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In 2021, media has become all dads and daddy issues. I don't have a problem with that though, seems a natural wrinkle to add with the cast being older and more weathered live action, vs in anime where 25 is naturally old and world-weary.
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Brock Samson posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dm5Qz41W4g This is atrocious dialogue. Faye in particular seems like she's been written as an incredibly generic Whedon-esque tough girl.
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Nov 18, 2021 19:08
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Faye scene looks like a network sitcom. Spike and Jet scene looks like a CW show.
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Nov 18, 2021 19:38
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Can't wait for the Watch 2: space boogaloo
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Nov 18, 2021 21:10
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it doesn't really matter how good or bad it is--it shouldn't be watched because making live-action remakes of perfectly good animated properties is behavior that shouldn't be rewarded.
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Nov 18, 2021 21:15
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You can watch both too.
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Nov 18, 2021 21:20
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This is gonna be the Foundation thread all over again, isn’t it?
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Nov 19, 2021 00:30
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No, cause it's a Netflix show so the people who don't like it won't keep coming back week after week to complain about the same stuff over and over.
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Nov 19, 2021 00:40
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:No, cause it's a Netflix show so the people who don't like it won't keep coming back week after week to complain about the same stuff over and over. Where can I find your level of faith in the userbase of this site (and the internet in general)?
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Nov 19, 2021 00:50
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It's not fair to judge a show based on some 1 minute clip but it is concerning that they decided to share those specific clips and not anything else. Still holding out hope since the two trailers were solid.
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Nov 19, 2021 01:12
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https://twitter.com/KaelanRamos/status/1461411887074193416Mu Zeta posted:It's not fair to judge a show based on some 1 minute clip but it is concerning that they decided to share those specific clips and not anything else. Still holding out hope since the two trailers were solid. https://twitter.com/KaelanRamos/status/1461452588428234755
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Nov 19, 2021 03:40
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Always wanted to know if Jet likes bidets, changed my mind show of the year
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Nov 19, 2021 03:46
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that clip was honestly fun
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Nov 19, 2021 04:57
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:that clip was honestly fun
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Nov 19, 2021 05:13
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Soundtrack is out. https://open.spotify.com/album/539jKDvQomLMWGBEkjyTWX
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Nov 19, 2021 05:20
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:that clip was honestly fun Yeah, it was. The original show had lots of sitcom bickering, random weirdoes, silly interjections on TV interacting with the plot, and jokes that dragged out way too long. It wasn't all curling smoke and meaningful grunts as people reflected on the weight of their inescapable pasts. Here's the thing for me. I want the live-action show to be different than the anime. Even if it reprises the same plots, and especially if it reprises the same plots. I want weight and time shifted to different forms of character interaction based on the medium and cast dynamics. And I'm happy the show has updated its LGBT attitudes since the 1990s, just like it did with Faye's wardrobe. And I'm happy to extend that to other things. Even if the technology and setting looks and acts the same at a glance, since science fiction is always a window into modern society, I want that to more reflect thoughts and concerns of today's perspective than those of 20 years ago. If the writing feels like modern comedy-drama rather than 1990s, that stands to reason. The latest Word updates seem to crash a lot more. But at least they're better at reopening your documents right where you left them. I have the anime, I can watch it whenever I want, and I don't gain anything from "the same thing but performed by meat." I embrace change as long as it's fun on its own merits, and doesn't use the name while totally hiding from what the original was.
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Nov 19, 2021 05:32
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:that clip was honestly fun Qmass posted:yeah actually. I was prepared for the worst but that diner scene was enjoyable. Maybe the whole show is like that and abandons the deeper or darker or melancholic parts of bebop and at worst i'll just pretend someone copied the original and this is an unrelated show. Nothing can tarnish the original anime so I don't give a poo poo, long as its entertaining. ????? ??????????? ?????????????????????????????????????? please, have higher standards.
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Nov 19, 2021 05:33
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Killer robot posted:Yeah, it was. The original show had lots of sitcom bickering, random weirdoes, silly interjections on TV interacting with the plot, and jokes that dragged out way too long. It wasn't all curling smoke and meaningful grunts as people reflected on the weight of their inescapable pasts. I love “the same thing but performed by meat,” and I’m going to use it.
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Nov 19, 2021 05:33
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:that clip was honestly fun imagining the twitter poster ranting about how bebop has been despoiled by awkward, pointless dialogue about bell peppers with beef
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Nov 19, 2021 05:52
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It really can't be said enough that this show, good or bad, will not make the original not exist. Derivative work does not destroy the original, and it's going to be fine. This also doesn't exclude future efforts at the same thing, look at how many adaptations of Sherlock there are. Lowering my expectations of it being amazing based on the footage shown, but still looks watchable at least. Agree that the dialogue is missing the natural feel of the original, which is a shame cause the actors seem really well cast. tokin opposition posted:?????????????????????????????????????? mmm yes *swiggles wine*. These peasant swines who are enjoying something. Pshaw, the thought!
