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LostRook posted:The Daimons are twins, I fully expect that Odokawa spilled info to the wrong one at some point. They seem like the only two that could fool his animal sense. Especially with the constant "Are you secretly smart?" stuff that's been dropped a couple times. i don't think OD could realistically pose as YD, dude's a prick on the other hand, because he's a prick, i can definitely see him screening YD's calls and messages from time to time. it's plausible that he intercepted odokawa's tip to his little brother and went down there to deal with dobu himself, so that YD would stop doubting him either way the daimons are a gigantic weakspot in dobu's plan and would probably be where it failed if odokawa wasn't planning to scuttle it before it even gets that far. it's totally possible that yano sees through yamamoto's ruse, takes the money, falls into dobu's trap, and then everything explodes anyway because one of the daimons snap and put a bullet in somebody instead of going along. operation ODDTAXI is going to be a catastrophe side note: dobu pausing and then just saying ODDTAXI again when odokawa isn't impressed is probably his most endearing moment. the violent career criminal so badly wanted his little codename to sound cool
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The Alpaca was hiding in Odakawa's trunk, right? There's no way she just appeared in a random construction yard without any vehicle of her own. I thought it was very interesting how Odakawa, shown to be a cunning walrus, never once asked the Alpaca about how she got there or how she found him. He was clearly thinking about it when he pivoted to Skull-face's GPS tracker. I wonder if he was expecting to find two separate trackers in the back seat...
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Every week I get surprised by the ED kicking in after some shocking cliffhanger. It's such a bop, I love the whiplash it gives.
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the excellent alternate ED that played over shibagaki and baba's deteriorating relationship is also literally about a comedy duo's breakup this show's music doesn't miss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqI5ougDNAw
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LostRook posted:The Daimons are twins, I fully expect that Odokawa spilled info to the wrong one at some point. They seem like the only two that could fool his animal sense. Especially with the constant "Are you secretly smart?" stuff that's been dropped a couple times. Something's definitely going to go wrong with the heist operation, it's just a matter of what and when.
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FYI, someone uploaded the soundtrack to Youtube. It's pretty great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hl26Ye_WXI
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Also on spotify https://open.spotify.com/album/6RMxOfvqHqilQUEzHgv5yjKung Food posted:Some big confirmations this episode. The show had already confirmed there were different people from the very beginning, one of the trailers named the current Mystery Kiss member https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2h_--ng8rk&t=54s and one of the first episodes had the wota mention Mitsuya's name.
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I'm really starting to wonder how much Tanaka is actually a red herring. So in the last episode Dobu gets shot and assumes immediately it's the skull mask, but the framing and the fact that they are hiding the identity of the shooter means it almost certainly isn't. Besides, why would Tanaka shoot Dobu? Similarly, Odokawa finds the gunshot in his window and assumes it's Tanaka as well, but is it? If it was Tanaka that would imply he knew where Odokawa lived, and the dude is obsessed and violent, if you were a gacha addicted lunatic who wanted to murder someone I imagine you wouldn't shoot in the window and give him advance warning, you'd hide out at his place and kill him when he came home. So if it wasn't him, who actually fired those shots? It was suggested earlier that maybe the shooter was Shirakawa, and after some thought I'm actually starting to come around on that idea. There is definitely something going on with Shirakawa in this episode, especially with the way that she just appeared out of nowhere to save Odokawa after Yamamoto went out of his way to send the cab out into the middle of nowhere. With Goriki going on a voyage what is she doing? I think it's possible she's also tailing Odokawa to try and cover for him and protect him. And it would make sense both in universe and in genre. Let's take a step back for a moment, what if Shirakawa was more involved in Dobu's enterprises than she's letting on? Goriki pointed out if she seriously wanted to she probably could've gotten out of his employ earlier, and she's weirdly supportive of Dobu despite allegedly being put under duress by him. She has repeatedly gone to bat for him, and Dobu had absolutely no problem forgiving her debts despite being really focused on bringing in money for his boss. Maybe the