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Two fallen comrades, Tycoon's royals just can't catch a break. DalaranJ posted:Last year, I asked you to commit The Perfect Crime. This year, I need you to Attack and Dethrone God(s).  nrook posted:
       tbh I probably could have gotten away with selling everything except Masamune. Koobes posted:
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ultrafilter posted:It's  Quad samurai wasn't too bad; most bosses went down to a barrage of loose change, including NED. If you're a crazy person like me, you can grind out !Iainuki on World 1 without gaining XP. The northwest ocean has 2x Corbett as a rare encounter, which gives 3 ABP, 0 XP, and 2000 gil. At level 9, you do 2850 damage with !Zenigane, just enough to one-shot them, and it costs you 900 gil to do so, so it ends up being cash positive. Just be sure you want to get 600+ ABP 3 points at a time before you do so. Hardest boss was probably W2 Exdeath, you don't really have any tricks to deal with his offense, and you're relying on katana crits/dancing dagger sword dances to do good damage, so it can be a slog if you get unlucky like I did and get a combined 3 sword dances/crits during the entire battle. Doing it at level 18 probably didn't help, either.
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Update on my Berserker Berserker Ninja Black Mage run:Galick posted:You could be done in 2-4 hours or it could be up to 8-10 more. Depends on your optionals! Definitely closer to 10 for me probably. I decided to just go to the final boss and 'see if I could do it' and lol no. Mega64 posted:Once you get access to the legendary weapons Rune Axe is a must, after that is any two of the Magus Rod/Sasuke Katan/Assassin Dagger. Magus Rods combines all the rod boosts in one weapon and is thus nice convenience, Sasuke is a Ninja weapon with weapon block like the Main Gauche, and rear end Dagger can inflict instant death. Depends on whether you’re using the Twin Lance/Chicken Knife exploit, care about the rear end Dagger when you have Death Sickles, or don’t mind switching weapons on your Black Mage to boost different -aga spells (which shouldn’t matter anyway, I think the only Void boss with a weakness is Omega, and you’re better off skipping that fight anyway without insanely high levels). Thanks SO much for the detailed write up. The hermes sandals have helped a ton. I'm realising there are times when I could swap out the sandals for other things: Maybe 4 fire rings for using black mage to heal? Reflect rings? IDK. Mega64 posted:You could pretty much skip the optional content of W3 with that team. You’d miss out on Flare, but you’ll deal more damage with rod-boosted -aga spells anyway. Only reason to do Fork Tower is for the Wonder Rod to Zerk Shinryu, and with two Zerkers playing the rezz game is a bit dicey, though doable. Re-reading that after beating fork tower: I didn't know my black mage could equip the wonder rod. Useful! And yeah I decided to grind a bit by doing all of the optional content after getting my poo poo kicked in so I'll see what those axes are, soon enough. I got to the final area after killing twintania, inside the rift. I only had one death axe and at this point both berserkers have dual wield. I was just getting my poo poo kicked in by King Behemoths, then I realised I didn't have the Magic Lamp either (not sure what I'd need it for but I assume 'certain spells in the last battle', so I decided to just go and do the optional content and also get 3 more death axes (death sickles in my snes version) to help with the king behemoths. it only took about 20 minutes to get back, then I realised after a while that the enemies around crescent with the sickle were gone and only exist in world 1, but Fork Tower has enemy berserkers that can drop it. I had a hell of a time grinding at fork tower. It was easy but the drop rate of 6.25 seems like it's per fight rather than per enemy berserker in the fight. I finally got 3 more death sickles/axes and then decided to 'just kill the bosses'. Holy poo poo omniscient tore me a new one again and again but I finally got him. I had done my research and saw that the only weapons in the game (I think) that don't do 'physical' damage are the Thor Hammer (lightning) and the Rune Axe (black) so I could use a berserker on that side dual-wielding those weapons. It worked fine in the tower but made him reset the fights, so I was wrong. Then I tried the single mage masher which I never got to work either. Eventually I used the ninja (for items, since throw is also an attack) and black mage (for damage) against him. I think I'm about level 39 for non berserker death-axe grinders and level 42 for the two who were grinding death axes, at this point. I've probably played about 5 or 6 hours since moore forest, too. I didn't read any kind of 'berseker guide' but I'm realising that maybe I should have. Having more than one death sickle at some point would have been great, but I assumed I could 'get more any time' which was wrong. At least