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Arcsquad12 posted:I miss The Wizard's Tower. Its a tragedy Wizards Tower wasn't in the Ubersreik pack. By far one of my favorite V1 maps.
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I miss small fast maps like Ramparts or the one with the 6 sacks of wheat. Also cursed rune, best map ever.
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Wheat and Chaff still gives me nightmares. The DLC maps in VT1 were also good, except for The Dungeons. No surprise that the worst DLC map in VT2 also uses that goddamn torch mechanic.
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field balm posted:Kruber's fake accent is amazing lol I've never heard any of that dialogue. They really killed the team interaction vibes in this game. The tragic dual meaning is they also killed the team interactions because their lovely bizarre code suppresses everything but ABOUT CASTLE DRACHENFELS so yeah I had never heard any of this great dialogue either and who knows what else I'm missing.
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The good news is that Chaos Wastes has, for the most part, knocked the Castle Drachenfels keep banter on the head now. You can actually hear them talking about literally loving anything else.
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Apart from level design and color palette, i liked the voiceovers in the first game more too. I mean, you dont get this kinda saltzpyre in vt2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkWKbUFnJ20&t=197s poo poo, i could listen to the two of them all day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XUJ_x5DDcI Yolomon Wayne fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Serpentis posted:The good news is that Chaos Wastes has, for the most part, knocked the Castle Drachenfels keep banter on the head now. You can actually hear them talking about literally loving anything else. Now it's just "Which god do you think is the worst / would you like to be" and "FROGS?!"
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One of the dwarf fortress DLC maps from VT 1 was so good I'm surprised it hasn't been featured in 2. I forget what it was called though. Plus I will also say Wizards Tower was amazing. What a map. Related to chaos wastes, Nurgle has to be the worst. I hate spamming T to try to spot a cursed enemy who will explode and hurt you, and they're impossible to avoid in hordes. Then the "stay together or nurgle will make the game unplayable" map effect really sucks because someone has to carry the magic torch and people can be dicks with it.
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Rabelais D posted:One of the dwarf fortress DLC maps from VT 1 was so good I'm surprised it hasn't been featured in 2. I forget what it was called though. Plus I will also say Wizards Tower was amazing. What a map. There were 3 map, one of which was a short outdoor and then 1 large indoor and outdoor - Khazid Kro (indoor), Ciursed Rune (long outdoor) and Chain of Fire (short outdoor) all of which were super good.
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Fishstick posted:Now it's just "Which god do you think is the worst / would you like to be" and "FROGS?!" True enough in battle, but the keep banter is actually significantly better now Drachenfels has stopped being the only topic of the day. Rabelais D posted:Related to chaos wastes, Nurgle has to be the worst. I hate spamming T to try to spot a cursed enemy who will explode and hurt you, and they're impossible to avoid in hordes. Then the "stay together or nurgle will make the game unplayable" map effect really sucks because someone has to carry the magic torch and people can be dicks with it. Yup, Nurgle's the worst. The torch bubble one is miserable, the hexed enemies bursting into gas is just annoying (mainly because even with the sickly green effect, as you say, it's a pain to spot them in hordes) and the haunting sorceror, though the best of the 3, is still irritating at best.
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The nurgle torch isn't so bad since you get all your health back when you re-enter the bubble so you aren't punished for coin hunting that badly.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:There were 3 map, one of which was a short outdoor and then 1 large indoor and outdoor - Khazid Kro (indoor), Ciursed Rune (long outdoor) and Chain of Fire (short outdoor) all of which were super good. Ah thanks, I was talking about Cursed Rune then, but you're right, all three were really good.
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Got a friend into this recently thanks to the steam warhammer sale. We can both matchmake into full parties when we're solo but when we play together no one ever drops into our games. Has anyone else had this issue recently?
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What difficulty are you playing on? If it's recruit or veteran there's probably fewer players, once you do champion and up it should be fine.
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You could also try coordinating joining the same game through the lobby browser.
