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Maerlyn posted:##vote binus This is amusing for multiple reasons
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Toalpaz posted:I 100% know if hum flips scum rb, that bif is caught SK. Track claim makes sense only if hum thinks killing so is super important for some reason. Oooh, that's an interesting thought. I can kinda see it. More than having 2 trackers anyway.
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Nov 17, 2021 20:49
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Maerlyn posted:##vote binus U wot
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Nov 17, 2021 20:50
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A couple other people still haven't checked in so I'll prolly wait for that then vote Hum later, but I still do not get what the hell he was supposed to gain by this, going all in just to get me lunched. Unless he's a luncher or something - Oh poo poo, Hum are you Jason?
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Nov 17, 2021 20:52
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Oh yeah he did claim that already I just ignored it cause it was probably fake lol I'm Freddy Kruger but I don't have any condition to get Jason lunched, I don't even know poo poo about horror movies I just had "Freddy vs Jason" pop into my head when I wondered who the hell would want to be an executioner on me
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Nov 17, 2021 20:55
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b-minus1 posted:This is amusing for multiple reasons Such as?
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Nov 17, 2021 20:55
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lol Merk. Okay so reading the end of day I missed I have reflected and think I was probably wrong about Bif. I am thinking Bif’s “manufactured case” (my words) on me could just be her feeling she has a meta read and bringing whatever she can find to case me to support that ~feel~. Her motivation for the case on me was the prime reason I went for her yesterday. However that doesn’t explain why yami has gone in so hard to defend her from the get go. Yami cannot know bifs alignment yet is acting like he does. That concerns me. No one else yesterday could see what yami was seeing. I feel confident in saying they were alone in this surety of bifs towniness because her posting to date had not given anyone that surety. So I’d like to solve the yami problem, but I’ve also yet to catch up.
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Nov 17, 2021 21:11
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also it’ll take a little while lol, because I’m phone posting so I don’t see yami yelling “no you!” on preview and feel compelled to respond to it.
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Nov 17, 2021 21:16
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b-minus1 posted:I like meen deadmeat and beet for scum b-minus1 posted:Though Tbh it i do find it a little odd that merk is calling meen the “better case” when I didn’t actually case him. I just pointed out it looked like he was camouflaging his vote Distancing from merk. b-minus1 posted:Votecount for Day 2 Zero attempt to make any alignment calls here or push at all - why? b-minus1 posted:Sorry for being mia near eod yesterday. Need to look over the previous few pages but I think meen should die today The fact that he wants to revisit the same case (that merk was on no less) says a lot instead of analysing new information. FWIW I haven't read meens posts yet so I could be making myself look foolish. I could come back to Hum because there's a glaring discrepancy with tracking results. Hum might be the SK but I'll think about that further. There's just something odd going on that I can't put my finger on.
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Nov 17, 2021 21:17
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hambeet posted:lol Merk. No you. More seriously, that sure is a lot of words to work backwards to "yami scum", completely and conveniently ignoring that both bif and I were what got the merk push rolling in the first place.
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Nov 17, 2021 21:22
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Yami Fenrir posted:No you. Well I'd say it was Toal really. But yeah not feeling better about Beet, cause he could have easily thought "Hm what if Bif really just thinks I'm scummy" like this at any point yesterday if he was actually worried about determining my alignment. Instead he went "Bif mentioned me she must now be destroyed"
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Nov 17, 2021 21:29
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And them Hum happily joined right in cause here's someone leading the charge for him, seriously guys I think Hum has to be a luncher for me
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Nov 17, 2021 21:30
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Bifauxnen posted:Well I'd say it was Toal really. But yeah not feeling better about Beet, cause he could have easily thought "Hm what if Bif really just thinks I'm scummy" like this at any point yesterday if he was actually worried about determining my alignment. Instead he went "Bif mentioned me she must now be destroyed" I meant vote wise, but you are correct.
