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Kevin DuBrow posted:Making Space Marines asexual is honestly one of the best things they've done for the lore. So many unpleasant reading moments avoided. They didn't used to be?
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Space Marines should be intensely homo-romantic asexuals, as outlined in Ian Watson's seminal text "SPACE MARINE"
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Aug 7, 2021 13:48
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D-Pad posted:Nope. New anthology is going in preorder tomorrow. All the crime stuff so far has been great so I'm excited. Featuring Robert Rath writing a medical thriller novella too. Oh and The Infinite and the Divine paperback is up for pre-order too. My advice for anyone on the fence of getting it: Just loving do it.
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Aug 7, 2021 14:08
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Cooked Auto posted:Featuring Robert Rath writing a medical thriller novella too. Medical thriller in 40k? It's going to be Nurglings all the way down isn't it. Either that or Doc Eldar.
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Aug 7, 2021 14:09
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Z the IVth posted:Medical thriller in 40k? It's going to be Nurglings all the way down isn't it. You could also do an Ork Mad Dok "I needz you gitz to get me a thread squig STAT, da bosses head got cut clean off!"
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Space Marines should be intensely homo-romantic asexuals, as outlined in Ian Watson's seminal text "SPACE MARINE" 
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Aug 7, 2021 15:03
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Space Marines should be intensely homo-romantic asexuals, as outlined in Ian Watson's seminal text "SPACE MARINE" That book was so goddamned good. The story of three Marines from three different social classes on Necromunda, joining the Imperial Fists, following their lives from Initiates to Scouts and then Marines, that alone is enough to sell anyone on reading it. The fart jokes, Titans flipping eachother off, and boarding torpedoes up a Tyrannid hive ship’s arse just make it loving perfect. Go loving read Space Marine.
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Aug 7, 2021 15:14
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The part of Space Marine that stuck with me the most was when it specifically described the effect of the pain glove on the dude's dong. Great book, would recommend.
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Aug 7, 2021 20:29
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My dad bought the Czevak novels and loved them and asked me if he should buy Space Marine, my fingers punched holes through my phone I was typing back YES so hard.
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Aug 7, 2021 20:36
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Inquisitor was good too. I've got first editions of all of Ian Watson's stuff in perfect condition. Inquisitor series, Space Marine, and Deathwatch (the anthology that includes a related Watson story). Harlequin and Chaos Child are the signed collectors editions. I've been in touch with Watson by email and he has agreed to sign the rest if I send them to him once covid dies down. Big fan, I had to raise some money and sold a lot of LEs but held on to all of that.
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D-Pad posted:Inquisitor was good too. I've got first editions of all of Ian Watson's stuff in perfect condition. Inquisitor series, Space Marine, and Deathwatch (the anthology that includes a related Watson story). Harlequin and Chaos Child are the signed collectors editions. I've been in touch with Watson by email and he has agreed to sign the rest if I send them to him once covid dies down. Big fan, I had to raise some money and sold a lot of LEs but held on to all of that. drat. That's very dope
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Aug 8, 2021 00:11
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Don't suppose someone has the Infinite and the Divine hardcover they'd want to sell? Can't find this thing anywhere.
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Aug 8, 2021 00:41
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D-Pad posted:Inquisitor was good too. The great part is, that's the manuscript that Stanley Kubrick read. https://www.ianwatson.info/plumbing-stanley-kubrick/
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Aug 8, 2021 05:58
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Telsa Cola posted:They still going with the whole the Iron Hands are somehow turning themselves into blanks through a combination of bionics and severe emotional repression? Still mostly implied rather than stated, but it is interesting that in the game rules the Iron Hands have the ability on a strategem for a 50/50 chance to point at a Psychic Power and say "gently caress you, that didn't happen." The only other factions in the game who can do that? The Adeptus Mechanicus who are as cybernetic as the Iron Hands, and the Necrons who are literally soulless robots.
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Where are the books?! Don’t they want my money?
