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Rutibex posted:the earth won't be unlivable venus scenario no matter what. technology will save all of the privileged people quite easily. lotta people think that they can science their way into replicating enough of earth's biosphere but smaller and they're totally wrong the beauty of the climate apocalypse is that its inescapable and everyone's gonna get owned in their own time
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Oct 2, 2021 14:08
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I read something I found upsetting yesterday. The bird with the largest brain in the Anthropocene was quite intelligent - smart enough to solve puzzles, have a complex social structure, and predict weather patterns. But despite the huge brain, it had no concept of an apex predator, so sailors could grab one and hold it upside down and club all of the birds that ran to help their squawking friend. Because their instincts couldn't cope with meeting murder apes, the dodo bird got an undeserved reputation for being stupid and obsolete.
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Oct 2, 2021 14:26
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Technology will magically save us in a few years is what people have been repeating my entire life. I believed this completely, I worked in tech for decades and got an advanced degree in the techiest of techs. It has all been bullshit, the technology is used to enrich a clique who adopts early, then they try to monopolize whatever the new tech is. There is very little innovation or progress happening anymore, almost all business is now just reinforcing the walls and moat around your monopoly while accelerating stock buybacks. It's the inverse of innovation. Pryor on Fire has issued a correction as of 14:33 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Oct 2, 2021 14:30
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Rapacity posted:I care less about the “domes” or whatever weird techno fantasies you have than I care about the fact that our natural world is already immeasurably poorer than it was even when I was born less than 50 years ago. Millions of years of diversity and interdependence crushed into the polluted dirt. I'm sorry these dumb people have upset you. Come, come let us rejoice and forget. Yea, join us here and sing: lol. Lmao
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Oct 2, 2021 14:32
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Stereotype posted:haha owned. get wrecked earth Look we deserve our fate. Sweet guinea pigs and capybaras deserve a planet without us and it completely sucks that we're taking them all out in our death throes
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Oct 2, 2021 14:36
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https://twitter.com/flclimatecenter/status/1444298079692378113?s=12 Florida stinks. https://twitter.com/christophlyon/status/1444291124034772996?s=21 I don't see any domes in this video but there are some other ridiculous tech solutions in there. I'll never stop laughing at the fact that all the major climate projections stop at 2100 and treating that like it's the distant future. https://youtu.be/kmzpdd4pWvM
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Oct 2, 2021 15:03
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Complications posted:There'll probably be enough phosphate on the market for the first world to fertilize its number at the expense of definitely nobody important unless other governments commit Blasphemy Against the Free Market for some completely Most of the world's potash gets exported by Camada and comes from Saskatchewan. Many potash mines in Saskatchewan are now owned by Chinese companies. So again this is a great opportunity to lol and lmao
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Oct 2, 2021 15:16
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Killin_Like_Bronson posted:Most of the world's potash gets exported by Camada and comes from Saskatchewan. Many potash mines in Saskatchewan are now owned by Chinese companies. So again this is a great opportunity to lol and lmao 
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Oct 2, 2021 15:20
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Pro-click channel if you want to have a laugh get stuck in your throat and feel blinding white rage build up inside of you at the same time*. * being aussie not required.
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Oct 2, 2021 15:30
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No no no, this will be the set of climate targets we don't miss. I triple pinky promise swear this time. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1444308964255096836?s=20 *takes private jet to birthday party
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Oct 2, 2021 15:35
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Pryor on Fire posted:Technology will magically save us in a few years is what people have been repeating my entire life. I believed this completely, I worked in tech for decades and got an advanced degree in the techiest of techs. I don’t know how some people lived through 1980 to 2000 and 2000 to 2020, and still think both these gaps represent ever growing tech progress. The last twenty years feels like such stagnation. Maybe it’s just my anecdotal observation, I Dunno.
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Oct 2, 2021 15:36
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Privatization stopped technology. You can't progress technologically funding exclusively consumer facing products or otherwise products required to produce a profit.
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Oct 2, 2021 15:39
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Pryor on Fire posted:No no no, this will be the set of climate targets we don't miss. I triple pinky promise swear this time. Could have sworn the decisive decade was 20 years ago if we wanted a snowball's chance in California's wildfires to survive. Ah well. You die, you learn.
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Oct 2, 2021 15:46
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Popoto posted:I don’t know how some people lived through 1980 to 2000 and 2000 to 2020, and still think both these gaps represent ever growing tech progress. The last twenty years feels like such stagnation. Maybe it’s just my anecdotal observation, I Dunno. You are correct, back in like 1990 no company would come out and say something like We are committed to returning 100% of free cash flow back to investors via stock buybacks and dividends, there will be no increases to expenses or additional R&D spending in perpetuity. But that's exactly what Texas Instruments has been telling investors for years now, it's just a race to keep up on stock buybacks with everyone else. TI isn't alone, half the companies in the S&P have given up on R&D completely, which would have been inconceivable 40 years go.
