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Scudworth posted:Drafting tables still exist So do cassette tapes, but I doubt my nephew is knowingly referencing them when he says "rewind."
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Shine posted:So do cassette tapes, but I doubt my nephew is knowingly referencing them when he says "rewind." That depends what age you assume it was normal to have ever seen a drafting table, even when they were normal. I didn't see one until I got to college, where you'll still see them. They're still sold in art supply stores. And in the background of shows where someone is an architect, always.
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Jul 22, 2021 23:27
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Yeah I don't think that's an age thing so much as just what one generally does. Like how my buddy had never seen a post hole digger and asked me what it was ; he's older than me, but grew up in a city so he'd never needed to dig a post hole before. If you're around drafting, you'll see a drafting table. And I doubt that'll change for a bit because the computerized version are still often clunky from what I hear.
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Jul 23, 2021 02:37
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One I was reminded of tonight by a Futurama episode: when a performer is terrible, a giant hook comes and pulls them off stage. I'm not even sure where that originally comes from. Vaudeville?
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Jul 23, 2021 04:14
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Powered Descent posted:One I was reminded of tonight by a Futurama episode: when a performer is terrible, a giant hook comes and pulls them off stage. Yeah apparently it's a Vaudeville thing, which means it's a trope that's even lost on old audiences.
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Jul 23, 2021 04:36
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Here's a popular brand for a carpet cleaning service that refers to an automobile that was last produced in 1924: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Motor_Carriage_Company The automobile:  Does anyone born in the last 50 years even know about this car?
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Jul 23, 2021 05:25
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I'm assuming from the name that it's a compressed-steam-powered car, and I only know about them from old sci-fi.
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Jul 23, 2021 05:56
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VideoGameVet posted:Does anyone born in the last 50 years even know about this car? As far as oldass cars go, I would say that they are well known, but that’s not saying much. The Stanley Brothers once set the land speed record. Internal combustion took it back within a few years, but no steam‐powered vehicle would be built that could exceed it for over a century. The two could not look more different.  
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Jul 23, 2021 06:46
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VideoGameVet posted:Here's a popular brand for a carpet cleaning service that refers to an automobile that was last produced in 1924: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Motor_Carriage_Company Yeah, I do. Though I usually somehow try to work in a Cleveland Steamer joke in there somehow. "Yeah, its those old cars from a hundred years ago that were powered by steam, uhhhh Cleveland Steamer I think".
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Jul 23, 2021 11:46
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VideoGameVet posted:Here's a popular brand for a carpet cleaning service that refers to an automobile that was last produced in 1924: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Motor_Carriage_Company I knew about it, but I never saw one. I even wrote a book report about the "Steaming Stanley Twins" in Elementary School.
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Bucnasti posted:Yeah apparently it's a Vaudeville thing, which means it's a trope that's even lost on old audiences. The tradition lives on in the executioner at the Apollo theater, though. Anyone who’s ever watched Showtime at the Apollo has seen lovely performers ushered off the stage by a broom or shepherd’s crook.
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Jul 23, 2021 15:49
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VideoGameVet posted:Here's a popular brand for a carpet cleaning service that refers to an automobile that was last produced in 1924: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Motor_Carriage_Company In college I had a roommate whose dad owned one, it ruled.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Yeah I don't think that's an age thing so much as just what one generally does. Like how my buddy had never seen a post hole digger and asked me what it was ; he's older than me, but grew up in a city so he'd never needed to dig a post hole before. If you're around drafting, you'll see a drafting table. And I doubt that'll change for a bit because the computerized version are still often clunky from what I hear. Hand drafting machines is pretty much obsolete in engineering and production type applications, people might still be using them in more design and conceptual type work.
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Jul 24, 2021 03:07
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Art schools still teach traditional skills, including drawing and they use drawing/drafting tables when doing so.
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Jul 24, 2021 06:00
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I've done both CAD and manual drafting in school. Know a lot of people who do it for a living. Not one of them would choose a drafting table over a CAD setup except at gunpoint. Primary reason that manual drafting is still taught is that there's some perspective concepts that are easier to get across that way.
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VideoGameVet posted:Here's a popular brand for a carpet cleaning service that refers to an automobile that was last produced in 1924: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Motor_Carriage_Company Here in Colorado, yes. The Stanley family owned a big creepy old hotel up in the resort town of Estes Park. The hotel was supposedly what inspired Steven King to write the book The Shining. It's still a popular destination, and they have one of those steamer cars on display. Link. Gnoman posted:I've done both CAD and manual drafting in school. Know a lot of people who do it for a living. Not one of them would choose a drafting table over a CAD setup except at gunpoint. Primary reason that manual drafting is still taught is that there's some perspective concepts that are easier to get across that way. I use CAD daily in my work (engineering); I can not imagine doing drafting with pen and paler.
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Jul 26, 2021 15:51
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Cessna posted:I use CAD daily in my work (engineering); I can not imagine doing drafting with pen and paler. I took drafting in high school, and I was much much better with AutoCAD than with pen and paper (not least because my lettering sucked).
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Jul 26, 2021 16:31
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Drafting tables will forever exist in the modern cultural lexicon because any cool leading man architect will always lean over a drafting table as he single handedly designs a whole building on his 6 hour deadline. You can't look cool using AutoCAD. Its like any show about radio or journalism where every set is stuck in some long gone golden era.
