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I do love that Sharlayan was essentially founded by FFXIV Noah*. Really excited to learn more about that place. *Not the character named "Noah", though, he's the guy who was running the IVth Garlean legion. E: wow I completely misrembered who Noah was lmao Begemot fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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No you were right, there are two noahs, the allagan scientist currently in a body timeshare with an unfortunate catgirl, and the eternally offscreen ivalice/bozja antagonist noah van gabranth. the allag-ivalice-garlemald connection probably means the latter was named after the former, either directly or in a distant culture-hero-name way, even as in a meta-sense we know he was named after ff12 gabranth Mister Olympus fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Pigbuster posted:What makes Sephiroth interesting to me is that in a way he’s a deconstruction of the megalomaniacal villain trope; he gets his big call to villainy but then, before he can really get started, he gets unexpectedly killed by a total nobody. And sure, his alien mom keeps puppeting his reincarnated body around after that but it’s the trauma he left on Cloud that drives the emotional story beats. Cloud is what makes Sephiroth work. Don't forget that Sephiroth spends the rest of the story (and Advent Children) being extremely Not Mad about Cloud killing him. Very, very, Not Mad, promise.
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Gearhead posted:Then again, Forchenault may be deliberately doing EXACTLY what he hopes will invite a visit from the Minister of Enthusiastic Walks... This is my bet too. That Forchenault has an idea of what's really going on and how bad things really are. But he can't openly invite the Scions in and request aid in cleaning house. So, if he goes to Gridania personally, makes this big deal about disowning the twins and leaves while the twins are still in shock about it, that's going to get the WoL's attention. (G'raha comments on how out of character this seems for Forchenault, iirc.) Then later, when we show up and start busting heads, he can make his protests and do the 'I told them Sharlayan wanted no part of this, and they snuck in anyway!' and keep his hands clean to the rest of the Forum. He's Louisoix's son and Alphinaud's dad. He's an rear end in a top hat, but he's not stupid. Edit: Going on in the 'The plans that we're so confident in as our backup have a much bigger chance of failure than we want to admit.' not going on outside sharlayan.
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Twibbit posted:Holding the Magitech Camera Krile is a conjurer, it's probably just a healer staff. The scions already have a black mage-y character, two if you count DPS G'raha, so if she becomes a Trust I could see it as a white mage-type.
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Countblanc posted:Krile is a conjurer, it's probably just a healer staff. The scions already have a black mage-y character, two if you count DPS G'raha, so if she becomes a Trust I could see it as a white mage-type. Do not want to level a 3rd healer in trusts. Krile go tank.
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Whatever Forchenault is trying, my bet is that it's going to explode spectacularly in his face. It's no accident that right before we meet him, Alphinaud is doing a careful self-assessment of why the Crystal Braves failed.
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SirPhoebos posted:Whatever Forchenault is trying, my bet is that it's going to explode spectacularly in his face. It's no accident that right before we meet him, Alphinaud is doing a careful self-assessment of why the Crystal Braves failed. It's quite possible that the writers are showing their work on Alphinaud's character development in advance of him having to confront his father on an ideological level. This would be extremely transgressive in a Japanese story.
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Mister Olympus posted:the allagan scientist currently in a body timeshare with an unfortunate catgirl Oh is that her deal I never got enough goop for her to see that e: oh nvm I just forgot the intro to that quest Zomborgon fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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https://twitter.com/FF_XIV_EN/status/1460155621840326659?s=20
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It really is quite clever, the design language they're going for here with Zenos. He's no longer wearing the powered armor because that's what Garleans used to bridge the gap in combat ability with those who use Magic. Now that Zenos has Magic of his own, he no longer needs the suit.
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Late for it but I always liked the theory that Hydalyn does a sort of end-run around tempering. The message she has on broadcast for everyone who gets the echo is: “Hear, Feel, Think.” If that exposure is supposed to temper you, then what it commands you to do is… empathetically listen to others then make your own decisions. And maybe that makes a difference if you were not predisposed to listening to people… but it does leave judgement up to the individual. So maybe the WoL is tempered, this “blessing of light,” but it explicitly allows us to follow our own judgements.
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zenos' scythe is tailor made to be sold on the mogstation next year for five dollars
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The artificial bulk of the royal armor is gone, revealing the grim truth that deep down we knew all along: Zenos always had a narrow rear end e^^ lol
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Dwesa posted:who is this buttless boy The Void extracts a heavy price
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Nah, we just haven't seen him from the back yet, there's still a chance for a delicious booty. He's gotta be at least Estinien class rear end and thigh, what with being a maiming job. No way he'd be able to wear all that maiming gear unless he has legs like a Dragoon to fill it out.
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Mister Olympus posted:No you were right, there are two noahs, the allagan scientist currently in a body timeshare with an unfortunate catgirl, and the eternally offscreen ivalice/bozja antagonist noah van gabranth. Ahhh okay. I looked up "FFXIV Noah" to make sure I was remembering correctly and it only gave me the Ivalice guy. The Allagan Noah is a reference to FFIII Noah, who the FFXII Noah is probably also a reference to. This is what happens when you try to make a love letter to a series that is already very self-referential, we're lucky we don't have four or five Cids running around.
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Vitamean posted:zenos' scythe is tailor made to be sold on the mogstation next year for five dollars And I will get it to use as a trophy.
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Vitamean posted:zenos' scythe is tailor made to be sold on the mogstation next year for five dollars Now you can "let this moment last forever", for $9.98!
