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Harrison’s Sisters of Battle book is a fun little bit action movie detour and has a queer couple as two of the main characters, with their relationship playing a big part in the narrative no less.
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Shirkelton posted:While I’m loath to engage in power level chat, Celestine seems to in general be a pretty big step beyond what other Saints are capable of. No, she jumps on top of it, stabs the driver to death through the hull, then drops a tube charge into the hatch. She also almost gets killed by a member of the crew who draws a bead on her from behind. Sabbat is an unbelievably skilled fighter in peak human condition but if you shot her she’d die. She needs the support of the Guard, it’s a major theme in the books.
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She's definitely leveled up by the Matthew Farrer Urdesh books then.
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Jan 2, 2022 18:15
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Are the Farsight books any good? Looks like they're putting them out on Audiobook finally.
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AnEdgelord posted:Are the Farsight books any good? Looks like they're putting them out on Audiobook finally. I thought the first one was pretty mediocre. Not bad, but not anything special. It features some of the most ineffective marines of all time.
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Deptfordx posted:She's definitely leveled up by the Matthew Farrer Urdesh books then. I mean she was already going above and beyond in Anarch when She battled the two Yoncy and Dalin Woe Machines in the undercroft which were literally giant balls of razor saws.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Apropos of nothing, I just want to say that Black Library has done a pretty good job of integrating queer characters into newer books in a way that doesn't feel forced or like a footnote. It comes up when it's would naturally come up, it's not treated differently than cishet characters/and LGBTQphobia either doesn't come up or is treated with the appropriate tact and weight What are some of the better books with queer characters?
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FPyat posted:What are some of the better books with queer characters? Flesh And Steel has the main character's gay cousin as a supporting character, The House Of Night And Chain has a female supporting character that mentions her late wife occasionally and Rites Of Passage features a non-binary character. That's what I can think of off the top of my head. Especially in comparison to other sci-fi franchises, it's treated well.
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Is there any chaos book that has Khornates as fun over the top madmen instead of the "Ohh no this corruption that we have been dealing with for millenia is so tragic and the death of honor, it will undo us aaaany time now!" ? I'm not asking for ork level shenanigans, but I think Lheorvine Firefist is the only berserker who is not a miserable wreck in the whole galaxy. There has to be another somewhere.
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Uzas is pretty chipper about it.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Apropos of nothing, I just want to say that Black Library has done a pretty good job of integrating queer characters into newer books in a way that doesn't feel forced or like a footnote. It comes up when it would naturally come up, it's not treated differently than cishet characters and LGBTQphobia either doesn't come up or is treated with the appropriate tact and weight when it does. Yeah the Imperium not giving a gently caress as long as it's consensual is to GW's credit.
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All this discussion makes me want to read Shroud of Night again. Celestine, World Eaters, Alpha Legion, Emperors Children, Imperial Fists, Chaos first encounters with Primaris marines. Another two bigguns make an appearance, but I don't want to spoil that. Philthy fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jan 3, 2022 |
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Relevant Tangent posted:Yeah the Imperium not giving a gently caress as long as it's consensual is to GW's credit. Dan Abnett mentioned a random gay couple living in Petropolis in Ravenor Returned almost 20 years ago. One reason there’s more queer visibility in 40K writing now is that more and more scenes in 40K books take place in locations other than a battlefield, so we’re getting more details about how people live.
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Philthy posted:All this discussion makes me want to read Shroud of Night again. Celestine, World Eaters, Alpha Legion, Emperors Children, Imperial Fists, Chaos first encounters with Primaris marines. Another two bigguns make an appearance, but I don't want to spoil that. Aside from -------Kharn-------, who else makes an appearance? I was rooting for that cultist. Definitely needs a sequel.
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Chemtrailologist posted:Aside from -------Kharn-------, who else makes an appearance? Keeper of Secrets. Philthy fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Jan 4, 2022 |
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I feel like the Emperors Children should be constantly fuckin and suckin each-other. Do any authors ever get into that in any detail?
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Lawdog69 posted:I feel like the Emperors Children should be constantly fuckin and suckin each-other. Do any authors ever get into that in any detail? How much detail about oral or anal space marine sex are you looking for? 40k Badcast can probably point you at some terrible fan fiction to match your tastes.
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Lawdog69 posted:I feel like the Emperors Children should be constantly fuckin and suckin each-other. Do any authors ever get into that in any detail? Never enough
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there's a lesbian couple in the ciaphas cain books, one of them is a bloodthirsty tanker and i love her
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Dan Abnett mentioned a random gay couple living in Petropolis in Ravenor Returned almost 20 years ago. One reason there’s more queer visibility in 40K writing now is that more and more scenes in 40K books take place in locations other than a battlefield, so we’re getting more details about how people live. Note that he was using his state sanctioned psycher powers to surveil the city without a warrant, court order or anything.