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Jul 26, 2021 17:28
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Just LOL at the idea of drawing lines by hand with a ruler being easier than modern software.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Drafting tables will forever exist in the modern cultural lexicon because any cool leading man architect will always lean over a drafting table as he single handedly designs a whole building on his 6 hour deadline. You can't look cool using AutoCAD. Maybe I’m just not up on my prestige television, but are “cool leading man architect” characters in great demand?
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Blue Moonlight posted:Maybe I’m just not up on my prestige television, but are “cool leading man architect” characters in great demand? Hallmark channel. Christmas Tower.
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Jul 26, 2021 20:48
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Yeah Architect is the go to profession for the dreamy lead in RomComs because nobody in Hollywood understand what Architects actually do.
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Jul 26, 2021 21:04
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That show was more about his 3 sons and the wife's 3 daughters than about him being an architect.
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Jul 26, 2021 21:25
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How deep does the desirable architect trope go? The Fountainhead did it in 1943. Rand was a hack and I cannot imagine that she didn’t lift it from elsewhere.
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Platystemon posted:How deep does the desirable architect trope go? I thought that came from her having a crush on Frank Lloyd Wright?
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Blue Moonlight posted:Maybe I’m just not up on my prestige television, but are “cool leading man architect” characters in great demand? It's not TV, but I highly recommend watching the opening tutorial of the video game Heavy Rain, where the main character is a cool architect and does the "sketch to building" thing in like ten minutes in his glamorous home office
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Bucnasti posted:Yeah Architect is the go to profession for the dreamy lead in RomComs because nobody in Hollywood understand what Architects actually do. At least in America, by the time we got to the 1870s, American architects were designing new buildings for the public that were leading to new fashion and art. While doing this, they became more than someone who designed a box, but more of an artist, and we got a bunch of famous, man about town, gossip-worthy architects like Sullivan, Jenney, Wright, and other Chicago Style acolytes. This elevated the status of the architect, and they are now seen as artistic creatives, and don't carry the stodginess of a lawyer or doctor as a stand in for a learned person who is respected and makes good money. Just reading anything about Frank Lloyd Wright, and how his scandals were followed internationally in the early 1900s made the public very aware of the profession. I think that the idea of the Ad Man, or marketing executive being used often also for a profession in media, again shows how writers of media will choose a "creative" style job as a main character since the writers often saw them as fellow creatives, and used both as representations in their work as opposed to other professions. TL;DR, Architects had creative sex appeal. Hollywood treats Ad Men and Marketing Executive positions the same way in their writing.
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It's the fantasy of someone who has the creativity of an artist type but is also respectable, educated and professional (and middle class with a steady paycheck).
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And that, kids, is how I met your mother.
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I think it's a bit of Great Man theory. "He designed that WHOLE building!" Which is impressive when you're looking at a 500 foot skyscraper. Never mind all the architects who figured out the details, the engineers who translated it into reality, and the workers who actually put up the structure. Although it's nice to have one person to blame when said building falls apart or starts setting fires.
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Jaguars! posted:people might still be using them in more design and conceptual type work. It's this, there's been a drafting table or three somewhere in any studio I've worked at, because sometimes you want/need to draw big things with real paper and maybe multiple people because the Cintiq is just not cutting it at that moment. And if you're doing print work you use them to examine the proofs for corrections.
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SpelledBackwards posted:And that, kids, is how I met your mother. I feel like Ted Mosby might be a subversion of the Dashing Leading Man Architect because he is a complete dweeb and also the worst.
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Jul 27, 2021 03:35
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Bucnasti posted:Yeah Architect is the go to profession for the dreamy lead in RomComs because nobody in Hollywood understand what Architects actually do. Yeah, it's the male equivalent of the female lead having a do-nothing job at a magazine or owning a "quirky" store.
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Jul 27, 2021 11:58
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Sweevo posted:Yeah, it's the male equivalent of the female lead having a do-nothing job at a magazine or owning a "quirky" store. Fran's store in Black Books was such a good sendup of that trope.
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Sweevo posted:Yeah, it's the male equivalent of the female lead having a do-nothing job at a magazine or owning a "quirky" store. Or a bakery where they only work 10 hours a week and never get up before 9am. The most realistic bakery owner ever portrayed on film was Kristen Wiig in Bridesmaids because her shop closed and she was stuck living with her parent.
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Cobalt-60 posted:I think it's a bit of Great Man theory. "He designed that WHOLE building!" Which is impressive when you're looking at a 500 foot skyscraper. Never mind all the architects who figured out the details, the engineers who translated it into reality, and the workers who actually put up the structure. Although it's nice to have one person to blame when said building falls apart or starts setting fires. Personally I'm all for the field of Competitive Architecture where you build a structure that will burn the other guy's building down.
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Scudworth posted:It's this, there's been a drafting table or three somewhere in any studio I've worked at, because sometimes you want/need to draw big things with real paper and maybe multiple people because the Cintiq is just not cutting it at that moment. And if you're doing print work you use them to examine the proofs for corrections. Back before Covid made us all work from home, we just used a conference room table for this.
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The nice page is making me wonder how many teens know where 420 comes from
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Hitler's Birthday obviously.
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