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MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

Bula Vinaka posted:

Script seems to be lots of different people changing things. It's like they couldn't even decide on a main character, so they put two of them in (Jack / Frank). And there's lots of parts that seem like someone such as the production designer saying to the producer or director, "that looks like crap, change it to this," and they do, without any regard to what it does to the coherency of the story.

I'm not sure this movie "could" have been great, but it probably could have been a lot better than what was produced.

This movie had all the makings of a bad story, alas,

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Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem

Bula Vinaka posted:

it probably could have been a lot better than what was produced.

incredibly low bar to clear

Mr.Chill
Aug 29, 2006
holli could but didn't.

IBroughttheFunk
Sep 28, 2012

Das Boo posted:

I'm sure his murdered wife has some thoughts on this.

Actually, as far as I can understand it, he's repeating his wife murder plot. Banged a lady, brought her home, realized she wants to bang other dudes, better kill her.

I have been following this thread since the start and I have previously seen the movie, and completely forgot that this was a detail from the story. Though to be far, so did the movie itself.

GetDunked
Dec 16, 2011

respectfully
This thread has collectively put more time into thinking about the Cool World than the writers did, probably by like page 20, and that's wonderful.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

IBroughttheFunk posted:

I have been following this thread since the start and I have previously seen the movie, and completely forgot that this was a detail from the story. Though to be far, so did the movie itself.

He didn’t murder his wife he murdered the guy she was in bed with.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
Its still a bold move to make the pro...main? Character? a guy who murdered someone out of jealousy, and then have that not play a part in the movie at all. The "its his destiny to become a hero" thing is even weirder given we've never seen a lick of remorse/guilt/desire to be good from Jack

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
Jack, couldn't you have used your giant stretchy doodle hands to catch the plummeting Brad Pitt and save him from death before Plasticman-ing your way up the building? No? Didn't want to? Okay, then.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here
Never seen this movie but I have to believe Brad Pitt gets cool worlded back to life. Maybe doctor baby or somthing?? Maybe Jack uses his powers to Lazarus the mf out of Brad>? Maybe that one teen from across the street like nudges him with her foot and he's actually not dead just really really injured????

Sourdough Sam
May 2, 2010

:dukedog:

Nigmaetcetera posted:

He didn’t murder his wife he murdered the guy she was in bed with.

I'm thinking he killed the personality that killed his wife after he killed his wife.

Sourdough Sam
May 2, 2010

:dukedog:
This movie could have been about Jack literally re-animating his dead wife, who would be played by Kim Basinger in flashbacks but she wreaks cartoon havoc in the real world like some kinda Pet Sematary thing or Frankenstein and has to be hunted down.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem

Sourdough Sam posted:

This movie could have been about Jack literally re-animating his dead wife, who would be played by Kim Basinger in flashbacks but she wreaks cartoon havoc in the real world like some kinda Pet Sematary thing or Frankenstein and has to be hunted down.

I would totally watch that

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


It's rare to see a movie that gets absolutely nothing right, interesting in a way, really

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

barbecue at the folks posted:

It's rare to see a movie that gets absolutely nothing right, interesting in a way, really

Found the home movies I see

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
this movie belongs in a museum that exhibits things that are failures but in really spectacular interesting ways

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Yes, yes, I too want a copy of cool world for my home.

Ventral EggSac
Dec 3, 2019

Jack is not only this journey of a hero guy kind of that also is a real life murderer that went to jail but the god and creator of the cool world, who fucks one of his creations and then doesn't know dick about poo poo about how it all works for some reason

Prof. Crocodile
Jun 27, 2020

Ventral EggSac posted:

Jack is not only this journey of a hero guy kind of that also is a real life murderer that went to jail but the god and creator of the cool world, who fucks one of his creations and then doesn't know dick about poo poo about how it all works for some reason

a tale as old as time, really. right out of joseph campbell.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Ventral EggSac posted:

Jack is not only this journey of a hero guy kind of that also is a real life murderer that went to jail but the god and creator of the cool world, who fucks one of his creations and then doesn't know dick about poo poo about how it all works for some reason

