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Here's an Australian politician who went on TV to claim that the vaccines have killed over 200 people in this country (there's actually only been two vaccine deaths due to blood clots) because she misinterpreted a report about the number of people who subsequently died after being vaccinated. The very very patient interviewer tries valiantly to explain to her that different words have different meanings but she simply won't back down. https://twitter.com/ABCmediawatch/status/1406943305888198662
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Jun 23, 2021 12:00
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Death By The Blues posted:I mean there will be some discontent. Delta is arriving faster then people anticipated and it has a DLC now. On top of general economic woes and trade supply worries/disruptions. We've changed completely normalized the level of sickness and death that any variant currently on the market will cause.
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Jun 23, 2021 12:01
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Here's an Australian politician who went on TV to claim that the vaccines have killed over 200 people in this country (there's actually only been two vaccine deaths due to blood clots) because she misinterpreted a report about the number of people who subsequently died after being vaccinated. The very very patient interviewer tries valiantly to explain to her that different words have different meanings but she simply won't back down. aaaaaaaaaaa wtf is Pauline Hanson still doing around, I thought she lost her seat?!?!
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Jun 23, 2021 12:07
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crepeface posted:aaaaaaaaaaa wtf is Pauline Hanson still doing around, I thought she lost her seat?!?! What is dead can never die.
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Jun 23, 2021 12:08
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Blitter posted:The cleavage site is not a loving smoking gun, and Baltimore is a politically compromised old hack and his assertions widely disputed and is not well supported by credible science or scientists. Delta-Wye has been a lab leak truther since at least last winter.
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Jun 23, 2021 12:09
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Did someone say "cleavage?" 
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Jun 23, 2021 12:15
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More than 1/500 people from her state are dead from COVID. https://twitter.com/DMRegister/status/1407658443272556550?s=19
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Jun 23, 2021 12:19
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Atrocious Joe posted:read down the thread and this is being used as more evidence of the insidious Chinese covering something up Uhhh. Have you seen their covid case graphs? Lol
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Jun 23, 2021 12:31
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Imgur is being weird right now otherwise I'd just post the graphic but all the relevant info is in the url. https://nypost.com/2021/06/22/make-it-kinky-at-summer-sex-parties-nyc-health-dept/
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Jun 23, 2021 12:38
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https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1407527836605456388 https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1407445619325628419 https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1407445622580342784 https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1407445628049756164 https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1407445630612480001
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Jun 23, 2021 12:42
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also i went in for a novavax followup bc of my cold symptoms, even though i had tested negative twice. the PI — who also ran a J&J trial — thanked me for coming in, and i joked "well, i'll show either the vaccines work and this is just a cold, or i've got super spooky variant that evades both vaccines and normal testing!" she laughed ruefully, and then said "yeah i think you have a cold, but based on what i'm seeing, i'm guessing we will have variants that will escape the vaccines by september, and people will get what they think is a cold and it will turn out to be covid. can't know that, just what i'm suspecting." happy open biden everyone!!
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Jun 23, 2021 12:45
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Pingui posted:A couple of interesting points here: I don't know why this makes me think of it, but has anybody else noticed that there's a little bit of an internet fitness culture tinge to some of the antivax stuff? I have to have seen a hundred posts about "I work out and eat right and I'm young, so I don't need to get a shot," I think Joe Rogan said as much to his fans. That's probably pretty bad.