I have 4 now in case it's needed, and I think it is in the last area with king behemoths. Alternatively I suppose I could play that area with my berserkers dead but that also seems to be a way to just have a shorter and more fatal battle with them. I didn't try it but I will if I have to. I did find out about the Gaia Hammer underflow bug so my 'physical' berserker was using that and the death axe. With the bug she hits all enemies for 2500 damage or so. Tell me if that sounds right. (I am on snes) Next is the sea trench or lstory falls, IDK if I can or should just do the falls first. I might as well grind by doing the optional content, since most of the mob battles are pretty easy for me, but the final area of the last dungeon is tough as all hell. I don't even remember how hard the final boss is and haven't looked him up or anything, I'm sort of playing without a grand strategy but looking at walkthroughs of the area I'm currently in, and save scumming etc. I think I got every single thing from the sealed castle that I can possibly use so no need to ever go back there. This is a tough experience! I only ever played this game once (normally, got to pirate's graveyard then stopped playing), then once for a fiesta (ninja, dancer, black mage, mystic knight) which I finished and another time for a fiesta that I didn't. If I ever play this again, and I'm having a tough time so maybe not, I will pick my entire roster and just donate to gilgabot. I sort of feel like doing that now but I've come so far. I feel like I can totally do it, but maybe for a berserker run I am missing <thing I should have ground for in a previous world/area> in a few locations and have given myself a harder time than I should have had, as a result. redreader fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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quick answers to some of your questions: -Lamp is for oneshotting part of NED with Odin, because for some strange reason, part of NED is vulnerable to it. Lamp is also for one-shotting the bosses of the Deep Sea Trench (same). You get it by riding your chocobo to the TOP of Istory Falls. - Generally speaking, you want the sandals on unless you're specifically countering something else (e.g. coral rings for Leviathan or Twintania). - You don't actually have to fight the big boss of Istory Falls, if that matters to you (and there's not much point in doing it unless you've got summoner/want the bragging rights). That being said, there's not much there that you'll find particularly valuable.
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Leraika posted:quick answers to some of your questions: Thanks! That's what I wanted to know. I think reflect ring would possibly be good though. And any advice on the Behemoth Kings, apart from 'assassin knife on the ninja and 2x death axe on the berserkers'? They're the entire reason I turned back and decided to do more grinding.
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You can just... run away.  They're slow as gently caress and only really do things as a reaction to you hitting them."you can just run away" is a solution to most annoying randoms, tbh (unless you're doing a dumb toxx, I suppose, but I also imagine most people who opt into that already know what they're doing)
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If you have trouble running quicksaving to reset the step count is an option. However its a much deeper slog than walz basement and its 2 or 3 quicksaves.
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redreader posted:Thanks! That's what I wanted to know. I think reflect ring would possibly be good though. And any advice on the Behemoth Kings, apart from 'assassin knife on the ninja and 2x death axe on the berserkers'? They're the entire reason I turned back and decided to do more grinding. you have a ninja, just run away using !Smoke
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Friendly reminder that the "drawback" of chicken knife's !flee proc is cool and good, actually.Red Metal posted:you have a ninja, just run away using !Smoke Or just do that
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Thanks! I completely forgot about that command and I've never set it before.
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 My first ever FF5 run and Fiesta run, triple crown baby!  Started another run, Random instead of Normal, and rolled Thiefzerker again 
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First Fiesta run. Thief/Mystic Knight/Hunter so far. I had damage trouble on Sol Cannon, my damage dealers kept getting Olded before I took out the missile launchers, so I taught everyone Animals (secretly incredibly good when you're in the level range where Nightingale is a 50% chance, you just full heal the party whenever you roll it) and had Lenna Aim with a Thunder Bow while everyone else rolled the bird dice every turn. The big laser fired six times, but it simply had no way to push through the impenetrable barrier of birds. What a great game.