Perhaps the same can be said of all religions

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Even when I was 12 or 13 and had first watched Cool World I wondered why having long arms was Jack's 'destiny'. There was nothing in the movie to even imply that Jack was important in any way.

mahershalalhashbaz
Jul 22, 2021

the moment had arrived. holli would had reached the spike of power.





she plucked out its heart, which was phallic in shape and shone with a brilliant light.



as holli would basked in the spike's radiance, pseudo-solid cartoon matter began to stream from the hole she'd made in the fabric of reality.





the matter gushed forth in nightmarish teratomas of teeth and giblets. as if the cool world was trying to form doodles from raw material but failing terribly, tortured humanoid features leered and grimaced in the ropes of twisting flesh and the quagmire twitched with semi-formed limbs.





ghostly faces poured skyward, plumes of empty eyes and mouths and sperm-like monsters swallowing and regurgitating each other endlessly.







in the cool world graveyards, the spirits of the dead were wrenched from their tombs and flung into the atmosphere.





blood-red skulls rolled and undulated in the void, their shapes liquefying - now man, now beast, now weird machine. tongues and jaws and unreadable appendages melted into spasming fleshy sculptures.





ghosts looped through the skies as the mass of screaming viscera bubbled down the walls of the union plaza hotel.



cackling doodles rocketed above the glitter of las vegas. they had no coherent form anymore - they were just endless cords of flesh that sprouted eyes and hands and grinning faces at random.







holli would stood triumphant atop her tower of lunatic meat, restored to the form of rotoscoped jenine jennings.

Ventral EggSac
Dec 3, 2019

Tower of Lunatic Meat is a great username.

Looks like the big alien from Lilo and Stitch behind her

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Down below the people of Las Vegas looked at the sky and shrugged at the funky looking cheap fireworks that lovely casino was setting off.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here
Cartoon body horror? Sure, why not.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Wow it's like a better version of Paprika

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
theres at least one extremely nws screencap in there lol

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
The spike of power makes doodles into permanent noids by... pulling doodle souls into the real world? I guess? Oh, but it only works if you're not a virgin. Otherwise it just kills you.

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

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I'll have what she's having :smug:

Ograbme
Jul 26, 2003

D--n it, how he nicks 'em
whos vegas vinnie
whats the spike

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
It's clearly an incandescent penis that spurts out cartoon body horror

welfarestateofmind
Apr 11, 2020



"You are a violent and irrepressible miracle. The vacuum of cosmos and the stars burning in it are afraid of you. Given enough time you would wipe us all out and replace us with nothing -- just by accident."
this is the movie I wish this was to start with. give me the cartoon horror.

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

I like the random cartoon rear end

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Ograbme posted:

whos vegas vinnie
whats the spike

"Vegas Vinnie" has got to be Dr. Baby, right?

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
I'm pretty sure a bunch of that is just covers of 80s metal albums being unleashed.

Prof. Crocodile
Jun 27, 2020

i have a feeling that vegas vinnie is just another throwaway detail in the chaotic orgy of half-formed ideas that is the cool world.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

The Moon Monster posted:

"Vegas Vinnie" has got to be Dr. Baby, right?

lol yes

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Vegas Vinnie is Brad Pitt's ma, Vienna. She didn't really die, and the disappearence of her son from the scene sent her crazy and she wound up a criminal who worked her way to the top and is now a 90 year old casino owner.

Bored
Jul 26, 2007

Dude, ix-nay on the oice-vay.

BrigadierSensible posted:

When I first saw this film, many years ago, I didn't think that Jennifer and Isabella were mother/daughter. I thought they were lesbian partners.

I don't know why I thought that, and reading this thread is bringing up vague memories of watching the film, so having it explicitly explained that they are mother and daughter is a new wrinkle to me.


That makes more sense than a 20-30 something happily living with her youngish mother. And that mother being cool hanging out with the pervert and her daughter.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
Im really wondering if jennifer's character is going to matter at all in the end, and if she does how? (jennifers the daughter right?)

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Prof. Crocodile
Jun 27, 2020

Bismuth posted:

Im really wondering if jennifer's character is going to matter at all in the end, and if she does how? (jennifers the daughter right?)

By the process of elimination she must be Vegas vinnie

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