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I liked Kyoraku's bankai cause it had a pretty lady.
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Lib and let die posted:Is there an anime with as good an OST as Bleach? From the weird dissonant stuff to the intense symphonic poo poo, I don't think, note for note, Sagisu has produced anything as good as what he did for Bleach. Doubt it, that thing had flavor for days. Making the third OST a full-on gypsy/rhumba flamenco dark Spanish hybrid was a ridiculously cool concept, no other villains have had the same stage presence since then (even though half went out like bitches)
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Dec 25, 2021 17:51
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Aizen was a ridiculous "everything was just my illusion and also I'm invincible anyway" villain, but he's so smug and charismatic about it that he's a lot of fun and it's satisfying to watch him get owned. Also he was right.
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Dec 25, 2021 19:17
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Aizen was a liberator and I greeted him as such
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Dec 25, 2021 19:28
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i'm an aizen simp
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Dec 25, 2021 19:46
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PringleCreamEgg posted:Bleach, for all its many flaws, was always interesting or engaging even at its worst. Very few chapters fell entirely flat because there would usually be something cool happening or one great looking panel, or something hilariously stupid. It's why we still have a thread and are excited for the next anime despite knowing how awful some parts are. Like yeah the bird god thing was dumb as gently caress but it looked crazy and it was so nonsensical that it was funny. Everything about Thor was dumb but we got absolutely awesome poo poo with Kenpachi and Komamura from it. The ending feels a dozen or more chapters away but suddenly wraps up in two. It's like the end of an episode of Charmed, suddenly the bad guy is poofed away, all problems are now solved. It's awful but so absurd it still entertains. I think you might be looking through rose-tinted lens here. I remember the Bleach thread during the last arc basically constantly talking about how bad it was and how it wasn't even an entertaining sort of bad (but you still keep reading just because it's almost over and doesn't exactly take much time each week). It took the sort of patterns/cliches that have always existed in the series to such an extreme that it was almost impressive. Nearly every single fight would have multiple instances of characters seemingly losing and then no-selling the attack.
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Dec 25, 2021 19:49
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MJeff posted:I liked Kyoraku's bankai cause it had a pretty lady. I like how it was just a bunch of cool random poo poo happening that boiled down to "you die."
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Dec 25, 2021 19:55
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Doc Fission posted:Aizen was a liberator and I greeted him as such He recognized the truth, that Soul Society is the worst heaven ever
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Dec 25, 2021 20:22
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fascist ghosts found the afterlife and decided to 'improve' it for their own benefit by taking absolute control and butchering the closest thing there was to a god. then the cool rebel mc threw in with the fascists, who remained fascists.
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Dec 25, 2021 20:26
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Kubo is the real villain for not making IchiRuki canon
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Dec 25, 2021 21:28
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hiddenriverninja posted:Kubo is the real villain for not making IchiRuki canon Too good for this world.
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Dec 25, 2021 21:41
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Aizen was bad
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Dec 25, 2021 22:02
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If they don't do Aizen's chair justice I'm gonna freak it.
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Dec 25, 2021 22:23
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MJeff posted:I liked Kyoraku's bankai cause it had a pretty lady. The ultimate reveal about Kyoraku's zan being a cute lady he wanted to gently caress was pretty much the perfect capstone for him. hiddenriverninja posted:Kubo is the real villain for not making IchiRuki canon Anime is gonna be funny assuming it's the same studio, since as I remember the animation team were blatant IchRuki simps and poured a ton of love into animating a filler episode that was basically them going on a date.
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Dec 25, 2021 23:26
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Sydin posted:
Episode 342, if anyone was wondering.
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Dec 25, 2021 23:47
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Sydin posted:The ultimate reveal about Kyoraku's zan being a cute lady he wanted to gently caress was pretty much the perfect capstone for him. Compiling the list of shinigami who would gently caress their swords' spirits.