reason it's no skin off his back is because she's been a willing perpetrator for a while and the "debt" is just a cover story to hide the fact that she's associating with the yakuza. If that's true that would also explain how she would get a gun, she probably has some contacts. Or maybe it was hers to begin with. She might also be a lot more vicious then she appears, maybe she was actually aiming to kill Dobu to guarantee Odokawa is out of trouble and missed. And in genre? If Shirakawa was a criminal it would be a thematic slamdunk. Odokawa is out there trying to rescue an innocent girl trapped in a horrible fate, with the reveal that she is neither innocent nor trapped being an on point plot twist. That kind of cynicism is as noir as it comes. On the other hand, that still doesn't completely explain the GPS tracker. If it was Shirakawa that explains how she got to the wharf and the construction site, but was Tanaka really just that lucky to be driving a van at exactly the right moment to ambush Odokawa? But on the other hand if he did have a GPS tracker in Odokawa's car, why would he randomly chase him down with a van instead of just waiting for him to stop somewhere and killing him then? The van attack seemed like it could've been an attack of opportunity, and in his episode he stated he's basically just been wandering around popular taxi spots for months now. One last other question, has anyone been paying attention to how many shots Tanaka has actually fired? He has a revolver with six shots, has he fired all of them yet? That might actually be another tell, if Tanaka has literally shot all his rounds and then there's a seventh shot at the wharf. So, to consider things from another angle what mysteries do we have yet to resolve? Besides the aforementioned I think the remaining big mysteries are probably, in no particular order: What's going on with Odokawa's history? We pretty much know for almost certain that Odokawa is disassociating people and seeing them as animals, and it probably has to do with whatever accident he was in, but that can't be the only reveal, right? There's also the mystery foundation and Odokawa's line this episode about wanting to pay back the people who helped him which is suggestive. Where is the Homo sapiens storyline going? A show this intricate wouldn't just introduce the giraffe kid for no reason, but I'm really not sure where the storyline is going. They might be going towards a portrait of the show's themes, or they could accidentally end up being a weird spoiler in the final heist. What really happened with the missing girl? It seems pretty clear by now that there was a replacement Yuki at some point judging by that line about dancing and the masks, but what actually happened? Who killed her? Who knew she was killed? When was she killed? Who replaced her? And more importantly, did whatever happened to Yuki actually have anything to do with the missing girl? That possibility suddenly hit me as I was putting together all of my weird thoughts on this episode. The fact that she's from Nerima is mention to make it seem like she's missing girl, but is she? The news didn't say, it identified her as Yuki from Mystery Kiss. Looking back, did the show ever tell us the name of the missing girl? Dobu said that the missing girl wasn't on Odokawa's dash cam, but the show seems pretty certain she was in his car, did he delete it or something? And Odokawa identified the closest match as the Mystery Kiss girl, but he doesn't mention her name we don't see her in that scene, and wouldn't Dobu know for sure what she looks like? And then there's the vague possibility that Odokawa was shielding her and lied, we never saw the photo… There's also the "it's not her" line at the end which could mean a lot of different things including "it's not the girl I gave a ride to". This whole situation is a Gordian knot. What's going on with the Daimon brothers? It's safe to assume they're going to be wildcards in operation ODDTAXI, but it feels like there's one more reveal waiting to go. That line about losing their parents to a taxi driver and the reverse shot of the accident suggests there's a little bit more to them. What actually is in Odokawa's room? This could just be another red herring, but the show has been repeatedly teasing something is in there. It could be nothing, but is it? gently caress me, this show is a trip. Ignis posted:The show had already confirmed there were different people from the very beginning, one of the trailers named the current Mystery Kiss member The thing you're pointing out is that she is listed as "Maya Yuki", right? I think that's just a translation hiccup, the spelling in kanji for her surname reads "Mitsuya" just like it is in the show and if you compare the kanji to the ones that appear on screen in the news report they also match exactly.
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Omnicrom posted:What actually is in Odokawa's room? This could just be another red herring, but the show has been repeatedly teasing something is in there. It could be nothing, but is it? I really like the idea suggested by someone up thread that it's a literal house cat.