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Best part of Karak Azgaraz DLC though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df44935r_do&t=91s
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Diogenes of Sinope posted:What difficulty are you playing on? If it's recruit or veteran there's probably fewer players, once you do champion and up it should be fine. Huh, I figured there would be a large influx of new players from the steam sale playing on lower difficulties. We've been playing on veteran since we don't want to deal with friendly fire. I guess we can just try getting good. Tagichatn posted:You could also try coordinating joining the same game through the lobby browser. My friend is an elf gamer  so I assumed that would limit this option, but we haven't really tried it. Also, I prefer to host my own lobbies so I don't have to deal with kick happy hosts. (Been seeing that a bit in Deep Rock Galactic but maybe it's not much of a thing in VT2?) We also don't like bothering with tomes and grimoires and I assume I'm going to run into powergamers getting mad at us for not looking for them on higher difficulties.We'll try these things next session though, thanks for the suggestions. Diephoon fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jun 13, 2021 |
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I think you'll fill games on champ. If people complain about your level, tell them to suck poo poo, it's champ. If they're a long-time player in champ it either means they're just screwing around while drunk or they're too terrible for Legend, where everyone plays
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Diephoon posted:Huh, I figured there would be a large influx of new players from the steam sale playing on lower difficulties. We've been playing on veteran since we don't want to deal with friendly fire. I guess we can just try getting good. Friendly fire on champ is fairly negligible. It's mostly just annoying. Move on up. I don't see kicks happen very often. Only once since I started playing again, for a dude who was afk. You'll definitely get people who pick up tomes/grims, though I can't say how many of them will get mad if you don't pick up the ones they've pinged since you don't tend to see people straight up refusing to grab anything other than grim #2 (nobody knowing where some of the tomes/grims are is common, on the other hand). Regardless, the game isn't really much tougher until you take that second grim which is admittedly quite crippling, even with curse resist gear.
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In general people don't seem kick-happy but I guess I've had bad luck in the past week. First, I got kicked for being a 'lowbie' since I was level 32 on legendary CW then I got kicked because I voted against the other 3 then the game went with my vote. Lastly, I asked the elf and sienna to kill the nurgle spectre because they have infinite ammo and the elf took this personally, first saying that she was deaf (dunno what that has to do with it) then saying that the moonfire bow does a dot so it just scares it off and doesn't kill it which isn't true. Then she kicked me. Before that, I went months without any negative experiences unless you count people running off and dying but as long as they're not being dicks in voice or text chat I don't care.
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Can't speak to the other ones but if all three people want to go to a node, I say gently caress it and go there. Not my fault if it sucks. Definitely not worth kicking someone over though unless you were picking movement speed over crit chance or something
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big cummers ONLY posted:Can't speak to the other ones but if all three people want to go to a node, I say gently caress it and go there. Not my fault if it sucks. Definitely not worth kicking someone over though unless you were picking movement speed over crit chance or something Fatshark said at launch of CW they were going to turn it into a simple majority vote (you know, like it pretends to be in the map screen) instead of a 75% chance vs 25% chance the system is now. But apparently this is really hard because it still hasn't occurred.
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Then they realized that in 4 player coop a majority vote can extremely fast go 2-2 and you need a tiebreaker mechanic and they just went with 25% chance per vote. Is my guess.
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In a 2/2 split go with the host, because it's the host's game. Hire me fatshark
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Fishstick posted:In a 2/2 split go with the host, because it's the host's game. Hire me fatshark This is way too simple and intuitive to fly at fatshark
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What are the most important breakpoints on Legend+? Stormvermin in one heavy?
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For what weapon on what character/career?