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Dec 26, 2021 00:22
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Lib and let die posted:Is there an anime with as good an OST as Bleach? From the weird dissonant stuff to the intense symphonic poo poo, I don't think, note for note, Sagisu has produced anything as good as what he did for Bleach. Bleach isn't even the best Shiro Sagisu score.
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Dec 26, 2021 04:55
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hiddenriverninja posted:Kubo is the real villain for not making IchiRuki canon It does not help it is the only relationship throughout all of Bleach where both characters actually have some chemistry, romantic or otherwise. Even in the Hell Arc oneshot I feel more of a dynamic in Rukia yelling at Ichigo over the phone than I feel with her talking to her husband.
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Dec 26, 2021 07:00
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Y posted:Bleach isn't even the best Shiro Sagisu score. You can't just drop a line like that and not follow it up
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Dec 26, 2021 15:38
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He's obviously talking about his work on Garzey's Wing
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Dec 26, 2021 16:56
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You can see where Kubo wanted to make IchiHime a thing. I would say up through the Vizard arc, he does a decent job developing Orihime, and then when she gets kidnapped, he really starts laying down the framework for a version of the story where IchiHime makes sense. Orihime is kidnapped, she confesses to Ichigo while he's asleep, everybody else thinks she defected, Ichigo is literally the only one that still believes in her and he's willing to risk it all and go against Soul Society and take on Hueco Mundo all by himself because he just believes in her that much. Orihime has her own development in Hueco Mundo, where it's built up strongly that she's very relevant to how things will shake out in the upcoming conflict, her powers are completely recontextualized to make them much stronger and she makes a promise that she is going to reject the Hyogoku out of existence, which seemingly telegraphs that she's going to factor significantly into the climax of the arc. And then Chad and Uryu show up. Okay. Fine. They're the core cast and also Orihime's friends, that's fine. And there's an opportunity for both of them to grow in this arc too when they had been falling behind since Soul Society. And then Rukia and Renji show up. Oooookay, that kind of undercuts the idea that they're going against Soul Society, but Rukia at least has a strong connection to Orihime and she has personal stuff going on in this arc too. That's fine. And then the other captains show up. So the theme of the heroes doing it on their own and going against Soul Society is completely gone. And then Aizen says "lmao I just kidnapped you to bring Soul Society here", despite him very purposefully kidnapping her in a way where Soul Society wouldn't come for her. And all of that significance that had been built up for Orihime is completely gone. There was a very clear, distinct change in the creative direction of the story after Ichigo vs. Grimmjow that just kinda turfed what had been built up so far. It felt like Kubo had been setting up for some long term thing with the Winter War and then he just threw it out when he did the Fake Karakura stuff instead. And as a result, IchiHime got turfed as well, cause Orihime basically did nothing for the rest of the manga when that shift happened. MJeff fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Dec 26, 2021 |
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Dec 26, 2021 19:24
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I legitimately think Rukia and Ichigo work best as friends anyway. Just two friends who burn incredibly bright, but you probably know would never ever work out long term with each other.
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Dec 26, 2021 19:29
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IchiPachi or gtfo
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Dec 26, 2021 19:31
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Poor Tatsuki, confesses her love for Orihime and is never seen again
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Dec 26, 2021 19:37
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FuturePastNow posted:Poor Tatsuki, confesses her love for Orihime and is never seen again She and Rapey lesbian archtype who's name I forget are probably together.
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Dec 26, 2021 19:38
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FuturePastNow posted:Poor Tatsuki, confesses her love for Orihime and is never seen again He was telegraphing Tatsuki getting powers so hard and it just...never happened. 
