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Maerlyn posted:Is this not a real vote anymore? I am also a bit confused by the nature of this post? Why do you care?
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Hi. Haven’t caught up yet. Still around.
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Sandwolf posted:I am also a bit confused by the nature of this post? Why do you care? I started a post and forgot it on my PC (incoming) but Somber pinging me. I'm willing to hold off there though for now (I can see IA and Somb as scum perhaps).
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Nov 25, 2021 01:14
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OK let me see if I can make sense of this IA kerfuffle: Binus puts down a weird vote because Solus didn't high post like he said he would, Squiggley laughs, binus overreacts and votes Squiggley. IA and Merk hop on the Squiggley vote, Toal puts up a faint defense: Toalpaz posted:Isn't this a little hasty, turboing squiggles for a scum slip? Which I respond to - laughing at a vote for not high posting seems natural, binus just bites hard on nothing. I say I'm not joining a "gotcha" vote, Toal responds: Toalpaz posted:I agree with this, but I will reluctantly vote for Squiggles if Bif does. IA's gently caress up post (he seems like he means Solus but Toal is talking about Squiggles): Idle Amalgam posted:##unvote In retrospect now looks like a light bus? I didn't realize IA was speaking about the wrong player but I agreed with his point about Toal. Somber comes in and looks like he's trying to help IA pull up: Somberbrero posted:I'm gonna say you champing at the bit to get started is a town thing, but this feels overstated Idle Amalgam posted:Lol I thought we were voting solus for failing to get high and post. I just now realized I voted squiggly and not solus in that test. Hence mentioning the whole not getting high or getting too high bit in the vote on toal. Somberbrero posted:I thought that was confusing but, get this, I was high too, so I thought I was just mistaken and didn't take the time to read back through. IA voting himself when he feels caught is something I've seen him do as scum before, it's not a guarantee though but his argument that Toal is not scum because they were blocked does not make sense. Toal and IA feel scummy and I'd like to see one of them flip...part of me thinks IA is scum who got too close to being voted out early and Somber had to come in for the save, but I'm not as certain of that.
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Nov 25, 2021 01:19
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Hey all, still phoning it in just wanted to comment that maaaaaybe Maerlyn is scum since this is the first game in a while where I haven't gone "ok yeah this is obviously town Maerlyn, lock it in" after like 5 posts Don't necessarily need to do anything about it at this point just felt like sharing
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Nov 25, 2021 01:53
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Bifauxnen posted:Hey all, still phoning it in just wanted to comment that maaaaaybe Maerlyn is scum since this is the first game in a while where I haven't gone "ok yeah this is obviously town Maerlyn, lock it in" after like 5 posts Honestly giving toalp poo poo about not knowing how to play scum anymore was sort of the same thing for me. But whatever it is I’m cool with snarklyn. I’m not sure what I think about maer ignoring my post about her having whiplash about her own vote either.
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Nov 25, 2021 02:01
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Bifauxnen posted:Hey all, still phoning it in just wanted to comment that maaaaaybe Maerlyn is scum since this is the first game in a while where I haven't gone "ok yeah this is obviously town Maerlyn, lock it in" after like 5 posts That's where I'm at as well. I don't understand where this IA and I thing is going and I'm thinking it's fake content. I think merk should be held accountable for ending the day early. I like the RF case for similar reasons. I would flip either before voting Maerlyn right now.
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Nov 25, 2021 02:02
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merk posted:Hi. Will you designate me as your proxy?
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Nov 25, 2021 02:02
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Somberbrero posted:That's where I'm at as well. I don't understand where this IA and I thing is going and I'm thinking it's fake content. Is that first part you calling maers content fake?
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Nov 25, 2021 02:06
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Voodoofly posted:Is that first part you calling maers content fake? That's correct.
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Nov 25, 2021 02:09
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merk posted:My vote was pretty bad! ##vote merk This is some soft shade and owning a bad vote when your whole defense is you haven’t caught up, especially not to even say anything more about maer after they are getting heat.
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Nov 25, 2021 02:22
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Bifauxnen posted:Hey all, still phoning it in just wanted to comment that maaaaaybe Maerlyn is scum since this is the first game in a while where I haven't gone "ok yeah this is obviously town Maerlyn, lock it in" after like 5 posts I don't like that my town meta is shaping up to be "takes something too literally or makes an awkward comment". But thanks for sharing. Maybe share what you think about my case?