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Nov 17, 2021 21:31
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Bifauxnen posted:Well I'd say it was Toal really. But yeah not feeling better about Beet, cause he could have easily thought "Hm what if Bif really just thinks I'm scummy" like this at any point yesterday if he was actually worried about determining my alignment. Instead he went "Bif mentioned me she must now be destroyed" But yeah that pretty much seems to be beets MO regarding me too. I dare say I think he's scummy, now I'm "a problem".
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Nov 17, 2021 21:34
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I find that wording pretty interesting actually. Beet didn't explicitly call me scum, or SK, or whatever. Just a 'problem'. If you think I'm scum, why did I push so hard and early on merk day 2? Do you really think that makes sense to you? Wouldn't I have tried to go after like... literally anyone else, even if it's not bif? If you think I'm SK, why not just say so? Are you afraid of being seen 3P hunting? Because I just don't follow your logic as seeing me scum, beet just seems to want me to be scum more than anything.
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Nov 17, 2021 21:40
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So I see sandwolf flipped, that leaves three people out of the four I highlighted yesterday that were on rfs vote. Bif, yami and meen. And then toal And then I. votefinder posted:
If I’m feeling better on Bif, which maybe I shouldn’t, but I doubt my reasoning on that is valid anymore, that leaves yami and meen. Yami was the first vote on Merk so unless they were bussing hard, which I don’t feel that vibes, yami probably also not scum. 3p/sk? Dunno. Toal has said that a few times but i can’t know at this stage. If this yami defending Bif thing is just some dumb meta mafia mates type thing then that’s lame. But enough about them. Anyway so for me that leaves meen on the rf vote. I’d have to reread meen, but from memory I don’t remember sticking out except for their absence yesterday. Anyway onto today, then a reread in between meetings.
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Nov 17, 2021 21:43
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Look on the bright side, Retro Futurist: you can't be accused of lurking anymore!
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I hope at least Beet has a cool reaction to me figuring this poo poo out Huuuuuuuum cmon did I figure it out
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Nov 17, 2021 21:43
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Mr. Humalong posted:Let’s just say I’ll be taking a real close look at deadmeat tonight This is your breadcrumb? Mr. Humalong posted:We should vote out merk today. It would be funny. I forgot about this, hum feels like a good vote again but still think binus is sus.
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Nov 17, 2021 21:45
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Oh no I saw posts! Bif my explanation on my case on you yesterday was quite clear. Are you being the caveman now? Here was the crux of it again: “White noise” and “hammer”. And a few posters commented positively to what I said so I wasn’t the only one. Don’t pretend I should have had an epiphany during the day when no new info was coming to light until end of day with merks obviously fake claim.
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Nov 17, 2021 21:51
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Toalp outed merk. Toalp is outing hum in a lie. Is there really anything else to consider right now? (also loving merk what the hell why!!! what on earth would you gain from that stupid gambit with toal? best case you get a town investigation that already looks like a godfather move because anyone volunteering for a cop investigation is fairly suspect).
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Nov 17, 2021 21:58
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Also that is a serious question. Was catching up on my phone at work and it was like 150 posts.
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Nov 17, 2021 21:58
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you can also consider me having a vote on hum but there is a lot of daytime left and he is pretty close to a hammer.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:02
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hambeet posted:Oh no I saw posts! Not an "epiphany", nice trumped up language there, just sounds like you never even stopped to consider for one moment ever, even me snarking at somebody you went welp, must mean scum
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Nov 17, 2021 22:07
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Voodoofly posted:Toalp outed merk. I wouldn't have my vote where it is right now if there were anything else I thought we had to discuss like there's poo poo we CAN talk about if people want but as you point out this is just shy of a cop claiming a scum result on somebody and having already been vetted the night before
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Nov 17, 2021 22:11
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Btw I'm seriously annoyed no one reacted to MY epiphany, cause Hum is probably just an executioner, neither scum or SK would have any incentive to false claim that hard and get themselves guaranteed lunched tomorrow after my flip. He claimed Jason and I am Freddy Krueger.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:11
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Bifauxnen posted:Btw I'm seriously annoyed no one reacted to MY epiphany, cause Hum is probably just an executioner, neither scum or SK would have any incentive to false claim that hard and get themselves guaranteed lunched tomorrow after my flip. I guess my answer is do I really care?