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mllaneza posted:The great part is, that's the manuscript that Stanley Kubrick read. That is amazing
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IshmaelZarkov posted:I loved the reveal that Angron is pretty convinced he'd have turned against the Emperor anyway. Cause what Angron was built for was to cast down tyrants, and by god casting down tyrants is what he was gonna do. That's also Mortarion's gig.
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Cessna posted:That's also Mortarion's gig. And both were going to die in the attempt until the Big E showed up. And they were both grateful and lived happily ever after la-la-la not listening anymore
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Angron was there to defeat tyrants. Mortarion was there to defeat sorcerer kings. If we just a regular tyrant Mortarion would be fine with you. Now the Big E was both so would most likely need to deal with both of them eventually but for slightly different reasons.
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Where is the best place to sell Limited Editions? I've got a copy of the Talon of Horus and Black Legion that I'd like to sell.
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I finished Urdesh. On the one hand, it sucks knowing how the siege ends so nothing done here really matters, on the other hand it is a damned fine example of bolter porn, nay, bolter erotica. The Iron Snakes are a cool chapter and we already know many of the marines we follow, plus the saint of course. There are some great combat sequences in this book, really first rate stuff. And it looks like the Beati has only gotten more powerful since she soloed a Baneblade in melee combat back in the day. Highly recommended.
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Wasn't it hinted in one of the novels showing Angron's past that before Butcher's Nails hosed him up, he had some kind of empathetic powers which allowed him to take away others' pain and help them relate to each other better? If I am not misremembering, then that would imply that Angron was originally meant to be therapist for his brothers, which, let's be honest here, so many of them desperately needed. Kurze was probably originally meant to be Chief Justice of sorts, before crash-landing to Urban Hellhole Crimeland and going crazy. Mortarion could have been meant to some sort of Witchfinder General. An inquisitor, one could say. That's assuming, of course, that Emperor wasn't going to take them behind the barn once they'd served their purpose of winning the Great Crusade for him.
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OPAONI posted:Where is the best place to sell Limited Editions? I've got a copy of the Talon of Horus and Black Legion that I'd like to sell. How much you want for Talon of Horus? I've had Black Legion sitting lonely on my shelf for a while.
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:How much you want for Talon of Horus? I've had Black Legion sitting lonely on my shelf for a while. Ebay's listing it for 400 in very good condition. I'd like around that.
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Welp can't swing that. Good luck!
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Warden posted:Wasn't it hinted in one of the novels showing Angron's past that before Butcher's Nails hosed him up, he had some kind of empathetic powers which allowed him to take away others' pain and help them relate to each other better? If I am not misremembering, then that would imply that Angron was originally meant to be therapist for his brothers, which, let's be honest here, so many of them desperately needed. The evidence certainly favors Curze being the one primarch the Emperor properly warned about the Warp, at least.
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I knew there was going to be no shortage of grimdark in the Night Lords trilogy but I was still taken aback when ADB describes a baby being held by its legs and smashed against a wall, or introducing a seven year old and having her murdered on the same page.
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Kevin DuBrow posted:I knew there was going to be no shortage of grimdark in the Night Lords trilogy but I was still taken aback when ADB describes a baby being held by its legs and smashed against a wall, or introducing a seven year old and having her murdered on the same page. The third book is one hard reminder that the Night Lords are MONSTERS.
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It's so good But still the grossest stuff I've ever read was in Lords of Silence. I still remember the concept of someone smelling a Death Guard and then throwing up their own esophagus and dying, absolutely over the top stuff, which is exactly why I love 40k
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I found the torture stuff in the third book to be really rough reading. Just didn’t like it at all. It’s great, a big loving gut punch reminder that the characters you’ve been rooting for are capital “M” Monsters.
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Kevin DuBrow posted:I knew there was going to be no shortage of grimdark in the Night Lords trilogy but I was still taken aback when ADB describes a baby being held by its legs and smashed against a wall, or introducing a seven year old and having her murdered on the same page. Hey maybe you’re only seeing part of the picture and that baby and kid are both colossal assholes, who’s to say??
