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Arsenic Lupin posted:AITA for getting rid of the dress my wife wanted to wear to my son's wedding? This might be like the one post where "I know this sounds bad but hear me out" might actually work. This guy is still an rear end in a top hat but not for this specific event.
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tinytort posted:It's part of how you clean a freezer, yeah. Modern freezers are supposed to (I think) have stuff to make it something you don't need to do as frequently, or so you can just flip a switch and have it defrost itself without needing to unplug the whole thing, but there is not yet a freezer made that doesn't need to be defrosted at least once a year if it's being used regularly. ya know, at first I kept thinking "what??? i've never had to do that with my current fridge" and then i remember that every year for the past few years, our power has been out for at least a couple days due to PG&E power shutoffs! thanks pg&e for keeping our fridge clean by making us throw out everything a couple times a year!!!!!!!
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Jul 29, 2021 18:14
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Das Boo posted:You should at least wear undies around the house in case you drop dead and coroner crew has to come pick you up. Let's be polite! gently caress that i'm not living my entire life in discomfort in my own home just for the one day someone will have to see my unfortunate nude corpse. i'll be dead anyway, humiliation will be a thing of the past. suck it, future coroner.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:15
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but do put on something if you're going to sit on the furniture, or at least lay a towel down. i do care about hygiene
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Jul 29, 2021 18:17
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Balls stick to leather couches in the summer time and you're usually unaware of it until you try to get up and just for a moment you think the furniture is trying to castrate you. Kind of like Beauty and the Beast.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:21
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Arsenic Lupin posted:AITA for getting rid of the dress my wife wanted to wear to my son's wedding? Hahahahahaha. New wife is still insanely jealous of old wife and this dude is clueless. I wonder if some of it is "dog catches car now doesn't know what to do" with new wife after chasing this loser.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:24
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metachronos posted:This might be like the one post where "I know this sounds bad but hear me out" might actually work. This guy is still an rear end in a top hat but not for this specific event. that guy's bullshit kind of lead inexorably to this specific event and now he's upset that there's any repercussions on himself
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Tarkus posted:Me and my ex hired a cleaner for our house once on a trial basis. She cleaned our house but also decided to move almost all the furniture in the living room and completely rearranged the kitchen cupboards. We never called her to clean again. That's hilarious. Was the new organization of the kitchen better or worse than what you had? I was very thoughtful in my kitchen when I moved in amd I'm often annoyed with Air BNBs organization or friends houses so I might actually be the weirdo.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:27
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the only way some rando coming in and 'optimizing' your kitchen is going to improve it is if you use the kitchen so rarely it might as well be a stranger's anyway, it's not like there's one mathematically perfect place to stick the spatulas you've calculated
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Jul 29, 2021 18:29
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Unless their spending like $20k there's no way they improved the kitchen with their reorg.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:32
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My grandma (dad's mom) used to reorganize our kitchen every time she came to visit into whatever configuration made more sense to her, and it drove my mom absolutely insane. She would also do it to my and my sister's rooms under the guise of "tidying up."
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Jul 29, 2021 18:33
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StormDrain posted:That's hilarious. Was the new organization of the kitchen better or worse than what you had? I was very thoughtful in my kitchen when I moved in amd I'm often annoyed with Air BNBs organization or friends houses so I might actually be the weirdo. I'm not sure if it was better or worse, it wasn't as though we had hundreds of cupboards and we weren't a factory kitchen either so we just kinda dealt with where stuff was.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:39
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Wasn't there a story where a lady got cat hair stuck to her IUD? That's what I would worry about. idk I think underwear is necessary for hygiene issues. I'm also guessing she uses tampons or cups for her period but I wouldn't want to bleed on my couch
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Jul 29, 2021 18:42
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AITA for not lying about why I could not remove my headscarf?quote:I have not been able to sleep over this, so I made a reddit just for a judgement! Thanks! Religious bigotry and transphobia. This one got huge debates going in the comments, but could easily be fake, it seems too perfectly outrageous.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:44
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don't tell people what to do with their clothes lol, you're not the fuckin boss
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Jul 29, 2021 18:52
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It does seem like a perfectly crafted "checkmate, liberals!" story, but there are lots of people that seem surprised to learn that WASPs don't have a monopoly on racism and bigotry and minorities aren't all Unified by Oppression.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:58
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idk seems like deliberate bait wouldn't be so reluctant to say out loud the reason she doesn't want to take off the scarf. if it's bait they're a master baiter
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Jul 29, 2021 19:04
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Arsenic Lupin posted:AITA for getting rid of the dress my wife wanted to wear to my son's wedding? Impressive, you managed to be the rear end in a top hat before finishing a single sentence!
