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DorianGravy posted:[Terminator 2] must have been a trip for first-time viewers! Glottis posted:Yes and no. It was certainly novel, but this was also the age of trailers spoiling basically the whole movie. https://youtu.be/CRRlbK5w8AE Lame. Maybe… maybe there were a few people lucky enough to have only seen the absolutely amazing teaser and not the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ThFNL_2tI david_a fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jul 11, 2021 |
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Enos Cabell posted:I haven't seen it, but is the camera really all male gazey? It was written and directed by women, not saying they can't/won't shoot that way but still surprising. It's not all, but it's definitely there.
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Jul 11, 2021 16:10
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MajorBonnet posted:It's not all, but it's definitely there. Wasn't that kind of the point though? It's been years since I've watched it but I recall her talking about it in interviews and stuff when it came out.
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Jul 11, 2021 16:18
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Chaotic Flame posted:Wasn't that kind of the point though? It's been years since I've watched it but I recall her talking about it in interviews and stuff when it came out. Yeah it's absolutely the point, not having anything like that would be weird lol
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Jul 11, 2021 16:19
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I spent a long time deriding Jennifer's Body relative to Ginger Snaps (which I felt handled the metaphor better). Maybe I should revisit it.
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Jul 11, 2021 18:56
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They're both good
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Jul 11, 2021 18:58
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There are very annoying people on the internet who will go on at length about how Arnold being the good guy in T2 was supposed to be a surprise twist. They're wrong. Very, very, very wrong.
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Jul 11, 2021 20:16
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I mean, it was a twist, but there's no way they assumed it'd be a surprise with all the promo material and word of mouth. Who knows, maybe they thought people would know he eventually became good but weren't sure if started bad in the movie... except the longer trailer spells it out fully.
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Jul 11, 2021 20:55
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I don't think it materially changes the film in any significant capacity whether the audience knows that the T-800 is the good guy or not. It's clear that Sarah thinks he's the bad guy and the effectiveness of the narrative rests on that, not on the audience's knowledge or lack thereof.
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The Modern Leper posted:I spent a long time deriding Jennifer's Body relative to Ginger Snaps (which I felt handled the metaphor better). Maybe I should revisit it. Ginger Snaps owns and I feel like not enough people saw Little Witches with Clea DuVall
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Jul 11, 2021 21:13
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The surprise twist of T2 is basically that Sarah Conner becomes a terminator, and that's not really spoiled in any of the trailers.
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Jul 11, 2021 23:01
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Glottis posted:I think it holds up 100%. I'm continually amazed at how tight the script is even for minor poo poo. I remember on the commentary for T2 they talk about how very very early on they were considering having John wielding guns himself but that was never going to fly in several countries at the time along with some grey area stuff like lockpicking (which was cut in the initial UK home releases when Sarah picks locks during her escape). So to give him something to do they built all the action stuff he does around the computer hacking and handling/commenting on all of the vehicles they use throughout the movie and managing the ammunition which is why I think that was so consistent.
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Jul 12, 2021 04:11
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Black Widow is exactly what I wanted after cosmic war movies
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Junkie Disease posted:Black Widow is exactly what I wanted after cosmic war movies Yeah, it was fun. Solidly middle tier Marvel movie, which isn't a bad thing at all.
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Jul 12, 2021 05:05
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veni veni veni posted:Haha yes. That was the perfect cherry on top Sword of Trust was great. I didn't know anything about it, and only glanced at the description, so the entire time I thought I was watching the pilot of a TV show. If you want a movie where nothing happens but it's just Marc Maron being a wise-rear end to racists, you'll get it.
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Seconding that T2 holds up incredibly well. Arguably the best action movie of all-time, but at least from that decade. Some dude on reddit recently posted where his girlfriend was completely unfamiliar with the Terminator movies and he successfully had her experience T1 & T2 back-to-back with no foreknowledge of the Arnold "huge twist that was revealed to everyone in the trailers" change-up. david_a posted:The freezing is implied to have damaged the T-1000 as well. I think the only thing left in the theatrical cut is that he has a “ripple” when he pauses to look around (which can also come off as annoyance). His hand also gets momentarily fused to a railing without his intent, and I think the foot thing was how John figures out which Sarah is the real one. Granted it's not the nitpick thread but is there any justifiable explanation for why the T-1000 let Sarah live after he stabs her and then mimics her? Some of his behavior in the factory scene can be attributed to the glitches that have been discussed but that kind of mistake doesn't hold up that well under scrutiny.
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Sand Monster posted:Granted it's not the nitpick thread but is there any justifiable explanation for why the T-1000 let Sarah live after he stabs her and then mimics her? Some of his behavior in the factory scene can be attributed to the glitches that have been discussed but that kind of mistake doesn't hold up that well under scrutiny. If I remember correctly, his conversation with Sarah is rudely interrupted by the T-800 and a metal pole. Sarah presumably slinks off while he’s busy. As for why he doesn’t just immediately kill Sarah and start mimicking her - maybe he knows that a voice mimic is like 99% and not 100% accurate (also much less likely to say something telling if the real Sarah calls for John), maybe mimicking takes a lot of energy and he’s running low, or maybe he’s just malicious and enjoys torturing her. There’s other small things that imply that the T-1000 may have some rudimentary emotions.