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Kyrosiris posted:"you can just run away" is a solution to most annoying randoms, tbh (unless you're doing a dumb toxx, I suppose, but I also imagine most people who opt into that already know what they're doing)  If I had more energy I would edit this for fiesta purposes.  Anyway, this is the reason a lot of us avoid Phoenix Tower despite the juicy, juicy 500+ free AP and knifable dancer gear there: you can't run from any of the encounters there and they all barf status effects all over you. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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Anyone got any idea why my berserker will sometimes miss with one of the two weapons and then not attack at all with the second one (using 'dblwield' on snes, the dual wield ninja ability)? It's happening with, I think the Gaia hammer attacking first. Would it help to put that weapon in a different slot? I'll try the other hand.
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I feel the "too fancy weed store" one. One time I went into a weed store while real baked and heard someone I knew from high school and hadn't seen in a few years behind me but they didn't recognize me, and I was SO stoned that I was like "oh god if she notices me I'm way too high to hold a conversation but I'm already at the counter I can't just leave gently caress what do I do" and just quickly bought half an ounce of some really expensive weed that was upsold to me and speed-shuffled out awkwardly while staring at my shoes Anyways that's storytime with Kazinsal, I still haven't started my fuckin run for the summer goddammit
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I tend to fight encounters when they're not -too- bad, because if nothing else it saves a bit of grinding in galuf's basement/the void later. It's honestly how these older JRPGs are designed anyways, you're supposed to use the encounters around you to gauge how strong you are.
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Yeah I generally just fight most random encounters, and I don't need to do any grinding. Most characters end up with like, 2-3 classes maxed out naturally. It's nice! Usually if I notice I start running away too much, I just quit for the day. Or I'm in somewhere obnoxious, like the Moore Forest.
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redreader posted:Anyone got any idea why my berserker will sometimes miss with one of the two weapons and then not attack at all with the second one (using 'dblwield' on snes, the dual wield ninja ability)? It's happening with, I think the Gaia hammer attacking first. Would it help to put that weapon in a different slot? I'll try the other hand. Iirc weapon procs that replace your attack entirely disable any other weapon you have equipped when they get rolled, and Gaia hammer's quake proc is one such beast. As for why the quake missed, you were probably attacking a flying enemy. I'm pretty sure swapping hands won't matter.
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I just went and tried neo exdeath a few times, and nope. Can't get him yet. I can't kill the middle part before he casts almagest at least once, and that's basically a wipe since it murders the black mage and ninja, and the 2 berserkers die soon afterwards. I tried the magic lamp and that works on the back which is good, but I'm not ready for him yet. So I'm going to finish the optional content then find a good place to grind XP. Any recommendations for that? Or I may be using the wrong equipment? I tried crystal armor or power suits on the berserkers, they're both dual wielding, maybe they should use shields instead, idk. I do think it's the XP though. My levels are 38 40 42 42. I haven't been running unless I have to, and I think I've been grinding in fact, rather than avoiding fights. I'm not using the chicken knife, which I have, but maybe I should which would take a lot of a different kind of grinding. At least I've maxed out my job stuff. Edit: unless, does defend work against almagest? Edit 2: maybe the earth wall or reflect from the magic lamp would help too. redreader fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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Almagest is magic, so neither defending nor Golem will work, and it also can't be reflected. However, you do have one shot of Shell from the Wonder Wand, which will halve Alamgest's damage (until it gets dispelled).