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Nov 25, 2021 02:34
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Maerlyn posted:I don't like that my town meta is shaping up to be "takes something too literally or makes an awkward comment". It's not entirely that, also you still did that once but it just didn't feel like a lock this time! It was weird! And yeah I would share that if I had thoughts about it yet, maybe later
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Nov 25, 2021 02:37
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Voodoofly posted:Honestly giving toalp poo poo about not knowing how to play scum anymore was sort of the same thing for me. I'll take snarklyn  I'm trying to take a page from mafia dad Merk's book and not engage with someone unless I'm trying to discern alignment. You voted solus before me but I also don't really have a scummy vibe from you right now. Apparently I also agreed with IA's case on Solus, which is.... Big yikes.
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Nov 25, 2021 02:46
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Maerlyn posted:I'll take snarklyn I was especially fond of Maerlyn Manson last game
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Nov 25, 2021 02:50
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Maerlyn posted:I don't like that my town meta is shaping up to be "takes something too literally or makes an awkward comment". Are you going to address the claim? The claim that was good enough for you to swap votes from IA to solus, putting solus in the lead, a swap you later decried, and especially considering IA is claiming that toalp was roleblocked? It’s a lot of entanglement for two vote leaders on day 1 to then entangle themselves up in a role claim and results if both are scum. It might be possible, but I’d be more willing to bet that both wouldn’t be scum and if it’s just one probably IA. If it was a scum roleblock then IA could do it or know the other person that did it and use it to verify his day 1 claim. gently caress I think I just made myself want to look at IA again.
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Nov 25, 2021 02:55
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Bifauxnen posted:I was especially fond of Maerlyn Manson last game I enjoyed that as well! I'm trying to keep Grima Wormtongue at bay this game though (I might not even understand the reference other than it's LOTR and he's a freaky looking villain). Just don't compare me to former weird mafia players and we'll be cool
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Nov 25, 2021 02:55
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Maerlyn posted:I enjoyed that as well! I'm trying to keep Grima Wormtongue at bay this game though (I might not even understand the reference other than it's LOTR and he's a freaky looking villain). Wait who did you get compared to?
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Nov 25, 2021 03:00
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Maerlyn posted:I'm trying to take a page from mafia dad Merk's book and not engage with someone unless I'm trying to discern alignment. Btw why would you do this to yourself lol I always engage with anyone if there is a shitpost to be made
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Nov 25, 2021 03:09
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Voodoofly posted:Wait who did you get compared to? Steak came up...not a fan of that. I don't remember the other name. Voodoofly posted:##vote merk I think it's a poke at me for an ongoing game so I ignored it.
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Nov 25, 2021 03:45
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Maerlyn posted:I'll take snarklyn I had a case on toal that was supposed to be a gimmicky day 1 'aha!' trap, but genuinely got squiggly and solus confused, I never had any real suspicion of solus, I simply thought we were fake voting solus because he failed to post after getting too high. Something I felt like we silently agreed was bait, only we never silently agreed to anything because my own high eyes mistook the vote on squiggly for solus. The case you agreed with was mine against toal.
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Nov 25, 2021 03:45
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Idle Amalgam posted:I had a case on toal that was supposed to be a gimmicky day 1 'aha!' trap, but genuinely got squiggly and solus confused, I never had any real suspicion of solus, I simply thought we were fake voting solus because he failed to post after getting too high. Something I felt like we silently agreed was bait, only we never silently agreed to anything because my own high eyes mistook the vote on squiggly for solus. I might need to look with a clearer brain, I really doubted your role claim last night but I think I read it wrong. I still don't think that Toal being blocked doesn't make them scum though.
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Nov 25, 2021 05:39
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Toal being blocked isn't definitive but it means they didn't perform the kill even if they are scum, that's enough that I think it's a bad day 2 vote. I also find the case work around Toal to be, uhhhhhhhh, unconvincing. That's the word. I haven't perceived anyone defending RF and Merk's votes from yesterday, I think we can all agree those were pretty bad yeah? I would like commentary from Maerlyn and plastic in particular on that point.
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Nov 25, 2021 05:49
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Maerlyn posted:I might need to look with a clearer brain, I really doubted your role claim last night but I think I read it wrong. I still don't think that Toal being blocked doesn't make them scum though. I think it's that town Maerlyn speaks so confidently that it's odd to see the lack of conviction here.
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Nov 25, 2021 05:52
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I wish I could add more. I'm pretty certain about my reads and who to trust moving forward.  Power roles are supposed to be fairly limited so I guess there is a question on whether we would get a watcher and rb and they'd both interact with the same person. Given we had: Doctor, Cop, and Vig all die? In a 13 player game. And that they're all normal roles as far as I know, not this role that lets IA claim without pointing fingers at players. ##unvote Going to ponder this.