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Oct 2, 2021 15:49
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mcbexx posted:Pro-click channel if you want to have a laugh get stuck in your throat and feel blinding white rage build up inside of you at the same time*. Pairs well that way with the Australian cartoon First Dog on the Moon. Wish someone would draw the Canadian equivalent featuring tar sands, residential schools, and endless corrupt government.
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Oct 2, 2021 16:11
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Rapacity posted:I care less about the “domes” or whatever weird techno fantasies you have than I care about the fact that our natural world is already immeasurably poorer than it was even when I was born less than 50 years ago. Millions of years of diversity and interdependence crushed into the polluted dirt. some times i think about the Permian–Triassic extinction event and shed a single tear. then i think of Gaia and realize she doesnt give a single gently caress Rutibex has issued a correction as of 16:37 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Oct 2, 2021 16:29
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Serf posted:lotta people think that they can science their way into replicating enough of earth's biosphere but smaller and they're totally wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u3_nKWMj9I
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Oct 2, 2021 17:04
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Rutibex posted:the earth won't be unlivable venus scenario no matter what. technology will save all of the privileged people quite easily. the rich will outlive anyone in a doomsday scenario Thing is human technology isn't magic and eventually you run out of something. The more money and time you have to prepare the longer you would last but all they are doing is buying themselves time. They aren't creating permanent arks that carry on Richness throughout a dead earth. Acid rain that nerds can still sit around and whine about how it doesn't meet the same metrics as venus but harsh enough to unexpectedly erode critical infrastructure? Better hope you have literally everything you need inside that dome to solve this problem and any others, forever, permanently. I'd say Elon's Dream Bunker Society backed by his wealth and a decade or two to prepare might last more than a few decades if everything went right. You still use your last air exchanger motherboard or make your last air exchanger motherboard when you run out of one of the raw materials for your miracle factory that produces everything. Rectal Death Adept has issued a correction as of 17:36 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Oct 2, 2021 17:33
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Mayor Dave posted:Donziger got 6 months in real jail for contempt of court lmfao, guess it doesn't pay to win a lawsuit against Chevron incredible, textbook fascism done blatantly right in our own country lmao corporate prosecutor, corporate judge, zero impartiality, and a 6 month jail sentence for a misdemeanor when he's already been in house arrest for 2 years. and the previous record sentence for the charge was like 30 days house arrest or something 
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Oct 2, 2021 17:36
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Popoto posted:I don’t know how some people lived through 1980 to 2000 and 2000 to 2020, and still think both these gaps represent ever growing tech progress. The last twenty years feels like such stagnation. Maybe it’s just my anecdotal observation, I Dunno. It's because we're letting companies define innovation for us. Computers and the internet (at least in concept) were legitimately huge innovations, but tiny computers that give you access to the internet all the time are basically just vehicles for more ads and consumption.
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Oct 2, 2021 17:44
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Rectal Death Adept posted:the rich will outlive anyone in a doomsday scenario oh yeah the "rich people in jars" will only last 50 years tops. just long enough that no one who is responsible for this situation will experience any consequences in their lifetime
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Oct 2, 2021 17:49
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im curious how far they could actually get under ideal circumstances with today's technology
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Oct 2, 2021 17:52
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I kinda hope the ultra-mega-rich *do* plan to try and go with Elonsyium, Imagining them dying of multiple cancers all at once is  .
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Oct 2, 2021 17:55
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Rectal Death Adept posted:im curious how far they could actually get under ideal circumstances with today's technology loving nowhere, that's the whole point of this fable we're living. Ask anyone into aquariums about how much harder proportionally it is to keep smaller tanks stable, then extrapolate. We couldn't keep a planet-sized dome that came with cool see-thru protective layers and huge thermal stabilizers running, what makes anyone think we have the talents to run smaller domes?
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Oct 2, 2021 18:08
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Serf posted:lotta people think that they can science their way into replicating enough of earth's biosphere but smaller and they're totally wrong This is currently the best closed ecosystem that I am aware of. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es6DDuMmhAM The rich might survive, but they'd be reduced to licking the condensation off of the walls.
