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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Pretty sure that's just leaves. Like a stick bug but spooky.
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8one6 posted:Like a stick bug but spooky. Exactly! There should be more bug cryptids.
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Nov 24, 2021 05:10
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Ahh, like disco elysium *nod nod*
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Nov 24, 2021 09:27
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How would you even go about creating a hoax these days? So many drones and satellites and dna testing and everything. I'm probably suffering a failure of imagination, or need to do it in a heavily red state.
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Nov 24, 2021 11:45
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Beachcomber posted:How would you even go about creating a hoax these days? So many drones and satellites and dna testing and everything. I mean, if you go by what's reported on and what the believer community latches all you need is a compelling story and a camera that refuses to focus.
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Nov 24, 2021 11:52
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Exactly! There should be more bug cryptids. How about a giant Congolese spider? https://cryptidz.fandom.com/wiki/J%27ba_FoFi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_JVtiKVedY (The video is super underwhelming. Skip to 0:40 for the "spider")
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Beachcomber posted:How would you even go about creating a hoax these days? So many drones and satellites and dna testing and everything. speaking of drones, i mean there was that entire jetpack man thing, you could probably dress a drone up like mothman and do a similar hoax
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Beachcomber posted:How would you even go about creating a hoax these days? So many drones and satellites and dna testing and everything. The Buzzfeed Unsolved crew tried to create a viral hoax video and pretty much nailed it, they decided to make a 'generic' video with a creepy thing happening in the background which they initially "didn't notice" when they uploaded the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhGVggvrzWo Here's a similar one someone else did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK5AalBUNaU Snooze Cruise posted:speaking of drones, i mean there was that entire jetpack man thing, you could probably dress a drone up like mothman and do a similar hoax NGL I started thinking about doing this recently. You could easily give it glowing red eyes using lightweight LEDs and even fit it with a speaker with a random timer so it screeched and yelled
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Nov 24, 2021 12:06
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Beachcomber posted:How would you even go about creating a hoax these days? So many drones and satellites and dna testing and everything. Evidence against this sort of stuff has never been a deterrent in the past. Plenty of people still believe in crop circles. Most folks into this stuff Want To Believe, which lends a lot of leeway. Plus people are dumb and gullible.
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I wish I had any crafting skills at all, because I just had a very interesting idea.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Pretty sure that's just leaves. How about a cryptid that camouflages itself with pareidolia?
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DandyLion posted:How about a cryptid that camouflages itself with pareidolia? Dear god, it would be unstoppable 
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Nov 24, 2021 15:30
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Dear god, it would be unstoppable Not a safe skeptic in the world once that fell beast is on the prowl.
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They're not "real" cryptids, but the algorithm gave me YouTube video the other day about an artist creating an alt-history with giant bug cryptids that seems pretty cool and relevant to the discussion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH85bbDm1xI Also this new Monstrum that just went up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wws89pdCDY
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Nov 24, 2021 20:31
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A lot of analog horror youtube series uses insects and such as part of their spooky world. I know Gemini Home Entertainment has so.ething called a Woodcrawler that is decidedly spider like.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:you're not going to find bigfoot in loving Wolverhampton Well yeah if you're in Wolverhampton and you see something big, shambling, weird and hairy then that's just your common or garden Alan Moore.
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Nov 26, 2021 23:38
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Honestly I'd rather run into a Bigfoot than Alan Moore
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Alan Moore hates all adaptations of his work, Bigfoot is perfectly cool with Harry and the Hendersons
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Slowpoke Rodriguez posted:Alan Moore hates all adaptations of his work, Bigfoot is perfectly cool with Harry and the Hendersons That's because all the adaptations are bad except 'For the Man who has Everything'
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Nov 27, 2021 01:05
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Alan Moore is from (and still lives in) Northampton, about 50/60 miles away to the east of Birmingham/Wolverhampton.
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Nov 27, 2021 04:41
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The_Doctor posted:Alan Moore is from (and still lives in) Northampton, about 50/60 miles away to the east of Birmingham/Wolverhampton. His body may be there, but where he lives is probably beyond comprehension.
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Nov 27, 2021 05:00
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my sister went to college in England, married a guy from over there briefly, and returned home with many baleful tales of ghostly black dogs. need to get me a Church Grim, gonna consecrate my apartment as a church.
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The_Doctor posted:Alan Moore is from (and still lives in) Northampton, about 50/60 miles away to the east of Birmingham/Wolverhampton. gently caress me, so he is. Why was I convinced it was Wolverhampton? I must have picked that up from somewhere.
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 I don't think I've seen this before, the co-op tabletop game Horrified: American Monsters sounds really rad and is something I really want to pick up. Game description posted:In this co-operative game, you face off against classic American nightmarish beasts: Bigfoot, Mothman, the Jersey Devil, the Chupacabra, the Banshee of the Badlands, and the Ozark Howler. The more creatures in the game, the harder the challenge, with players needing to use their unique powers to figure out how to defeat each monster. I found a review that makes it sound generally fun and worth looking into.