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redreader posted:I just went and tried neo exdeath a few times, and nope. Can't get him yet. I can't kill the middle part before he casts almagest at least once, and that's basically a wipe since it murders the black mage and ninja, and the 2 berserkers die soon afterwards. Give your ninja a Twin Lance in the main hand and the Chicken Knife in the off-hand, the game gets confused about there being three attacks and will never proc Flee so you can do mondo damage with basic attacks. You can also give your BLM !Throw and your Ninja !Black (although those are your only sensible options regardless), head to the end of the Ronkan Ruins part of the Rift and spam Thunder Scrolls/Thundagas at the enemies there for fast and easy EXP. You're even right next to the Phantom Village healing jar so you can keep going until you feel like you're set. You should also give your Berserkers Aegis Shields if you have them, for the 1/3 chance to block magic, including Almagest. And yeah, try to set Shell on someone via Wonder Wand if you can, and Odin from the Magic Lamp will take out the back portion of NED (save it for last to skip the desperation phase!). Finally, if you haven't already, give EVERYONE Hermes Sandals and set the Battle Speed to 6 in the options if you're on the GBA version. The setting is bugged there to only make the enemies faster the higher it is, so turning it to minimum makes the game way easier in your favor
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Thanks for all those details! I'm on snes so that one part won't work, but otherwise, that's exactly what I wanted.
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 First time beating the game in probably a decade. First official run and with a pretty lucky roll: Red Mage (ugh)/Time Mage/Samurai/Mime. Hard to fail with Time Mage and Samurai. Pointlessly grinded the chicken knife only to use it, like, once? Oh well. Shinryu is definitely possible with this setup with at least the Wonder Rod and the Mirage Vest trick (SNES), and I might get to it. I don't know if Omega is possible without a ton of RNG luck and/or power leveling. I didn't really track the toxxes, but this one definitely hits: Arrrthritis posted:
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Dayvan Cowboy posted:Red Mage (ugh)/Time Mage Ahh, the rarely seen 'Double Time' maneuver.
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Can Red Mage/Time Mage double cast Quick for 8x Meteo? That sounds, uh, effective (though not against Omega). Time Mage can always beat Omega with the Quickleak bug, where you cast Quick, snap a Venom Rod as your first action, and decline to take your second action, preferring to sit around with time frozen while Sap does its thing. It’s a bit dumb, but it works.
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My run ended in defeat. I ground up to a level (44-46) where I had enough hp to survive almagest but I think i needed about 5 more levels. I decided to go back and grind and even though I was on save state 190, it only had the last 5 (during the final battle). Actual save games didn't work properly on the ps Vita RetroArch either so gently caress this, I'll just donate. I'm finally free. So Yeah, my problem was definitely just levels. The black mage had 1800 hp (she was the lowest level too, due to often being the only dead person at the end of a fight), the ninja had about 1820, and the two berserkers had 3000. It just wasn't enough. Almagest was hitting for about 1640 I think? I tried flame ring and heal with fire, and that helped massively. I got pretty far in the final battle and maybe I could have done it, but the black mage just ended up getting berserked by grand cross all the time. I tried to go back to before the boss fight to grind some more and discovered I couldn't. About 400 more hp on the black mage and ninja would have helped. They'd often get murdered by 2 1200 damage hits in a row, or almagest and one hit of literally anything. I also had both berserkers with the aegis shield and I suspect it would have been better to give them both two weapons, since the ninja and black mage mostly did grand cross fixing, almagest pre and post healing, phoenix down resurrecting and elixir drinking. redreader fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Jul 21, 2021 |
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   And that's a wrap for the first run this year, and my first triple crown. When you actually bother stock up for !mix, chemist is ludicrous.     I didn't really do any of the toxx incentives here (I might've sold a legendary weapon or two?) as I wasn't really keeping track, more just gunning for finally taking out Omega once. Dragoon got surprisingly way more useful than I was expecting at the tail end, with the Holy Lance and Dragon Lance doing a -lot- of heavy lifting. If they at all had any other good lances they'd probably be able to keep up with the other physical jobs better. Once the victory clears I'll see if I can get a manual job fair or something for 4 cannoneers, should be a fun trip.