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wasn't the person that planted the cell phone in Odokawa's taxi the Yuki currently in Mystery Kiss? In the episode where she's getting driven to the club she slides a phone into the folds of his car seat
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Electric Phantasm posted:Absolutely hooting and hollering when this happened. capoeira ftw
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Anora posted:wasn't the person that planted the cell phone in Odokawa's taxi the Yuki currently in Mystery Kiss? In the episode where she's getting driven to the club she slides a phone into the folds of his car seat Really good eye! I want back to watch then I noticed in episode 5 at around 2:13, before Yuki is getting in the cab she nods to someone in another car and then we see this:  Someone handed her a cellphone before she got into the car, same sleeve as the second shooter. As the camera pulls back and we see this:  Looks like another cab. The license plate says *46*15. Has that shown up anywhere before? Something to look out for. The driver should be on the right side correct? Meaning it was handed to her by a passenger and not the driver. Omnicrom posted:The thing you're pointing out is that she is listed as "Maya Yuki", right? I think that's just a translation hiccup, the spelling in kanji for her surname reads "Mitsuya" just like it is in the show and if you compare the kanji to the ones that appear on screen in the news report they also match exactly.  He called current the Yuki Mitsuya! What does this mean? Is the dead girl the current Yuki after all? Edit: Re-watched the news report scene and the reporter says it was a body found in October that was identified as Yuki Mitsuya. Has Yuki made an appearance after the Halloween episode? There is still the part where Odokawa says it isn't her, so probably not current Yuki? And just to confirm here is Yuki/Mitsuya hiding the cellphone into the back of Odokawa's cab.  So it really can't be Tanaka hiding the phone/tracker. But this does explain how 2nd shooter knew they would be at the docks. How Shirakawa knew to be at the empty lot is unexplained unless she is behind the bug planting, but I have to wonder why she would get someone else to plant the phone when she was in the cab previously and could have done it herself. Kung Food fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jun 8, 2021 |
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The tapir yakuza boss can't be that bad of a dude with a voice like that.
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Paracelsus posted:The tapir yakuza boss can't be that bad of a dude with a voice like that.
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Paracelsus posted:The tapir yakuza boss can't be that bad of a dude with a voice like that. I dunno, he was a pretty evil otter. Who was also a metaphor, and sang a song to let us know that he knew that! 
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https://twitter.com/mugicaan1/status/1402558315616366599?s=19 ODDCAR...
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I now have diabeetus.
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I can't believe Dobu made animated presentation of his criminal loving conspiracy.
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https://twitter.com/mugicaan1/status/1402918615402180611?s=20
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Well that episode had answers and more questions. The replacement idol had the obvious motive for the murder, but Yamamoto showing up at the office just in time to find the body was the most suspicious thing ever. I have no idea why he'd kill her though
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Yamamoto seems like the prime suspect now, but there is definitely something fishy going on with new Yuki seeing as she is connected to the 2nd shooter/bug placer. Another big reveal that the friend of the boss/father of missing high school girl is in fact Donraku. Could he, or someone connected to him be the 2nd shooter and the person who gave the cellphone to new Yuki to plant in the cab? Maybe a grieving parent doing their own investigation.
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I think I speak for us all when I say "Holy poo poo." And I'm 90% certain that there's a link between the death of Odokawa's parents and Yuki's murder.
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Is everything wrapping up next week or do we have one more episode after that?
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Well this got dark. ...Darker.
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Yeah, next week seems like the big heist and it's going to get messed up by Big Damon and the psycho guy.
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Kung Food posted:Yamamoto seems like the prime suspect now, but there is definitely something fishy going on with new Yuki seeing as she is connected to the 2nd shooter/bug placer. Another big reveal that the friend of the boss/father of missing high school girl is in fact Donraku. Could he, or someone connected to him be the 2nd shooter and the person who gave the cellphone to new Yuki to plant in the cab? Maybe a grieving parent doing their own investigation. The new Yuki, Wadagaki, definitely seems like the most likely suspect. It seems more likely now that instead of Tanaka manipulating her into planting the phone, that she promised to do it for him to try to get Tanaka to eliminate the witness Odokawa. Yamamoto tried to kill Odokawa out of desperation, but she seems to be a lot more methodical about it which fits a lot more with Yuki's murder. Really need to go back and watch the scenes with her.
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Kung Food posted:Yamamoto seems like the prime suspect now, but there is definitely something fishy going on with new Yuki seeing as she is connected to the 2nd shooter/bug placer. Another big reveal that the friend of the boss/father of missing high school girl is in fact Donraku. Could he, or someone connected to him be the 2nd shooter and the person who gave the cellphone to new Yuki to plant in the cab? Maybe a grieving parent doing their own investigation. Have we met Donraku yet? I only remember his name from being on the flowchart in the OP.
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Talorat posted:Have we met Donraku yet? I only remember his name from being on the flowchart in the OP. Isn't he also the guy on the eraser?
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Talorat posted:Have we met Donraku yet? I only remember his name from being on the flowchart in the OP. He's popped up here and there, the bar mama kangaroo told a story about him. Most interestingly he was in a television panel about the missing girl in the first episode, along with the koala that was in Mystery Kiss' press conference in this episode. Teriyaki Koinku posted:Isn't he also the guy on the eraser? Also, yes.