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Nov 19, 2021 07:03
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The World Inferno posted:It really can't be said enough that this show, good or bad, will not make the original not exist. Derivative work does not destroy the original, and it's going to be fine. This also doesn't exclude future efforts at the same thing, look at how many adaptations of Sherlock there are. enjoy your nutbags, swine
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Nov 19, 2021 07:27
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tokin opposition posted:enjoy your nutbags, swine ONE YEAR LATER posted:the people who don't like it won't keep coming back week after week to complain about the same stuff over and over. *Pulls out stopwatch* Aaaaaaand... Go!
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Nov 19, 2021 07:43
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Cowboy BeBad
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MikusR posted:Soundtrack is out. aww gently caress, dat slide guitar
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Nov 19, 2021 09:20
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more like cosplay bebop edit: the first rose flaskback was terrible and the first scene was bad because they wasted one of the coolest film intros ever from the bebop movie but the show still might be entertaining enough to watch I dunno - but I'm gonna pretend its not cowboy bebop and is just a netflix scifi show.
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Nov 19, 2021 09:42
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Really enjoyed the first episode, excellent visual effects, a few more chuckles than I expected, feels like a retelling of the anime more than a re-treading, yeah its good, John Cho is better Spike than my first impressions suggested
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Nov 19, 2021 09:54
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Big Shots are in!
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Nov 19, 2021 10:04
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the problem with this show is that I can't unsee cowboy bebop and it is distracting watching artless copies of scenes with all the poignancy torn out
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Nov 19, 2021 11:03
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I watched the first episode and it's exactly the kind of stylish camp I wanted. It cribs a lot from the anime but also does its own thing. I ain't mad. The complaints I've read remind me of when everyone bitched that The Witcher felt like a high-budget Xena, except that having a high-budget Xena based on The Witcher loving rules.
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Nov 19, 2021 11:18
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I'm gonna do it... I'm gonna watch the bad show
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Nov 19, 2021 11:20
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3 eps down; I'm liking it fine so far. There are spots of cringe dialogue but as I expected it's nowhere near as prominent as people were insinuating. I also don't mind the extended Spike/Vicious/Julia backstory, but that said Vicious is extremely goofy even factoring in the deliberate camp that's going on.
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Nov 19, 2021 11:25
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I'm 8 minutes into the first episode and I'm onboard.
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Nov 19, 2021 11:28
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theres no way im watching 10 hours of this poo poo. read the recap thats out already and lold my rear end off this thread is gonna be god tier. i can tell 
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Nov 19, 2021 11:35
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First episode was starting to drag and I realized this is an hour long show now. Not sure how I feel about that.
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Nov 19, 2021 11:54
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The dialogue in every trailer I've seen for this sounds like it was written by a guy chucked out of the Avengers writing room for being too cringe, I shall not be watching
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Liked the first episode a lot more than expected. So far the wacky dialogue isn't being used to undercut drama like in Marvel stuff... I'm not exactly LOLing at most of the jokes but they're mostly character- and relationship-building, just like in the anime. Surprised at how ripped Cho is, he's fitting the part just fine for me. I'm down to view this not as primarily a martial arts show; it's a lot like Dune, where you have all these other insane sci-fi requirements and it's just genuinely not feasible to also make it a top tier Kung Fu movie. Like, anime Spike is basically Better Than Bruce Lee, and I'm ok with them deciding to focus more on overall visuals along with fight scenes that heavily emphasize certain shots/moves at the expense of an overall believable (and insanely difficult) martial arts scene. Characters definitely seemed to teleport a lot, like there's a fair bit of cheating going on in terms of the physical space... but I'm just ok with it so far. I think my main concern is Faye. I absolutely get the need to tweak her, but the Thor 2 mentions planted a seed in my brain and now I can't stop feeling like her character has been turned into generic Kat Dennings Type Person. Down to see how it progresses but I found that to be a real problem that's very separate from "cringe Marvel jokes." Edit: also I like that they're not shying away at all from the Cowboy Bebop world being extremely brutal, people being accustomed to death and violence, etc... Some of the Marvel-ish dialogue actually works for me specifically because it's not being used to sanitize the violence but rather to draw attention to how weird these people's lives are. Martman fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:that clip was honestly fun If you liked that, you'll love this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNK4VKeoBM
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Qmass posted:more like cosplay bebop I mean, given where the movie's meant to be in the series continuity, it was kind of atypical for Spike to be so callous about innocent bystanders given his character development. Having it be at the start of the series make sense from that perspective. Having watched the first episode, I'm liking it so far.
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The United States posted:Here have some more brilliant dialogue Space Seinfeld
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Watched two episodes, loved it. Original Bebop was great, but this uses the longer runtime to hit slightly different vibes and imo to be more entertaining right from the start. I love the original series, but I didn't really start loving it until episode 5. This is cheesy dumb oldschool fun and Big Shot reminds me so much of lovely children's TV editing that I can't help but enjoy it. The worst parts are when they try to more directly ape the original, like Asimov's Red Eye fight scene. That and the complaints over the dull brown colour palette were dumb - they only did that for Tijuana, and it kinda made sense there. There's a larger variety of colour palettes in the show.
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