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Oct 2, 2021 18:13
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This idea that the rich will survive and rule the world from their uber-Domes™ is pretty hilarious and more techno babble thinking. The rich already DO own and run the world and under their stewardship its going to hell. However, they're only rich as long as money holds any meaning so they're desperately trying to keep the status quo for as long as possible. Domes? lmao
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Oct 2, 2021 18:34
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The rich mostly aren't preparing for total supply chain breakdowns and they probably couldn't anyway. Elonsium might become a thing, but it's not going to happen in secret and it'd be way obvious for a long time that oh the rich are building giant apocalyptic dome cities.
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Oct 2, 2021 18:36
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"Hello I would like to purchase 100 years worth of grain for 10000 people"
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Oct 2, 2021 18:41
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They're going to strip-mine Greenland down to its foundation over the next couple decades https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1443946771760168994 https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1443946784590635011 Just one resource war to occur among hundreds more, simultaneously.
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Oct 2, 2021 19:02
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Rapacity posted:This idea that the rich will survive and rule the world from their uber-Domes™ is pretty hilarious and more techno babble thinking. The rich already DO own and run the world and under their stewardship its going to hell. However, they're only rich as long as money holds any meaning so they're desperately trying to keep the status quo for as long as possible. isopods can live in a 1 gallon jug and they are about 1cm long. a rich person is about 170cm long so they will require at least a 170 gallon jug to survive such a jug can be obtained for $525.38 https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=29845
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Oct 2, 2021 19:07
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dunno why everyone is so fixated on domes and bein real mad about them, maybe it's those banner ads but it's true rich people could live in bunkers with hydroponics and supplies for more than zero years and trying to figure out how long that might be isn't an endorsement of elonsyium
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Oct 2, 2021 19:10
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Chamale posted:I read something I found upsetting yesterday. The bird with the largest brain in the Anthropocene was quite intelligent - smart enough to solve puzzles, have a complex social structure, and predict weather patterns. But despite the huge brain, it had no concept of an apex predator, so sailors could grab one and hold it upside down and club all of the birds that ran to help their squawking friend. Because their instincts couldn't cope with meeting murder apes, the dodo bird got an undeserved reputation for being stupid and obsolete. thanks for sharing! wait the crack isn’t happening I’m just thinking about this sad and horrible thing make it stop make it stop
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Oct 2, 2021 19:29
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Rectal Death Adept posted:dunno why everyone is so fixated on domes and bein real mad about them, maybe it's those banner ads The only functional difference between a doomsday dome and a doomsday bunker is how seriously one takes the subject. If the surface isn't literally toxic to human life I imagine you could live in a well constructed bunker indefinitely if you can somehow keep up with repairs and avoid devolving into a fallout vault like social breakdown. nomad2020 has issued a correction as of 19:49 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Oct 2, 2021 19:32
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Mayor Dave posted:they're going to take away your whip its Planet to provide more natural lmaos
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Oct 2, 2021 19:39
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I kinda hope the ultra-mega-rich *do* plan to try and go with Elonsyium, Imagining them dying of multiple cancers all at once is honestly since they're kind of already obviously unwell emotionally the trauma of being locked up with no one to lord their superiority over besides their kill-switched/heart-plugged bodyguards and servants and being overmedicated for such to begin with chances of self-inflicted bullet cancer seem high when it all finally sinks in actually the more I think about it the more House Harkonnen the elite survivors of a dead planet seem. what would motivate them to keep living?
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Oct 2, 2021 19:45
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Popoto posted:I don’t know how some people lived through 1980 to 2000 and 2000 to 2020, and still think both these gaps represent ever growing tech progress. The last twenty years feels like such stagnation. Maybe it’s just my anecdotal observation, I Dunno. huge strides have been made in all sorts of areas just because your current iphone looks similar to your old iphone doesnt mean anything (to be clear i am in no way saying this is the solution to climate change) mediaphage has issued a correction as of 19:48 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Oct 2, 2021 19:46
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me and the gang getting ready to poo poo in some dome vents
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Oct 2, 2021 20:01
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starkebn posted:It doesn't seem that bad yet, I saw some skinks while walking to get a coffee this morning. We don’t say that anymore, grandma
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Oct 2, 2021 20:05
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IAMKOREA posted:Planet of the Humans is definitely on my to watch list after going to its Wikipedia page. what i got out of this film was that renewables are in no way currently in a state where they need to be and that sucks because it's true. organizations / papers who criticize the film for climate denialism are pretty much exactly who are being criticized in the film lol
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Oct 2, 2021 20:11
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blatman posted:me and the gang getting ready to poo poo in some dome vents we should start a religion that will relentlessly search the world for ventilation shafts and poop in them until they are full. Make a whole big thing of it. Teach our elonsyium unworthy descendants that they can plug up the holes to hell and will be greatly rewarded for doing so.
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Oct 2, 2021 20:13
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