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It’s funny that Disney+ tells you exactly how long you have to wait to see Black Widow if you don’t pay the $30. (October 26)
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Jul 12, 2021 15:02
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David harbor has never been this good
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Black Widow was pretty great, despite yet another floating god damned fortress. At least no sky beams this time around. Casting continues to be Marvels best asset, Florence Pugh, David Harbour and Rachel Weisz were all fantastic.
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david_a posted:As for why he doesn’t just immediately kill Sarah and start mimicking her - maybe he knows that a voice mimic is like 99% and not 100% accurate (also much less likely to say something telling if the real Sarah calls for John), maybe mimicking takes a lot of energy and he’s running low, or maybe he’s just malicious and enjoys torturing her. There’s other small things that imply that the T-1000 may have some rudimentary emotions. Well the T-1000 did have an issue with mimicking earlier in the movie when it got tricked into revealing itself by the whole Wolfy thing. So it may have learned from that and decided that killing Sarah at that point would make it more difficult to lure John in, just like what happened with the foster parents.
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Sand Monster posted:
I got to do this with Back to the Future, watching her eyes get wide when she realized they do know exactly when and where a bolt of lightning is going to strike is one of my favorite movie experiences ever. I wonder if she's seen Terminator...
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I got to have a grown adult turn to me and, shocked, say "He's lying, right??" at the end of Empire Strikes Back.
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Sand Monster posted:
I did this with my gf as well, last year. I think I posted about it somewhere here, but she called it beforehand. The way the characters are shot makes it pretty obvious. In fact, I think the "Bad to the Bone" bit gives away the game and is probably the movie's biggest misstep (along with Arnold's smirk when he picks up the minigun). It's cute, it's funny, but maybe a bit too cutesy. Tension is sacrificed and the storytelling undercut just to make a joke. It's pandering and Cameron should respect the audience more. regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jul 12, 2021 |
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And Black Widow was fine. I feel like there was a disconnect between the script and either the acting or directing. There were lots of lines that were clearly intended to be jokes and the overall feel a better mix of action and comedy and that was largely lost in filming. The younger sister in particular was clearly written to be jokier than the performance given.
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I really enjoyed The Hunt
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The first episode of The White Lotus, Mike White’s new HBO show about rich people at a Hawaiian resort, was pretty good. Great cast and the score’s killer. I’m interested in seeing where it goes, it looks like it gets a little crazy later on. Plus, I’ve been promised that it has a legendary Jennifer Coolidge performance, so I’ll stick around just for that.
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wizardofloneliness posted:The first episode of The White Lotus, Mike White’s new HBO show about rich people at a Hawaiian resort, was pretty good. Great cast and the score’s killer. I’m interested in seeing where it goes, it looks like it gets a little crazy later on. Plus, I’ve been promised that it has a legendary Jennifer Coolidge performance, so I’ll stick around just for that. Yeah, I just rewatched it during my lunch break after watching it last night. I can't wait for Molly Shannon to show up. There were a few lines in this episode that made me think, "Mike White definitely watches Vanderpump Rules, and is obviously quoting it." But given that he also competed on The Amazing Race and Survivor, we do know that he's a fan of reality tv in general.
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Mike White has had a pretty interesting career. Even ignoring everything else his journey with mental health and meditation has clearly positively influenced his work. Which started out as pretty good.
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today is the 30th anniversary of Point Break and it's on hbo max so you should definitely watch it today in celebration if you're not a dumbass with bad movie taste https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuVDrpl1tIY
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Jul 12, 2021 20:22
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I liked Chris Pratt as a chubby funny guy. I do not like action hero Chris Pratt.
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I never liked any of the cutesy white people Office-derivative comedy he was in so i just had to maintain my distaste for chris pratt. Very easy Ditto jim from the office
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promising carl posted:I really enjoyed The Hunt The Hunt rules.
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veni veni veni posted:I liked Chris Pratt as a chubby funny guy. I do not like action hero Chris Pratt. Same. He could've been a delightful character actor for years. Sadly Hollywood took the wrong message from his intentional "miscast" in Guardians of the Galaxy for a sort of schulby, incompetent hero with a heart of gold.
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wizardofloneliness posted:The first episode of The White Lotus, Mike White’s new HBO show about rich people at a Hawaiian resort, was pretty good. Great cast and the score’s killer. I’m interested in seeing where it goes, it looks like it gets a little crazy later on. Plus, I’ve been promised that it has a legendary Jennifer Coolidge performance, so I’ll stick around just for that. Enlightened was fantastic, grownup TV and at times one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever watched. Real interested in The White Lotus.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Same. He could've been a delightful character actor for years. Sadly Hollywood took the wrong message from his intentional "miscast" in Guardians of the Galaxy for a sort of schulby, incompetent hero with a heart of gold. He was one of the Seal Team guys in Zero Dark Thirty two years before Guardians, he was definitely trying to push his career that way.
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Not that I would have expected otherwise but willys wonderland is garbage.
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veni veni veni posted:Not that I would have expected otherwise but willys wonderland is garbage. completely incorrect
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veni veni veni posted:Not that I would have expected otherwise but willys wonderland is garbage. Correct. It is the proper kind of garbage.
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