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I haven't played that version but the Universal Monsters one was a solid enough time. It plays kind of like a Pandemic-light game if you've played that
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Slowpoke Rodriguez posted:Alan Moore hates all adaptations of his work, Bigfoot is perfectly cool with Harry and the Hendersons Have we ever seen Alan Moore and Bigfoot in the same room?
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Alhazred posted:Have we ever seen Alan Moore and Bigfoot in the same room? I'm going to say Yes, but not the way you mean.
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On the topic of comics, I was thinking about Swamp-Thing the other day and how the concept (if not the plot, I haven't actually seen any Swamp-Thing related media in a long, long time though I heard the 2019 TV series was good, which is why I was thinking about it) has a lot in common with cryptid stories and wondering how much inspiration it took from them. That got me thinking about how many cryptids are directly tied to popular culture, for example the original siting of the chupacabra involved a woman walking home from seeing the movie Species at the theater, and the descriptions of mokele-mbembe and other "living dinosaur" type cryptids have more in common with the dinosaurs in old movies than with what we currently know about dinosaurs from scientific evidence. Does anyone know of any other interactions between pop culture and cryptozoology (other than direct adaptations of cryptid stories, I'm not looking for Harry and the Hendersons, more cryptids that were clearly inspired by movie monsters or original movie monsters that have elements of cryptids in their design)?
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Monstrum does a pretty great job breaking down the pop cultural origins of some cryptids where it's relevant, but yeah I'd love to see a channel dedicated to showing the evolution of cryptids and supernatural monster depictions over time. It's definitely the focus of my documentary on blob creatures that I'm gonna finish... some day.
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stereobreadsticks posted:On the topic of comics, I was thinking about Swamp-Thing the other day and how the concept (if not the plot, I haven't actually seen any Swamp-Thing related media in a long, long time though I heard the 2019 TV series was good, which is why I was thinking about it) has a lot in common with cryptid stories and wondering how much inspiration it took from them. That got me thinking about how many cryptids are directly tied to popular culture, for example the original siting of the chupacabra involved a woman walking home from seeing the movie Species at the theater, and the descriptions of mokele-mbembe and other "living dinosaur" type cryptids have more in common with the dinosaurs in old movies than with what we currently know about dinosaurs from scientific evidence.  I've been fascinated by the Department of Truth series for the last few months. It's not exclusively cryptid related, but it pulls in the whole cryptid/conspiracy side of Americana in a really interesting way. Mild thematic spoilers for the hook of the plot (revealed pretty early on): Basically it delves into the idea that concepts like Bigfoot can come into being if there's enough of a cultural belief in them, and that there are factions within and outside the government that are using this to push history in a way that benefits their own ends. All fun and fascinating stuff if you want a weird, different take on  ideas.
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stereobreadsticks posted:On the topic of comics, I was thinking about Swamp-Thing the other day and how the concept (if not the plot, I haven't actually seen any Swamp-Thing related media in a long, long time though I heard the 2019 TV series was good, which is why I was thinking about it) has a lot in common with cryptid stories and wondering how much inspiration it took from them. That got me thinking about how many cryptids are directly tied to popular culture, for example the original siting of the chupacabra involved a woman walking home from seeing the movie Species at the theater, and the descriptions of mokele-mbembe and other "living dinosaur" type cryptids have more in common with the dinosaurs in old movies than with what we currently know about dinosaurs from scientific evidence. There were a lot of pulp adventure stories from the early 1800s up into the mid 1900s about giant ape creatures and intelligent apes and human-like apes and apes with human minds which would have definitely formed part of the inspiration for Bigfoot and all the related stories. Pop culture was very concerned about the threat posed by weird ape things. Once the bigfoot story kicked off then pretty much any earlier local story or myth or legend about hairy people or ape creatures was then folded into the story. The very first newspaper stories about the 1924 Ape Canyon incident describes the creatures as gorillas or 'mountain devils', although it did mention that they walked upright: The Portland, Oregon Oregonian of July 13, 1924 posted:Fight With Big Apes Reported By Miners Fabled Beasts Are Said to Have Bombarded Cabin One of Animals, Said to Appear Like Huge Gorilla, Is Killed by Party By the time the story was picked up by other papers the following day that had changed to "mountain devils, gorillas or wild men" https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=qFMiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RacFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3542%2C985048 ..... and soon that had changed to "'tall gorilla men', or 'ape men'" https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=wOYkAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ChMGAAAAIBAJ&pg=1141%2C391215 Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 03:44 on Nov 30, 2021 |
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Can confirm that Department of Truth is a good comic for conspiracy heads. It's a slowish burn, which is frustrating, but someone coming at it fresh and with a chunk of issues to read will like it. Trouble is that extra-textual question: is this a limited series with a finite end in mind, or...?