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Talorat posted:Have we met Donraku yet? I only remember his name from being on the flowchart in the OP. He's been a very indirect presence so far. What I remember is:
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JackGeneric posted:He's been a very indirect presence so far. What I remember is: Tapir Mob Boss had Dobu look for the missing girl on behalf of Don-chan. It's the conversation Kakihana thought he was a part of in episode 3, I think it was? Looking at the timeline I think it's pretty conclusive about the murderer's identity. October 4th is both the night Yuki was killed and the night Odokawa drove Wadagaki, who was misidentified by everyone else as Yuki in the convenience video, to the Mystery Kiss office, LostRook fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jun 15, 2021 |
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Talorat posted:Have we met Donraku yet? I only remember his name from being on the flowchart in the OP. Not in person. He is mentioned in the first episode in passing in terms of having put out some kind of Sutra chant for relaxation, and he was a model for the eraser that Tanaka tried to buy from, someone. Someone pointed out that the missing high school girl could have been his daughter because the tapir mafioso referred to her father as "Don-chan" and someone made the call that considering how interconnected everything in the show is he was probably Donraku. As for who killed Yuki, it remains possible that Yamamoto was on the scene so quickly because it was an attempted frame job on Rui, though who set it up remains unclear. I'm actually not totally sure how plausible Yamamoto is as a suspect, the dude seemed pretty dead set on trying to protect Mystery Kiss, the point of apparently being willing to take the fall for them and go to jail. On the other hand, by the time Odokawa tried to recruit him the body of real Yuki had been dredged out the water so he had to know the group's time was nearly up. On the other other hand, could he have really timed it so perfectly that he had an excuse to sit out operation OddTaxi? But back on the first hand he really did seem primarily concerned with protecting the idol group and directing attention away from them. But he'd probably still do that if he was the guilty party. And if it wasn't him then who? New Yuki as possible, but so is Ichimura. The reveal in the episode was that Rui apparently intended to kill Yuki when she found her dead, and this is a show that is very much about obsession, ambition, and desire in their most destructive and deluded forms. Who knows what's really going on under any of these characters before they tell us or show us. Hell, maybe Yuki was killed because of who her father was and who his friends are and doodles is correct and it does have something to do with Odokawa's family. As for Daimon the younger, what's the over/under on him being dead? The fact he is apparently incommunicado entirely is worrying for a dude as naïve as him. You know, they still haven't explained how Shirakawa ended up with his eraser in the first place, unless ditch actually is Dobu like someone suggested.
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Some predictions for the last two episodes (spoilering just in case): The heist goes wrong due to Big Daimon and Tanaka. Tanaka shoots Odokawa in the head but survives. In the last episode, they do surgery to remove the bullet. When Odokawa wakes up from surgery, he can see everyone as normal people again and they retroactively explain how Odokawa came to see everyone as animals due to the effect of drowning and asphyxiation on his brain as a child with his parents' double suicide attempt. E: ^^^I kept thinking Don-chan was referring to someone high up in Yakuza chain of command, like a Mafia Don, not as a diminutive for Donraku. Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Jun 15, 2021 |
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LostRook posted:Tapir Mob Boss had Dobu look for the missing girl on behalf of Don-chan. It's the conversation Kakihana thought he was a part of in episode 3, I think it was? And speaking of the conversation between Dobu and boss, the boss said that Yuki had given Big Diamon a secondhand message. What was the message and who relayed it??
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Honestly until Yano said She was bludgeoned and strangled, I just assumed she had possibly died from over work. It was mentioned that not only was Yuki going to practices and stuff, she was also still going to school, and was still doing track. A part of me still kind of thinks that is actually what happened to her and Yano was just over complicating it, although that might be a little anti climatic.
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Has anyone else been paying attention to the audio dramas? There's a lot to digest after the last one.
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Maera Sior posted:Has anyone else been paying attention to the audio dramas? There's a lot to digest after the last one. I didn't even know about this. I did a little googling but didn't have any luck finding a tl outside of somebody's draft in a comment on the first one on yt. Is there an english transcription or does one need to know Japanese to get these?
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copy posted:I didn't even know about this. I did a little googling but didn't have any luck finding a tl outside of somebody's draft in a comment on the first one on yt. Is there an english transcription or does one need to know Japanese to get these? I look at the English translations on https://oddtaxi.fandom.com/wiki/Odd_Taxi_(audio_drama) while listening on YT.
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