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Nov 25, 2021 05:53
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Toalpaz posted:I wish I could add more. I'm pretty certain about my reads and who to trust moving forward. Cop was the night 0 mod-death. You're making some assumptions using a role that presumably was accounted for in some other way given the mod, killed the cop night 0. Is the inclusion of the moderator flavor death a slip on your part or more town oriented or scum oriented though? I'm inclined to think town, and I trust my result thus far.
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Nov 25, 2021 06:14
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ObamaAkbar. posted:Patient Notes lol, toal
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Nov 25, 2021 06:14
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Nov 25, 2021 06:20
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yeah well, then for now I prefer mae to merk rn.
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Nov 25, 2021 06:27
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so like when you think about it if scummers had a role block AND a kill why wouldn't they burn one on you. you claimed b4 night phase, even if they really wanted to kill b-, why wouldn't they just rb you and kill b- because you claimed town power role?
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Nov 25, 2021 06:31
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Toalpaz posted:so like when you think about it Again, luckily for town, I'm not scum. I'd not have made such a harebrained move and would definitely have blocked me, UNLESS they picked up a better target in thread or believed action against me could somehow be revealed given that I had claimed.
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Nov 25, 2021 06:42
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Somberbrero posted:Toal being blocked isn't definitive but it means they didn't perform the kill even if they are scum, that's enough that I think it's a bad day 2 vote. I also find the case work around Toal to be, uhhhhhhhh, unconvincing. That's the word. Since when have I ever been convincing? But I defy you to tell me Toal's behavior sounds like their normal town play here. Why don't you tell me why you think RF and Merk's votes were bad? Both feel like deadline "put a vote down" type votes, Merk didn't realize he was the hammer if you believe him. I have no reason to think he's lying at this point, he hasn't been enough of a presence to tell one way or the other yet and RF is hard for me to read. No snark intended btw, just asking you to explain your thoughts as well.
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Nov 25, 2021 11:59
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Votecount for Day 2  merk (2): Somberbrero, Toalpaz, Toalpaz (2): Maerlyn, PlasticAutomaton Maerlyn (1): Idle Amalgam, Toalpaz, Retro Futurist (1): Sandwolf Idle Amalgam (0): Toalpaz, Not Voting (4): Bifauxnen, merk, Retro Futurist, ToalpazWith 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is November 26th, 2021 at 6 p.m. UTC -- that's in about 1 day, 4 hours.
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Nov 25, 2021 14:16
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This is harder than I thought. Nothing is jumping out yet.
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Nov 25, 2021 14:29
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##vote Voodoofly because:
1 Voodoofly posted:##vote solus 2 Maerlyn posted:That hard swerve from IA to Solus gave me whiplash. I'm gonna ##vote Toal because I think their vote might be the worst. Voodoofly posted:But you were the lynchpin of that shift? Your vote, if I’m reading it right, was off IA and into sky’s, putting solus ahead of IA -- 3 Voodoofly posted:gently caress I think I just made myself want to look at IA again. 4 Voodoofly posted:Yeah you quote vote finder and then immediately vote solus, so why would the shift you had a major part in causing give you whiplash? Voodoofly posted:You caught that I was writing that to gently caress around with our losertars at the time, right? Voodoofly posted:Honestly giving toalp poo poo about not knowing how to play scum anymore was sort of the same thing for me. There are others.
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Nov 25, 2021 14:41
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Other random reads: Sandwolf saying he had to Wikipedia his role feels like town for reasons I can't explain. RF is super lazy this game, almost lazier than me. Still feels town for some reason though. Plastic going after Toal feels genuine. I agree with Somberbrero that eliminating Toal today doesn't make a whole lot of sense, even if there is a decent case out there. Somberbrero is posting way too reasonably. Not enough to build a case, but I spent some time reading there before finding Voodoo. I have no idea what to make of IA's claim or role. Nothing super jumped out in IA's posts to me.
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Nov 25, 2021 14:42
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Ok, see everyone tomorrow.
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Nov 25, 2021 14:43
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Thought about it more and point 4 of my case is the strongest point.
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My vote was definitely bad but there was like 4 hours left and I had poo poo to do. Better a bad vote than a no kill
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Those are all pretty good points, Merk, and gently caress it, citations have me won over. Though I don't want to let IA and Toalpaz off the hook, especially given that Voodoo seemed to start that vote train onto Solus to protect Toaly. It's something we should probably come back to tomorrow. ##vote: Voodoo
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