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Run #2: Chemist/Summoner/Geomancer/Mystic Knight   Obviously a super easy run and a obvious triple crown (though I wiped to shinryu because I didn’t realize I didn’t need to break the power staff and the proceeded to wipe to Twintania on the way back). Probably one of the worst to actually get Mystic Knight since between summoner and Chemist most things died pretty quickly. And Geomancer is Geomancer aka another summoner/mixer. I ended up doing the trench and Istory Falls plus got Leviathan since I never tried to use elemental power with it. girl dick energy posted:
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redreader posted:My run ended in defeat. I ground up to a level (44-46) where I had enough hp to survive almagest but I think i needed about 5 more levels. I decided to go back and grind and even though I was on save state 190, it only had the last 5 (during the final battle). Actual save games didn't work properly on the ps Vita RetroArch either so gently caress this, I'll just donate. I'm finally free. If you're still up for a last ditch effort, the almagest piece is vulnerable to petrify, so you can try spamming break on it. It's got a lot of magic evasion so your hit rate is going to suck, but who knows, maybe you'll get lucky.
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nrook posted:Can Red Mage/Time Mage double cast Quick for 8x Meteo? That sounds, uh, effective (though not against Omega). Yup, forgot about the venom rod. It's completely unsporting, but it definitely works.
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Dayvan Cowboy posted:Yup, forgot about the venom rod. It's completely unsporting, but it definitely works. Killer robots would certainly exploit bugs or gimmicks to kill you so it's only fair you play by their rules.
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And that's Run 4 down. Pure Chaos gave me Blue/Dancer/Bard/White, a truly OP team. Got my various toxx images ready:nrook posted:
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Just finished a triple crown!DalaranJ posted:Last year, I asked you to commit The Perfect Crime. This year, I need you to Attack and Dethrone God(s). All summons, no summoner. MNK/RED/RAN/CHM  The summons were also items prior to breaking them out in the Void to be on the summon page, in case that counts for something nrook posted:Legendary Weapon Charity Sale! I also sold all 12 legendary weapons but I don't want to post up 12 different screen shots. I have MNK/RED/RAN/CHM, the monk is unarmed, the red mage is either barehanded or main gauche, the ranger is X-Fighting a chicken knife, and my chemist has a main gauche Rosalie_A posted:Thus, here's my So I ground out !Dualcast on all four characters, because I'm going through a kind of lovely moment and mindlessly grinding was comforting. I haven't used !Dualcast once though, because the only caster I got was Red Mage. I almost feel like this is cheating the spirit of the challenge, but in the process of grinding out the summons and legendary weapons for other toxxes I had to do Fork Tower, where I completely forgot to set !Dualcast on either character I sent up the magic side. As far as I can tell thats the one time all game that I wished I had !Dualcast. In general I've been playing with setting barehanded on everyone and just punching all my problems away. If I need in combat healing I have the chemist use items, because Cura doesn't keep up. For difficult bosses I set !Mix and face roll. This is my first time ever time really using !Mix though, and its absurd. I beat Omega and Shinryu at lvl 44 on Steam without berserking. My last Fiesta I also got Red Mage and no other casters (except Blue, which can't be !Dualcast!) and also ground out !Dualcast on all four characters. I have never actually used any !Dualcast combos. Next Fiesta if I pull Red Mage again I'm jobfairing it for anything else. Ace Transmuter posted:
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Very first Fiesta run finished! In all my time with FFV, the Bard, Blue, and Dragoon are classes I seldom ever used. Forget about being chained to them for the full game. Lessons learned: Bards are *stupid* useful. The Requiem song downright trivialized a few dungeons that I remember being VERY hard. Nevermind the stat booster songs. Blue Mage is almost broken. The spells(for the most part) were piss easy to get, I think I only missed one. As a kid I never gave the level based spells a glance, what a buffoon I was. Dragoon was okay I guess? Moreso after slapping !Blue on it. I didnt screencap any toxx incentives, all I consciously did was sell off ten of the legendary weapons. I kept Apollo's Harp, and the Holy Lance.    
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