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Nov 17, 2021 22:12
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Voodoofly posted:I guess my answer is do I really care? You should care about lunching a scum instead yes
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Nov 17, 2021 22:13
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Let’s flip Bif. She’s not Freddy Krueger lol. She already knew my flavor when she made this post:Bifauxnen posted:A couple other people still haven't checked in so I'll prolly wait for that then vote Hum later, but I still do not get what the hell he was supposed to gain by this, going all in just to get me lunched. So we have someone fakeclaiming flavor and claiming a kill, then backpedaling with “oh I was just goofing don’t peer behind the curtain”
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Nov 17, 2021 22:15
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Do you think hum is town? Even if he is third party and you are town if both of you are alive at LYLO we lose.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:15
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Voodoofly posted:Do you think hum is town? Even if he is third party and you are town if both of you are alive at LYLO we lose. This. There is no point in risking it imo.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:17
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Voodoofly posted:Do you think hum is town? Even if he is third party and you are town if both of you are alive at LYLO we lose. I haven't really played in many if any games with an executioner role. But I thought it was just a 3P where they have to get one person lunched to win, and that is all. I am not an executioner btw. I am vanilla town.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:18
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I mean it is tempting to lunch Hum just for being annoying, leaning on calling me "the claimed killer" when that was obviously a gambit, but as I said, I am not an executioner.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:21
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Honestly the only thing I’m wondering is if it’s better to execute bif on the off chance that hum is an executioner and maybe leaves the game for fulfilling a win condition. It’s like a two for one execution. But that would require this all to be true and probably for hum to have volunteered the info because bringing it up now is probably too late
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Nov 17, 2021 22:22
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Bifauxnen posted:I haven't really played in many if any games with an executioner role. But I thought it was just a 3P where they have to get one person lunched to win, and that is all. I am not an executioner btw. I am vanilla town. Yeah usually but if you are alive on LYLO hum is voting you. If you are town we die.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:23
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Voodoofly posted:Honestly the only thing I’m wondering is if it’s better to execute bif on the off chance that hum is an executioner and maybe leaves the game for fulfilling a win condition. It’s like a two for one execution. Do you think bif is scum?
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Nov 17, 2021 22:23
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Voodoofly posted:Yeah usually but if you are alive on LYLO hum is voting you. If you are town we die. Ok that's a better point
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Nov 17, 2021 22:25
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Starting to believe Voodoo is the SK here 
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Nov 17, 2021 22:26
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Voodoofly posted:Honestly the only thing I’m wondering is if it’s better to execute bif on the off chance that hum is an executioner and maybe leaves the game for fulfilling a win condition. It’s like a two for one execution. This is a way worse point.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:26
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Maerlyn posted:Distancing from merk. Stay on this, btw. It’s a good case and something I noticed about him day 2 as well.
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Nov 17, 2021 22:28
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##unvote ##vote; bif I've convinced myself that bif is SK. I'll share the reasons here. Hum is scum role blocker, he was convinced he could fake claim tracker because he knew where bif was n1 and what bif did n2. He felt safe claiming to track bif n2 because he visited her and stopped the SK kill. Because he role blocked her, and stopped the kill, he was then confident on who bif visited n1. Using the information Hum had, the plausible visit on bif last night, AND coupled with the fact that scum team had no tracker and town watcher had already flipped; Hum felt confident he could claim tracker and 'catch' bif here for town cred and a fake claim. Bif claimed killer to gently caress with hum, but also because she felt certain humalong was scum who was also lying in his claim and she could shake him. We should kill bif first because there will be less deaths that way.
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