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Jun 23, 2021 12:49
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Real Mean Queen posted:I don't know why this makes me think of it, but has anybody else noticed that there's a little bit of an internet fitness culture tinge to some of the antivax stuff? I have to have seen a hundred posts about "I work out and eat right and I'm young, so I don't need to get a shot," I think Joe Rogan said as much to his fans. That's probably pretty bad. Anti vax poo poo has always been one of the most shared among all ideological tenancies things in the US, but in this case people saying that are just saying whatever they feel they need to say to get the outcome they prefer
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Jun 23, 2021 13:00
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It is fuckin wild how the news is now saying covid is not over after doing a million victory laps and now it's time to figure out how to vaccinate kids
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Jun 23, 2021 13:04
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Real Mean Queen posted:I don't know why this makes me think of it, but has anybody else noticed that there's a little bit of an internet fitness culture tinge to some of the antivax stuff? I have to have seen a hundred posts about "I work out and eat right and I'm young, so I don't need to get a shot," I think Joe Rogan said as much to his fans. That's probably pretty bad. The heavy focus on old people with comorbidities as the only people suffering from the only potential negative consequence of COVID - namely death - resulted in that. I am hearing the same thing (in Denmark), usually combined with the vaccines being new and untested and "I probably already had it and it was nothing". As a particular caveat the clotting issues have also come up, as it skewered the risk perception - e.g. COVID won't affect me, but the vaccine can give me blood clots. This has very little to do with your point, but it might be helpful to others trying to convince others to take the vaccine, so bear with me: Last time I encountered it my take was to acknowledge the issues with the rapid rollout and the clotting issues, but then contextualizing them properly. E.g. there may be issues with the vaccine, but we haven't seen much with the mRNAs besides some myocarditis and pericarditis in young men (as I was talking to young women) which are entirely fixable. Meanwhile the clotting issues in women can be entirely avoidable by getting one of the mRNAs. Both myocarditis and blood clots are much more common among people getting COVID, so if that is the fear don't bet on COVID. Even (immortal) young women don't like hearing the memory loss issues associated with COVID, which got a sheet white response when I mentioned it bares some semblance to dementia. Perhaps more directly to the point - as a filthy Euro - there are some practicalities surrounding the vaccine when you travel. Which may have been the most convincing argument, as the notion that you can always change your mind if needed, doesn't mesh well with the latency from getting a vaccine to being certified vaccinated. An appeal to freedom 
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Jun 23, 2021 13:18
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Petey posted:also i went in for a novavax followup bc of my cold symptoms, even though i had tested negative twice. the PI — who also ran a J&J trial — thanked me for coming in, and i joked "well, i'll show either the vaccines work and this is just a cold, or i've got super spooky variant that evades both vaccines and normal testing!" she laughed ruefully, and then said "yeah i think you have a cold, but based on what i'm seeing, i'm guessing we will have variants that will escape the vaccines by september, and people will get what they think is a cold and it will turn out to be covid. can't know that, just what i'm suspecting." So, here's the question then: if covid does the thing a lot of viruses and evolves to where it just makes itself a little bitch of a virus instead of being a hellbeast, does that make covid the actual next flu, eventually, where hospitalizations are basically not happening and covid is actually a joke for most? Or does it just kill the poo poo out of people constantly and end up with a billion long covid sufferers?
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Jun 23, 2021 13:19
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moist turtleneck posted:It is fuckin wild how the news is now saying covid is not over after doing a million victory laps and now it's time to figure out how to vaccinate kids stop being such a doomer!!!!!!!!!
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Jun 23, 2021 13:22
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moist turtleneck posted:covid is not over 
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Jun 23, 2021 13:23
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moist turtleneck posted:covid is not over hosed if true 
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Jun 23, 2021 13:31
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:So, here's the question then: A paper was published last summer, describing how SARS-Cov2 will inevitably become just another flu, and it was quoted in part widely because it's just a flu!! If you read the study, it makes it clear that the timeline for this is .. uncomfortably long, because it requires widespread pre-pubescent exposure for the majority of the population..
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Jun 23, 2021 13:32
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Real Mean Queen posted:I don't know why this makes me think of it, but has anybody else noticed that there's a little bit of an internet fitness culture tinge to some of the antivax stuff? I have to have seen a hundred posts about "I work out and eat right and I'm young, so I don't need to get a shot," I think Joe Rogan said as much to his fans. That's probably pretty bad. Also the corollary to "I work out and eat right therefore I have a strong immune system therefore I don't need to take the vaccine" is "The people who caught covid obviously didn't have a strong enough immune system so they probably they didn't take care of themselves, so it's their fault they got sick" Once you're at that point and you've pushed responsibility solely onto individuals it makes it a LOT easier to rationalise not wearing masks or practicing social isolation or closing down schools etc etc
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Jun 23, 2021 13:35
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that full bloom paper is, uh, something: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.18.449051v1.full.pdf+html
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Jun 23, 2021 13:35
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I've had randos in the wild start questioning me. The other day some white trash rear end in a top hat state "what's wrong with you." As he walked by. Yesterday someone asked me if I didn't believe in the vaccine. I told him I was vaxxed, and he shouted "hell yeah!" Made me glad I wear the full face respirator, since no one keeps distance.