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Look, before we get that scythe I want his golf bag from Stormblood. Including drawing different swords for different attacks please.
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Dwesa posted:who is this buttless boy the term is assless chap
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FAUXTON posted:the term is assless chap
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FAUXTON posted:the term is assless chap
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SirPhoebos posted:Whatever Forchenault is trying, my bet is that it's going to explode spectacularly in his face. It's no accident that right before we meet him, Alphinaud is doing a careful self-assessment of why the Crystal Braves failed. “If the final days were here, we would know it” leads me to believe they are hiding some knowledge about the ancients. Nobody outside the scions and Ascians should even know about what happened before the sundering. There’s a pet theory out there that the Sharlayans have prophecy/predictions of the calamity and that Graha Tias Excellent Adventure hosed up the “proper” timeline.
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mightygerm posted:“If the final days were here, we would know it” leads me to believe they are hiding some knowledge about the ancients. Nobody outside the scions and Ascians should even know about what happened before the sundering. considering by all accounts sharlayan got hosed as hosed in the eighth umbral calamity as much as everyone else that seems unlikely to me
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How global was the 7th Calamity? It seems like most of Bahamut's damage was to Eorzea, is that really enough chaos to absorb an entire alternate dimensional planet?
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Given that the Sharlayans are building Labyrinthos, a massive underground vault to Of course, they don't know that all the unsundered Ascians are dead and Fandanny isn't exactly keen on helping anyone.
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Aren't the Final Days happening supposed to be Fandaniel's doing now that the unsundered are gone, though?
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Kazy posted:How global was the 7th Calamity? It seems like most of Bahamut's damage was to Eorzea, is that really enough chaos to absorb an entire alternate dimensional planet? I imagine letting Bahamut get free was enough to get the aether mojo flowing, but the actual damage was limited thanks to Louisoix doing the Goku headbutt through Bahamut's torso.
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Kazy posted:How global was the 7th Calamity? It seems like most of Bahamut's damage was to Eorzea, is that really enough chaos to absorb an entire alternate dimensional planet? Louisoux shoved all the aether he gathered trying to summon The Twelve back into the star after he became Phoenix and beat up Bahamut. This is why everything was pretty ok after only five years instead of the thousands that Umbral eras normally last. As far as the rejoining is concerned, the only thing that matters is the initial burst, the devastation is just the after affect of bursting one type of aether in massive quantities. Dalamud hitting Hydaelyn and unleashing Bahamut did make enough Dark aether to cause a rejoicing, it’s just that it was rebalanced with every other type pretty much instantly instead of after thousands of years.
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It should be noted that the Seventh was an unaspected Calamity (because Bahamut) - it was Astral aligned, but as we now know Astral and Umbral and their relation to the elements is a matter of perspective more than anything
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Rosalind posted:Given that the Sharlayans are building Labyrinthos, a massive underground vault to
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I wonder if maybe they know the next calamity is due now, but don't know that it's been cancelled and replaced by the Final Days.
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It could just be arrogance on the Sharlayan's part. Like, maybe they just can't imagine a scenario where something like the End Times is coming without them knowing about it first.
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Ok, I started the game in the late summer and wrapped up the MSQ through Shadowbringers. I've not done much sidequest stuff beyond the Coils of Bahamut. The only major question I have with this game, the only plot thing which makes no sense to me comes from the end of ARR through early Heavensward. Teledji plans to assassinate the sultana and frame the Scions. Lolorito catches on, prevents the assassination but still...frames the Scions for everything. Then later he just says "lol just kidding, we're cool." I don't understand what framing us then clearing your name does for him, other than maybe essentially forcing Raubahn's compliance since otherwise he'll put Raubahn away for murdering Teledji. Lolorito does continue funding Ilberd's ambitions to stir up war in Ala Mhigo so maybe it's just about money, but this is the one part of the game where I feel the writing is...weak? Wishy-washy? or was there something in some side content I missed that goes more into Lolorito's thinking?
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Skypie posted:Ok, I started the game in the late summer and wrapped up the MSQ through Shadowbringers. I've not done much sidequest stuff beyond the Coils of Bahamut. The only major question I have with this game, the only plot thing which makes no sense to me comes from the end of ARR through early Heavensward. Basically Lolorito is scheming and desires money/power, but values the city's stability as a necessary part of that. The Sultana's abdication would have destabilized the city (specifically his power within it when the dust settled), but Teledji's attempt at a coup would have been just as bad if not worse. Lolorito foiled the assassination in a way that undermined the coup but also at least gave pause to Nanamo's abdication, giving him the leverage to "convince" her otherwise. There is some lore back in 1.0 and reading between the lines that this isn't the first time Lolorito has been cleaning up Taledji's messes. If I remember right the 1.0 leader of one of the guilds was murdered during the ARR time skip due to such politics and Lolorito supported the guy's son.
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Lolorito is an evil son of a bitch, but he's not wrong. Stepping in to blunt the whole thing, take advantage of the situation, and allowing Teledji to finally win a Darwin Award probably saved Eorzea from an infestation of entirely too many wide-eyed idealists in one place at one time.
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Rosalind posted:Given that the Sharlayans are building Labyrinthos, a massive underground vault to The Final Days are, as far as we know, A) something Fandaniel is doing on his own that is fundamentally different than anything the Unsundered would have done or wanted and B) something Sharlayan claims is not happening at all. Fourchenalt says this second one in 5.55 that this talk of Final Days is nonsense. He could be lying but I think they just haven't gotten the full message of just how off the rails Fandaniel is planning to go.
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