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Dec 26, 2021 19:43
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Tatsuki got loving robbed and I will never forgive Kubo
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Dec 26, 2021 19:50
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It felt like Kubo had a ton of plans/ideas and then his editor woke up from a coma and told him to wrap it up ASAP
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Dec 26, 2021 19:58
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Still remembering how Shinji had one of the better long term builds only to get owned by Aizen because no fuckin way is Shinji gonna beat Aizen, sorry sir
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Dec 26, 2021 20:03
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Regarding what mjeff said about the abrupt shift in the hueco Mundo story, Kubo had a notoriously toxic relationship with the Jump editorial staff. Combined with his shortcomings when it comes to improvising I would not be surprised if some edict from the higher ups hosed his entire poo poo up
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Dec 26, 2021 20:05
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Shinji was the first guy in the entire loving manga to actually hit Aizen and then he just immediately got punked right after.Stairmaster posted:Regarding what mjeff said about the abrupt shift in the hueco Mundo story, Kubo had a notoriously toxic relationship with the Jump editorial staff. Combined with his shortcomings when it comes to improvising I would not be surprised if some edict from the higher ups hosed his entire poo poo up I would really love to hear the entire behind the scenes history of Bleach someday, between the shift I was talking about and the equally abrupt shift at the end, it seems like the whole run of the manga was just loving plagued.
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Dec 26, 2021 20:05
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Stairmaster posted:I would not be surprised if some edict from the higher ups hosed his entire poo poo up I don't think any reasonable person could doubt this when looking at the fullbringer arc especially.
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Dec 26, 2021 20:16
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regardless of any problems with editors, kubo is still kubo. look at burn the witch, which he probably made without interference since it was a short vanity project. btw was purestrain kubo, and not in a good way.
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Dec 26, 2021 20:17
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Dexo posted:I legitimately think Rukia and Ichigo work best as friends anyway. Yeah, I really like the idea that a boy and girl can have an incredibly meaningful friendship and change each other's lives without it necessarily being romantic. I think the manga does a good job of showing they each belong in their respective worlds. There's no point at which Ichigo yearns to be in SS and there are multiple points where Rukia proves she belongs there and wants to build real community there. At the end of the day they're both heavily responsibility-driven characters and it so happens their responsibilities are in different places.
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Dec 26, 2021 20:18
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:regardless of any problems with editors, kubo is still kubo. look at burn the witch, which he probably made without interference since it was a short vanity project. btw was purestrain kubo, and not in a good way. I thought Burn the Witch has been solid.
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Dec 26, 2021 20:19
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I can't find any images of the original artwork, but I remember seeing Kubo draw Tatsuki as a shinigami with a cat/weasel thing as her zanpakuto:
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Dec 26, 2021 20:20
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hiddenriverninja posted:I can't find any images of the original artwork, but I remember seeing Kubo draw Tatsuki as a shinigami with a cat/weasel thing as her zanpakuto: It doesn't seem to be enjoying its life much.
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Dec 26, 2021 20:21
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As a side note, I really enjoyed zanpakutou rebellion+follow up arc with filler Kuchiki guy. All the zanpakuto humanoid forms were cool, except for Renji's, who had a badass monkey snake monster that became a big boobed furry woman attached to a child.
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Dec 26, 2021 20:25
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hiddenriverninja posted:As a side note, I really enjoyed zanpakutou rebellion+follow up arc with filler Kuchiki guy. All the zanpakuto humanoid forms were cool, except for Renji's, who had a badass monkey snake monster that became a big boobed furry woman attached to a child. Within the continuity of the anime and various filler skits, Renji canonically had Mayuri perform a sex change on his zanpakuto to turn it into a big tiddy sword gf. There's a whole skit where Mayuri is advertising this service and shows example pamphlets to Renji and Hisagi.
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despite ichigo's multiple confusing and contradictory power sources, he's a living human. and while it was never really a focus, rukia is dead. she's a dang ghost, who came from the afterlife and can only meaningfully interact with the world of the living by inhabiting an unsettling flesh doll. rukia's almost certainly not even a ghost baby, in the sense of ghost fuckin' following by a ghost pregnancy, a ghost birth and a ghost child. instead, she died as an infant (presumably at the same time as her sister) and ended up in the infinite slum town afterlife. but well, i suppose it's still possible that rukongai inhabitants can reproduce despite how utterly insane that would be and how it would directly contradict how the whole afterlife is supposed to work. it's bleach, after all. that would leave the possibility open that rukia was a ghost baby and not a baby ghost. i got off topic.
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