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Pastry of the Year posted:Trouble is that extra-textual question: is this a limited series with a finite end in mind, or...? It feels like it has an end goal in mind to me. But I have no actual information to support that, and one of my biggest complaints about comics is when they just kind of move forward indefinitely without that. In the meantime, I'm still really enjoying it though.
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feedmyleg posted:Monstrum does a pretty great job breaking down the pop cultural origins of some cryptids where it's relevant, but yeah I'd love to see a channel dedicated to showing the evolution of cryptids and supernatural monster depictions over time. There's a good book I have called Abominable Science that does this. Goes into the history of different cryptids in the stories that evolved in our modern thinking. The section on Bigfoot talks about how the Native American myths that are cited as the proof that Bigfoot has been a thing for eons are less "bigfoot walks among us" and more "There are hairy primitives that live in the woods that suck compared to us, who know how to build houses and cook our food".
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stereobreadsticks posted:
Not cryptids, but there's been several observations that UFO / alien sightings go through fads and fashions about how they're depicted - lights in the sky, blonde Nordics imparting wisdom, greys kidnapping people. These show up in movies and TV, and so could influence people's ideas but are also a product of culture themselves.
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nonathlon posted:Not cryptids, but there's been several observations that UFO / alien sightings go through fads and fashions about how they're depicted - lights in the sky, blonde Nordics imparting wisdom, greys kidnapping people. These show up in movies and TV, and so could influence people's ideas but are also a product of culture themselves. In the 1800s and early 1900s there were a whole bunch of sensationalist newspaper reports of UFOs which were made out of wood and canvas and had propellers
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:In the 1800s and early 1900s there were a whole bunch of sensationalist newspaper reports of UFOs which were made out of wood and canvas and had propellers That was back when aliens had to put in actual effort to visit earth, just try and imagine aliens these days traveling thousands of light years without their hyperspeed and dimensional jumpers and whatnot 
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After binging through this thread, I was inspired to do a write-up on the cryptids in my home state of Connecticut. It’s a small, eclectic little mix that consists of: Melon Heads - There are competing legends about small populations of little humanoid-looking beings with enormous, bulbous heads living deep in the woods in various spots mainly in the southwest of the state. Some stories say that they’re the result of centuries of inbreeding by some folks who were were a little too rural for their own good, but there’s at least one story that says that they are escapees from a mental institution whose heads swelled up after resorting to cannibalism in the woods (which is genuinely funny to me considering how pretty densely populated that part of the state is). Either way, in several towns there are heavily wooded backroads where they supposedly live, and if you drive through at night they’ll attack and chase you away. Similar “monsters-resulting-from-inbreeding” legends specific to particular towns in the state are the Frog-Headed People of Danbury, in the west of the state. Often mentioned alongside the Melon Heads but not quite as similar are the Faceless People of Monroe, a bunch of unfortunates who live in an old barn under the watch of a caretaker and supposedly have no eyes, ears, or noses - just mouths and pale lips. There are also Melon Heads reportedly in Ohio and Michigan too.   (One of the Melon Head roads) Winsted Wild Man - In 1895, the editor of the town of Winsted local paper, the Evening Citizen, wrote how a selectman out for a walk encountered what he described as a tall naked man covered in long, streaming black hair who leapt from some blackberry bushes and frightened him and his dog. After this was reported in a local paper, a brief hysteria followed, and not only were sightings reported all around the area, but at one point concerned citizens organized a militia to try and track this wild man down. Most likely it was just a hoax completely fabricated by the newspaper editor, but there were a few scattered sightings decades later in the 1970’s. He's been variously depicted as a super hairy dude and as a New England Sasquatch.   Black Dog of Hanging Hills - Connecticut has its own take on the phantom black dog legends from English folklore, except that ours has been described as small, spaniel-sized little thing that will appear around Hubbard Park, nestled in the Hanging Hills that overlook the small city of Meriden. When it appears, it leaves no footprints in its wake and makes absolutely no sounds, even when it opens its mouth to bark or howl. It's reported to be very friendly and will happily approach you and follow along but a bit, but it's not someone you want to become close pals with. As the legend goes, one sighting is good luck, two is a warning, and the third means impending death. Six deaths are attributed to running into this lil' doggy the fatal three times.  Glawackus - In 1939, a creature was sighted several times around the town of Glastonbury, frightening locals as it supposedly preyed on pets and small farm animals. It had a variety of descriptions but was most commonly described as half dog, half cat. Many have since theorized that it was just a wandering fisher cat which had become almost extinct in the area at the time and were a pretty rare sight (they have since been successfully reintroduced to Connecticut and now live all throughout the state again). Its wonderfully dumb name is a combination of “gla” for Glastonbury, “wack” for wacky, and “-us” just to have a Latin-sounding ending.  They might not be much, but I am still proud to have them as my local weirdos! IBroughttheFunk has a new favorite as of 12:54 on Dec 2, 2021 |
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