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I see people talking about hitting breakpoints to oneshot specials or elites with your ranged weapon, usually specified as bodyshots or headshots
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Ok just so were on the same page, those are breakpoints for Bardins Ranger Veteran melee Weapons for example: (taken from here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1832306381) Hammer Stagger Breakpoints: 20% Chaos, Opportunist Push attack/heavy attack/light attack 1/2 stagger Stormvermin/Mauler/Bestigor all attacks Axe & Shield Stagger Breakpoints: 20% skaven, Enhanced Power, Opportunist Push stagger Stormvermin/Bestigor/Mauler/Savage/Monk all attacks Here are some for Grail Knight Exe Sword: (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1831243904) Breakpoints: Passive, Smiter, 10% Chaos, 10% armour, Virtue of Knightly Temper Heavy attack oneshot-headshot SV/Bestigor Crit light attack oneshot-bodyshot all mobs and SV/Bestigor/Mauler/Monk/Savage Crit heavy attack oneshot-bodyshot all elites, including CW To go with his Sword and Shield: Stagger Breakpoints: Opportunist Push stagger Stormvermin/Bestigor/Mauler/Savage all attacks Push follow up with light shieldbash stagger Gun rat/Fire rat from their attack animation Breakpoints: Passive, Smiter, Virtue of Knightly Temper Crit shield bash oneshot-bodyshot most of horde mobs Marauder/Gor need to be staggered first to be oneshot Crit heavy attack 1 oneshot-bodyshot all elites except CW Crit heavy attack 3 oneshot-bodyshot all elites, including CW Those are the *breakpoints* people are talking about. Above values are for cataclysm, so they will work 100% on legend (though some will be overkill)
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I've been going through the base campaign on Legend with each character to unlock the skins lately, rushing through solo. And I've gotta say, as a bot, the new Kerillian subclass is really growing on me. With briarthorn she ults all the drat time and never misses, sometimes pulling off ridiculous feats like using it to snipe a midair assassin or catch something on the other side of a wall. Vs specials, monsters, and chaos warriors it helps so much, so frequently. The +healing for the party is very nice and while Kerillian tends to take a poo poo ton more damage than other bots, she stays alive pretty well thanks to your excess THP being funneled into her and the healing bonus. I run her with dual swords and the sanctioned AI mod to make bots prioritize light attacks more, so she clears hordes well and the dual swords light attack crit bonus gives her good THP regen on her own. Toss in moonfire bow and I think she's a competitor for best bot when previously I felt Kerillian was the worst of the bunch.
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SuperKlaus posted:Vermintide has enormous meme energy and it owes it to two sources: Skaven being nutty and excellent player character voiced dialogue / characterization. Darktide won't have the former so I'm I got faith. 40k enemies can be plenty silly (especially Nurgle Daemons and rogue guardsmen), and the different wings of the Imperium can be catty as hell towards each other.
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Eh, I'd rather there be overlap than them just rehashing Nurgle cultists. I'm not super excited for the enemy roster so far considering it's basically "those guys from Vermintide, In Space". Like, I'm sure they'll be mechanically distinct but I'd like some thematic variety.
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A Genestealer cult would be pretty rad though. Chaos never gets enough flavor to be a genuinely repped threat, and no one is brave enough to do a Slaaneshii incursion.
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Kokoro Wish posted:A Genestealer cult would be pretty rad though. Chaos never gets enough flavor to be a genuinely repped threat, and no one is brave enough to do a Slaaneshii incursion. Dongs and hyperdrugs as far as the eye can see
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field balm posted:Dongs and hyperdrugs as far as the eye can see Slaanesh isn't just drugs and sex, it's all forms of excess. And when people are creative that can make some cool stuff. Like chariot riders that have spikes in their reigns so they can grip down and feel the spikes dig in, people that chase after being perfect in combat (Sigvald), poo poo straight out of hellraiser where a person is turned into a living harp, or just stuff like this dude: 
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Floppychop posted:I'm kind of surprised they didn't choose orks or tyranids for the main enemy in darktide. They both do the swarming melee dudes schtick. Orks are too fun, which is why FatShark would never pick them.
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Floppychop posted:Slaanesh isn't just drugs and sex, it's all forms of excess. And when people are creative that can make some cool stuff. Like chariot riders that have spikes in their reigns so they can grip down and feel the spikes dig in, people that chase after being perfect in combat (Sigvald), poo poo straight out of hellraiser where a person is turned into a living harp, or just stuff like this dude: Just give me Noise Marines. A single Noise Marine as a boss even, I’m not picky. THIS QUIET OFFENDS SLANEESH.
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