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Jul 29, 2021 19:07
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Chamale posted:AITA for not lying about why I could not remove my headscarf? It does seem contrived, but that is a spicey comment section. I think Reddit made hundreds of dollars off people buying reward emoji in that thread
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Jul 29, 2021 19:09
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there's enough people furiously and indignantly issuing every possible take on the cotton ceiling but for hats in the comments that idk what the point is in calling it fake, like sure every story interesting enough to repost here could be written up to stir poo poo but these are clearly not such outlandishly unheard-of positions that you'd never get people arguing them irl. is the problem here just that the scenario's suggesting there's some inconsistency in the ethical framework we're collectively cobbling together on the fly mostly out of gut intuitions
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Jul 29, 2021 19:09
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Chamale posted:AITA for not lying about why I could not remove my headscarf? Tori has the right to be trans, OP has the right to keep on whatever articles of clothes she feels comfortable with. This isn't hard, people. The assholes here are the ones that refuse to compromise and just let everyone do their own thing.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:21
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Epic Doctor Fetus posted:Tori has the right to be trans, OP has the right to keep on whatever articles of clothes she feels comfortable with. This isn't hard, people. The assholes here are the ones that refuse to compromise and just let everyone do their own thing. The way it was set it up it looks like the group deliberately engineered this situation without the bride. Deliberately engineering an angry fracas at what sounds like the Bachelorette party should hopefully mean the bride has a much smaller bridal party.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:25
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FoolyCharged posted:The way it was set it up it looks like the group deliberately engineered this situation without the bride. Deliberately engineering an angry fracas at what sounds like the Bachelorette party should hopefully mean the bride has a much smaller bridal party. And obviously whoever orchestrated all that is an rear end in a top hat.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:31
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:is the problem here just that the OP's suggesting there's some inconsistency in the ethical framework we're collectively cobbling together on the fly mostly out of gut intuitions Think this is the nail on the head. It takes two hot topic marginalized groups (or 3, given OP is Muslim and female) and pits them against each other. I just say ESH. OP for her thinking, Tori for trying to force a woman to remove her scarf, bride potentially if what the sister says is true. I guess Tori sucks a little bit more for forcing a confrontation when it is virtually of no importance why OP chooses to keep her scarf on. Don't demand people take off their clothes, ever.
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Epic Doctor Fetus posted:Tori has the right to be trans, OP has the right to keep on whatever articles of clothes she feels comfortable with. This isn't hard, people. The assholes here are the ones that refuse to compromise and just let everyone do their own thing. Das Boo posted:I guess Tori sucks a little bit more for forcing a confrontation when it is virtually of no importance why OP chooses to keep her scarf on. Don't demand people take off their clothes, ever. Kenshin fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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Late Fees posted:idk seems like deliberate bait wouldn't be so reluctant to say out loud the reason she doesn't want to take off the scarf. if it's bait they're a master baiter r/relationships: if it's bait they're a master baiter
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quote:But the other girls at the table got curious. I got uncomfortable and I just said “Oh I’m actually not really comfortable taking it off right now” When pressed as to why, I said theres guests I don’t feel comfortable taking it off in front of. There was a collective “ohhh” and I thought cool thats over. Lol @ the OP cluelessly throwing chum to a group of sharks and thinking she successfully handled the situation.