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MariusLecter posted:Note that he was using his state sanctioned psycher powers to surveil the city without a warrant, court order or anything. Now I'm trying to imagine the fits of hysterical laughter even the nicest of Inquisitors would go into if you told him "oh my God-Emperor, you can't just violate the privacy of Imperial citizens without probable cause!"
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"Statistically one percent of the humans in this Hive are actually xenos, do you know how many millions of people that is?"
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Improbable Lobster posted:Never enough Pervy stuff is fine, but I like it when EC (and Slaanesh in general) veers into the bizarre, unknowable decadences past mortal ken. I remember there was a comic of some Noise Marine captain reporting to his superior/daemon prince and being 'rewarded' by some freaky mass of kaleidoscopic flesh-tendrils attaching to his face holes, to his sheer delight. More stuff like that, original Hellraiser-style, feels right to me.
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Sephyr posted:Pervy stuff is fine, but I like it when EC (and Slaanesh in general) veers into the bizarre, unknowable decadences past mortal ken. Yeah, but it should also be very gay
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Lawdog69 posted:I feel like the Emperors Children should be constantly fuckin and suckin each-other. Do any authors ever get into that in any detail? It is my firm belief that all Space Marines are absolutely loving each other, because seriously a lot of the time the Horus Heresy straight-up reads like gay erotica. (The latrine scene in Legion? Really?) Anyway, I think Path of Heaven has an implied relationship between Eidolon and a duelist under his command who he thinks is hot and The Reflection Crack'd...exists, and has the Emperor's Children gangbanging Fulgrim. I honestly actually LOVE Reflection Crack'd regardless of lore implications because it is just hysterical to me that GW and Black Library were like 'yep, okay, sounds good' to pretty much straight-up explicit guro. I also think Fulgrim-the first one by McNeill-had a passage about a Noise Marine coming in his armor after being flamethrowered? Graham McNeill is in general really really horny for Fulgrim, there's a lot of loving descriptions of his perfect body and incredible beauty and random nude scenes. Re: queer characters, though there's a hell of a lot of problematic tropes inherent, Neferata is canonically bisexual and one of my fave WHF/AOS characters. She and her girlfriend Naaima have a lot of screentime in the Nagash trilogy and in the Neferata: Blood of Nagash book. Nagash the Undying King in AOS has her flirting with an unfortunate female necromancer who's the protagonist.
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Just read SPACE MARINE, it's about a homoerotic triad bound together with love and hate.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Yeah, but it should also be very gay Oh yes, relentlessly. Even when it's drug stuff there should be a blurb saying "there's actually microscopic daemons inside this concoction. They are all gay and humping each other and the bonus they give you is that they make you gayer."
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The world eaters are definitely masc4masc
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Just read SPACE MARINE, it's about a homoerotic triad bound together with love and hate. I read that high and it was an experience let me tell you.
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Would a space ship with 6’ ceilings defeat any SM boarding action ? 6’ is 2 meters or so
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euphronius posted:Would a space ship with 6’ ceilings defeat any SM boarding action ? Any ship that doesn't have at least a 10 foot ceiling would never be commissioned by the Imperial Navy. That's probably some level of heresy to not allow accommodation for astartes or large abhumans. The Administratum's building code inspectors must wield immense power.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Just read SPACE MARINE, it's about a homoerotic triad bound together with love and hate. They also board a tyranid bio ship via a boarding pod shot through the ship's rear end in a top hat so there is that.
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euphronius posted:Would a space ship with 6’ ceilings defeat any SM boarding action ? That would absolutely suck to work,live, and fight in. Especially given the scale of 40k ships.
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Ciaphus Cain wouldn't be able to walk in a ship with 6 foot ceilings 
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You'd just be better off having defensive sections where the ceiling is fairly short instead of doing the whole ship like it.
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SPACE MARINE managed to make Imperial Fists, who are actually more boring than Ultramarines, interesting. Through massive amounts of homoeroticism and the author's fetishes, yes, but 'they're also all kinky gay masochists' is a hell of a hook. It also has the added benefit of making a lot of bits in the Horus Heresy very silly because IIRC the Pain Glove is still canon, so scenes like Fabius Bile talking about how the Imperial Fists hold up better under torture than any other legion take on a whole new meaning.
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Jerkface posted:Ciaphus Cain wouldn't be able to walk in a ship with 6 foot ceilings
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Arquinsiel posted:A lot of people would have trouble with it. It's not that high at all. Now I'm just curious how tall OP is.
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Given Euphronius is a regular in the Tolkien thread I conclude that he's a hobbit or a Dwarf.
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