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Lawdog69 posted:I found the torture stuff in the third book to be really rough reading. Just didn’t like it at all. It’s great, a big loving gut punch reminder that the characters you’ve been rooting for are capital “M” Monsters. Exactly why I think it's my favourite 40k book series - ADB managed to make those Monsters sympathetic, then occasionally reminds you that whilst they may be tragic, or even understandable, they still knowingly chose literal evil. Not subjective, but actual personifications of Evil with an E. E: Arguably, the Night Lords were the worst Legion - Because they weren't naieve, or tricked, or forced into it. They knew what Evil was before they ever met it, and dived in anyway. Shockeh fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Aug 10, 2021 |
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Reading through some of the recent books and GW is leaning fairly heavily into A. Chaos is undeniably lovely and Evil and B. The Emperor was right about hiding the whole warp thing.
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I’m reading ‘Mark of Faith’ and I’m not sure how much I’m liking it. All of the characters feel kind of the same and a little overly melodramatic, and I’m a third of the way in and the characters haven’t even embarked on their “quest” yet. The melodrama worked great with the opening chapter with the last stand, because that kind of thing should be melodramatic. Everything else, though? I think we could dial it back a little.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/11/meet-the-man-brave-enough-to-get-inside-the-head-of-ghazghkull-thraka/ I think this is the first time I've seen GW announce a sequel to a book that isn't even out yet.
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I mean, I gave up reading BL books because a book coming out meant it didn’t come out for another year in non-collector edition format, so this is the logical next step.
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I'd love an actual date I can go to the store and buy these in paperback.
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Finally ploughing my way through the Horus Heresy, my favourite book so far is The First Heretic. In my opinion it's the most believable story about a primarch's downfall out of the ones I've read so far. While I'm enjoying the series overall, I'm finding a lot of the primarch's downfall arcs to be unsatisfying and a bit rushed. Personally, a fall from grace in 40K is really satisfying if I start off by getting to know, liking and empathising with the character as they go through the steps of: - Good guy doing good things for good reasons - Good guy doing bad things for good reasons - Just-barely-good guy doing bad things for barely-justifiable reasons - Tiny, tiny touch of the warp pushes them over the edge into bad guy doing bad things for bad reasons This is partly why I'm a bit hesitant to read the Bequin trilogy. I'll both love and be devastated if Eisenhorn succumbs properly to the darkness (no spoilers on this one please  ).I found Horus' shift from Emepror's Favourite Child to Space Hitler was a bit rushed, and a bit too reliant on what seem to be a staple HH macguffin, the chaos-tainted blade. I think I would've enjoyed it more if they'd taken the time to really make me like Horus as a character, and go along with him on a journey from light to grey to dark. I didn't really feel we got that. I felt it was a lot of "off-camera" whispering in his ear by Erebus and co, plus magic blade, plus chaos temple, which all served to me the impression that Horus is more a puppet of Chaos doing bad stuff because of the taint of the warp, rather than the far more satisfying concept of him still very much being himself, but genuinely turning against his father for reasons he truly believes in and the warp was just there to nudge him in the "right" direction and give him power. Fulgrim's downfall I found a bit clumsy, as I just couldn't seem to get fully invested in how important the concept of "perfection" was to him and his legion, to the extent that they would fall to chaos (again, though, chaos tainted blade to the... uh... rescue?) Angron's downfall I bought immediately, but it was jarring to me as I couldn't fathom how the Emperor didn't see it coming as soon as Angron was found. Why put this damaged, broken man in charge of a legion? (Maybe its all part of Space 4D Chess that will be revealed when I get further in, but I found it confusing for now.) From the first depictions of Angron in Betrayer it should've been obvious to anyone with knowledge of the true nature of the warp (so, admittedly, probably only the Emperor and I'm guessing maybe Malcador) that he is going to become an avatar of Khorne. Getting back to Lorgar, this story I really enjoyed. It's possible this is because I went into it with absolutely no knowledge of the Word Bearers prior fluff, but I loved the idea of an entire legion going against the Imperial Truth, and the scene where the Word Bearers are put in the naughty corner by Guilliman and Malcador was electric. This served as a great start to his downfall and made it all the more believable. About to read Master of Mankind, maybe there will be some reveals here that plug some of the holes.
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