative with no redeeming value. The movie itself explores themes of feminism, social change, and the deep state's efforts to repress women's suffrage, but it ultimately descends into this liberal scolding against radicalism and puts the onus on calm, measured reform obtained via the House of loving Lords as the real way to Get Things Done. It's also quite misleading by giving the impression that women managed to acquire the vote within the 19th century if you view the film as a semi-historical account, when in reality the UK only acquired large-scale women's enfranchisement by at least 1918 (8.4 million women, over 30, with property qualifications), or 1928 for near-full enfranchisement (anyone over 21, same terms as men). I'm willing to give the movie a lot of leeway in trying to portray women as already being as liberal (if not outright socialist) as they were in the late 1800s, because I'm sure such people existed, even as a pastiche, but what the movie actually does with the material just ends up being hardly better than a Victorian version of Fight Song.
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KomradeX posted:Nothing Zack Snyder does with the DC is even close to aa good as the DCAU did with these same characters 20 years ago and doesn't have edgy bullshit weighing ît down Yes I'm sure cartoons are the best thing ever, thanks Weird to hear Jolie is in a good movie , I can't think of anything I've liked her in in forever Also I watched audition and was insanely grossed out beyond all belief in a few scenes, had to look away. Good lord. Then watched timecop as a palate cleanser. Not very good but was fun for a while, although the final setpiece absolutely sucked mastershakeman has issued a correction as of 18:27 on May 23, 2021 |
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May 23, 2021 18:25
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Snyder cultists are cucking themselves for the Christian Scientist director in full force again smh
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Just finished Army off the Dead. That movie's got some problems. Spoilers to follow. I mostly watched it to see Bautista in a leading, non-comedic role, and while he's not terrible he struggles at times. Just about everyone around him carries him through his scenes. He tends to play things large, which works a lot better in comedy than in this. The way the movie just completely wastes Ana de la Reguera is downright criminal - she barely does anything. The dialogue is atrocious. Just embarrassingly bad at parts; I don't think a single character gets away without engaging in some cliche, and most have scenes where they just stop talking like human beings entirely. The billionaire dude is probably the worst at this, and I get I'm supposed to think he's eccentric, but for me it just comes across as cringe-worthy. The worldbuilding falls apart in one point for me; specifically, if the Vegas is where the zombie threat emerged, and it was walled off and contained, how does a character like Guzman make any sense? A social media star who goes around killing zombies, and yet it's pretty obvious he's never been to Vegas before. It's possible I missed something, but if there were other outbreaks it weakens the impact of the ending. I'd say the twist that the billionaire doesn't care about his money but just wants a zombie head for research was half-baked, mostly because if he doesn't care one way or the other why does he need the team killed off? In fact, why not just hire a team to get the zombie head directly? But I'll give that a pass since he's a billionaire and I can believe he'd just want them offed for spite's sake. It doesn't really explain what happened to the other teams though, unless Dieter was telling the truth when he said he didn't know anything about the previous teams. Why didn't Geeta and the other women try to escape? They weren't locked up or restrained in any way, and for a while the Olympus seemed mostly empty. I get they're scared, but it's pretty obvious they're living on borrowed time so you'd think they'd at least make some kind of attempt rather than wait for someone with a gun to show up and rescue them, particularly given they know they've got a nuclear-based time limit to make it out. I just would have appreciated it if there were some kind of barrier there they were unable to overcome themselves. And after all that, Kate doesn't even manage to save Geeta? What a waste of time that b-plot turned out to be. All that said, there were some redeeming qualities. Some of the fight scenes are decent, with probably the best being Chambers' (I legitimately didn't know how that one was going to play out - Snyder managed to keep me guessing right up until the end of the scene), and I liked the bromance that developed between Vanderohe and the German dude. I'll also give props to the presidential announcements, which made me laugh out loud at one point.
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yeah it’s a crap movie, somehow managed to neither be interesting as a schlocky dead rising rip off, nor an intense thriller , completely empty
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I can't imagine what kind of social commentary Synder would have for Army of the Dead. Either libertarian nonsense or 'nothing here just blowing up zombies'.
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It's all about the importance of family. Oh, I forgot to mention one thing that stood out for me... Snyder's made two zombie movies so far, and both of them involve a zombie fetus. It's a bit of a strange fixation imo.
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army of the dead could easily have been a great 90 min zombie action movie
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josh04 posted:quality film, incredible accents I could be remembering wrong but I think Carradine and Keitel were the only American actors and/or the only actors that did not adopt the British accent as a stand in for French. I think it suits the movie well. It accentuates the contrast between their relationship and the constant upheaval in the movie's backdrop.
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I know Romero had one more Living Dead movie to wrap it all up (Twilight of the Dead) and his wife is working on it. I'd laugh if Synder gets allowed to do it. It'd be awful.
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josh04 posted:quality film, incredible accents The Duelists rules so hard. Scott's upcoming films will be a good test of whether he's still got it. One is about the last sanctioned trial by combat in France and another is about Napoleon and Josephine.
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Tricky D posted:army of the dead could easily have been a great 90 min zombie action movie Yeah you chop out the daughter and her side mission and you're in great shape. I think it's clear there was more spread early on with Guzman and even Batista's flashback, but they got stamped out easier than vegas for obvious reasons
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Falstaff posted:It's all about the importance of family. being a christian, this is a pro-life message.
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also you dont have to use spoiler tags here
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the avowed fascist has made yet another film MeatwadIsGod posted:The Duelists rules so hard. Scott's upcoming films will be a good test of whether he's still got it. One is about the last sanctioned trial by combat in France and another is about Napoleon and Josephine. Scott's had a couple of hits this decade, it's amazing that he's still going really.
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Really? Movie just came out and there's at least a couple Snyder fans in the thread, but okay. I'll refrain in the future.
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the end of the duelist is just great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U42GtADJo8
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none of Snyder's movies are as fascistic as Nolan's Dark Knight stuff
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josh04 posted:quality film, incredible accents Duelists was top notch especially the variety in the fights and how it was based on a real historical story for feud that went over years.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:The Duelists rules so hard. Scott's upcoming films will be a good test of whether he's still got it. One is about the last sanctioned trial by combat in France and another is about Napoleon and Josephine. don't forget raised by wolves season 2
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sometimes i just put on some garbage I find on hbo because the movies they option for streaming are sometimes amusing but holy crap Serving Sara is a terrible movie.
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Falstaff posted:Really? Movie just came out and there's at least a couple Snyder fans in the thread, but okay. I'll refrain in the future.
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mastershakeman posted:Also I watched audition and was insanely grossed out beyond all belief in a few scenes, had to look away. Good lord. Then watched timecop as a palate cleanser. Not very good but was fun for a while, although the final setpiece absolutely sucked Audition is something alright. It's the only picture where I've had to leave the theatre briefly because it was just too much. A good movie? Not sure, but it's extraordinary. Re Duellists talk, is it implied that just after the final scene, Keitel's character jumps to his death? It doesn't change the ending in any way, but I think I recall reading an essay that said that.
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