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Is the issue with Tori the fact that the op knew her before her transition? Like if they met after the transition would have it been non issue? it feels implied but I could be wrong
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Jul 29, 2021 19:44
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Yeah the headscarf thing is rough bc yes no one should demand that someone take off a piece of clothing, on the other hand, the reason she won't is because to her deep-down Tori is still a man and she's not allowed to show her hair in front of men. She shouldn't have to take it off, but by not doing so, she's signaling she doesn't accept a person in the group as part of the group. That's just a conflict waiting to happen. That said, it definitely feels like a gotcha situation trying to pit two marginalized groups against each other, so my ultimate reaction is wtf, why did someone engineer for that to happen and for discomfort and pain to be caused.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Yeah the headscarf thing is rough bc yes no one should demand that someone take off a piece of clothing, on the other hand, the reason she won't is because to her deep-down Tori is still a man and she's not allowed to show her hair in front of men. I mean, she said so herself that she didn't know how transitioned Tori was. If she was biologically male that could create some confusion because centuries old religions didn't think to clarify biological sex vs gender identity when writing rules
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Kenshin posted:
Also true. Which I can see as another reason people are questioning the validity. It's kind of perfectly constructed. But I'm also supposing that means Tori wasn't in group chat? So I guess the real rear end in a top hat is the person who was in group chat and badgered OP about Tori, specifically. If that person wanted to spare Tori's feelings, she wouldn't have pulled her into it in front of everyone. I definitely have friends from contrasting belief groups (mostly atheists and Mormons, for some reason), and I would be an absolute rear end in a top hat to broach what I know is a sensitive topic for either group at a drat bridal shower.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:50
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Kenshin posted:These are both true, but at the same time the OP is telling her group of friends that she doesn't really consider the transwoman in their group a real woman. She can pretty much expect to lose the friends that support the other friend over this. Let's look at the OP for a second. She's a member of a religion that requires headscarves and she observes that requirement. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say she probably wasn't raised in a very progressive, trans-friendly environment. She didn't use her religion as an excuse to throw a fit and demand that Tori be thrown out of the "women only" bridal party. She did, however, feel uncomfortable taking off the headscarf and does all but admit that Tori was the reason. Now, if her friends want to disown her over that, that's their prerogative. A good friend would see that the OP is at least trying to do the best she can in the framework she lives in. You don't change hearts and minds overnight. You work with people in their comfort zone and allow them to enlighten at their own pace. All they managed to do by escalating the situation is set back OP/trans relations.
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Epic Doctor Fetus posted:Now, if her friends want to disown her over that, that's their prerogative. A good friend would see that the OP is at least trying to do the best she can in the framework she lives in. You don't change hearts and minds overnight. You work with people in their comfort zone and allow them to enlighten at their own pace. All they managed to do by escalating the situation is set back OP/trans relations. well yes but this is the internet
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Reddit just made enough award-gifting money to keep the lights on for a millennium by pitting trans rights, women's bodily autonomy, and respect for Muslim religious traditions in a three-way cage match of unstoppable forces slamming into one another at full speed
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Epic Doctor Fetus posted:You don't change hearts and minds overnight. You work with people in their comfort zone and allow them to enlighten at their own pace. All they managed to do by escalating the situation is set back OP/trans relations. Also this, big time. There are people you throw in the trash, but OP genuinely seems conflicted and is attempting to negotiate her religious beliefs with Tori's feelings. That's the sort of person you continue to talk to and engage with. There's a very good chance she'll continue to soften and you can come out having helped a person be better.
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my first intuition here would be that the story of the transwoman barging up yelling "as a woman I DEMAND you STRIP for me!" is that crazy ol' terf strawman about perverts pretending to be trans to sexually harass people in bathrooms or whatever but there's plenty of people even here sincerely defending that and joining the call for the OP to strip, so  checks out I guess
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Jul 29, 2021 19:59
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Das Boo posted:Also this, big time. There are people you throw in the trash, but OP genuinely seems conflicted and is attempting to negotiate her religious beliefs with Tori's feelings. That's the sort of person you continue to talk to and engage with. There's a very good chance she'll continue to soften and you can come out having helped a person be better. Exactly! Forcing confrontations like that almost always push people like the OP back to their "side." If her friends abandon her over this, she'll go back to hanging out with more traditional muslims who will use this situation as an example of just how terrible trans people/liberals/groups of more than 3 women/whatever are and cement OPs more conservative views.
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There's so many stupid digital hugs, F keys, and even a poop knife award on that post. One of the mods has also created a top-post saying not to mis-gender anyone in the OP, at least. I guess the sub is being brigaded since it was controversial enough to get on the front page.
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Jul 29, 2021 20:04
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I avoid this problem by not having any religious friends. Seems straightforward.
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compshateme85 posted:I avoid this problem by not having any
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