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Jun 23, 2021 13:37
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Blitter posted:A paper was published last summer, describing how SARS-Cov2 will inevitably become just another flu, and it was quoted in part widely because it's just a flu!! Thanks my dude, I thought I'd read something like that but it's been a bit. Iron Crowned posted:I've had randos in the wild start questioning me. Parents are sneering and telling their kids, who want to wear masks, that they don't need them. When they see me, they point at me and say "but that lady's wearing them" and the parents seethe. I might wear them long after necessary just to reinforce that face masks should be normal here in the US if you're sick.
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Jun 23, 2021 13:39
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I self identify as sick.
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Jun 23, 2021 13:42
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lots of vaccinated people getting covid. I did not see that coming.
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Jun 23, 2021 14:17
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euphronius posted:lots of vaccinated people getting covid. I did not see that coming. Yeah and it is tracked pretty poorly. This dropped like a week ago and Massachusetts is one of the only places where it gets tracked in public: https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/nearly-4000-breakthrough-covid-infections-have-now-been-reported-in-mass/2408052/ posted:Nearly 4,000 Breakthrough COVID Infections Have Now Been Reported in Mass.
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Jun 23, 2021 14:29
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Pingui posted:Yeah and it is tracked pretty poorly. This dropped like a week ago and Massachusetts is one of the only places where it gets tracked in public: lmao at the scare quotes around "wild type"
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Jun 23, 2021 14:31
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So again in the USA no one has any idea how the viruses are spreading.
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Jun 23, 2021 14:32
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euphronius posted:lots of vaccinated people getting covid. I did not see that coming. Good thing the CDC is keeping track of breakthrough cases. Wait, poo poo.
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Jun 23, 2021 14:32
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Pingui posted:https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/oxford-university-explores-anti-parasitic-drug-ivermectin-covid-19-treatment-2021-06-22/ i cant believe these chuds are doing this Also RE: breakthroughs in massachusetts, those numbers indicate that breakthroughs are slowing down. Probably just due to way fewer cases in general with school out and nice weather, but really reinforces summer covid should be fine as long as you aren't living in a place where the whole population hangs out inside with the a/c on
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Jun 23, 2021 14:32
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Pingui posted:The heavy focus on old people with comorbidities as the only people suffering from the only potential negative consequence of COVID - namely death - resulted in that. It's still going strong. Reading DR's expert Q&A about the Delta variant was a real crack-ping. Basically they were all like, "We have vaccinated all the vulnerable and olds, but we'll probably have continuous outbreaks among children when they go back to school and Delta dominates, but that'll just strengthen people's immunity alongside the boosters, since kids don't get sick from it."
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Jun 23, 2021 14:35
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No one is getting tested. Its public health catastrophe lmao. Hahaha.
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Jun 23, 2021 14:35
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euphronius posted:So again in the USA no one has any idea how the viruses are spreading. Have you considered not worrying about the spread and enjoying unlimited soup and bread sticks at your local Olive Garden? Restaurants are back, baby!
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Jun 23, 2021 14:36
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euphronius posted:No one is getting tested. It's cool, there's no way this could go poorly given a virus that has exponential growth on cases that simmers for a few months before taking off.
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Jun 23, 2021 14:36
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The important thing is, no matter how bad things get restrictions will never be put back in place lol
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Jun 23, 2021 14:41
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pursuant to the bloom paper, submitted a FOIA request for all SRA deletion requests
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Jun 23, 2021 14:43
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euphronius posted:No one is getting tested.  looks like IL was testing pretty well until this week. 40k cases average last week was higher than all last summer. wondering if part of the big drop is one of the big surveillance testers like UIUC switching off or something we probably are undertesting, as our CFR is just as high as it was this early spring after cases fell hard and deaths hadn't, but this time there isnt a huge dropoff in cases to explain it
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Jun 23, 2021 14:45
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We've finally taken the step down the path that ends at "it was lab leak......from Fort Detrick"
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I wish they weren't calling it "Delta" because the word Delta triggers my roommate into ranting about Delta Airlines.
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