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Yeah, Peck wasn't wrong but he went about everything in the worst possible way in addition to being just an outright rear end about it.
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Basebf555 posted:Peck is still a reckless rear end in a top hat about it though. Like, if you do discover a situation where there's a "containment unit" with a bunch of potentially hazardous materials in it, maybe don't arbitrarily cut off the power before studying it a little bit first? rantmo posted:Yeah, Peck wasn't wrong but he went about everything in the worst possible way in addition to being just an outright rear end about it. That Italian Guy has a new favorite as of 17:28 on Dec 30, 2021 |
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Alternatively the entire situation could have been defused if Bill Murray hadn’t been so combative with Peck from the get go. Perhaps, given a tour of the facility and a ride-along Peck might have been more reasonable but by the time things come to a head he hates Murray so loving much
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The IDW comics do some fun stuff with the Ghostbusters exploring the ramifications of their business a bit. In the aftermath of the movies (and possibly the game) the Ghostbusters basically get nationalised as a public service... and Walter Peck is their boss.
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Basebf555 posted:Peck is still a reckless rear end in a top hat about it though. Like, if you do discover a situation where there's a "containment unit" with a bunch of potentially hazardous materials in it, maybe don't arbitrarily cut off the power before studying it a little bit first? Very true. When I was a kid on the farm we had so many things that had to maintain power. All of them were dangerous. Some would simply ruin the crop if the power was cut, some would burst into flame if the blower wasn't running. Some switches were installed so that off was on and on was off. Some of those were knife switches too so you had to be careful. Some of those turned on terrible seed cleaning machines that are happy to eat you. Up is supposed to be on, but we had some that were down for on because my great grandpa did not pay much attention to code back in the 1920's. Don't move switches if you don't know exactly what they do.
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Dec 30, 2021 18:13
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mostlygray posted:Don't move switches if you don't know exactly what they do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZS2B5y1J4A&hd=1
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Dec 30, 2021 18:20
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That Italian Guy posted:The fact that he wasn't wrong is not part of the text of the movie. We think privately owned, unregulated nuclear accelerators are a problem, but if we were smart enough we would see Even they (privately) acknowledge it's a problem, immediately after Peck leaves we get the "Tell him about the Twinkie" scene where they establish that the grid isn't holding up well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzaQjS1JstY
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I always think to not only do they have "unlicensed, untested nuclear accelerators strapped to their backs", but how did they determine that nuclear lasers would be an effective method for trapping ghosts? What were they going to do at the hotel if it didn't work? It's me. I'm the dork that wants the explanation. To get back on track, the best subtle moment in Ghostbusters is Egon miming how much money to charge the hotel guy while Peter is explaining.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The IDW comics do some fun stuff with the Ghostbusters exploring the ramifications of their business a bit. In the aftermath of the movies (and possibly the game) the Ghostbusters basically get nationalised as a public service... and Walter Peck is their boss. Once again my policy of ignoring the extended universe of every property I find fun pays dividends.
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CzarChasm posted:I always think to not only do they have "unlicensed, untested nuclear accelerators strapped to their backs", but how did they determine that nuclear lasers would be an effective method for trapping ghosts? What were they going to do at the hotel if it didn't work? I love that it's never explained. They needed something to trap ghosts, Egon did science, now they have something.
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That Italian Guy posted:In the Sam Raimi movies, Spiderman is from a working class family and his enemies are heads of giant corporations; they are also using cutting edge tech while Spidey is "all natural". All his adventures are set in or around his neighbourhood. The new movie has him without all the fancy tech at the end. They even show he sewed his own suit. I'm very happy they reduced his scope. Iron Man Jr. sucked.
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Basebf555 posted:Peck is still a fixed
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Push El Burrito posted:I love that it's never explained. They needed something to trap ghosts, Egon did science, now they have something. It has something to do with the readings they get from the Librarian ghost. I guess the idea is that they've never actually encountered a real ghost before, so when they do get those readings Egon uses it to design a system for containing that particular type of energy.
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That's my take on it as well. They scanned a ghost, Egon did the math and figured out how to trap em in a big energy beam cause they kinda got hosed on the whole "well, they're real... What now?" option, and no one really considered the ramifications of the dead coming back or proof of the after life, they just considered them pests and called the ghost catchers.
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Yeah, Ray says, during the campus walk scene, that if the ionization rate is constant, then they could really bust some heads (in a spiritual sense, of course). That's meant for the audience as a "they're very close to working out the science for all of this" clue.
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Maybe it was less subtle on the big screen or in 1080p on a reasonable modern tv, but since I only ever watched Roger Rabbit on VHS (or once a ripped version on YouTube), I only just recently found out that Eddie Valiant's toon revolver and cowboy-rear end bullets were a gift from Yosemite Sam "for keeping him out of the hoosegow"
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I’ve never noticed that and I think it’s more than enough reason to watch the movie again.
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That Italian Guy posted:In the Sam Raimi movies, Spiderman is from a working class family and his enemies are heads of giant corporations; they are also using cutting edge tech while Spidey is "all natural". All his adventures are set in or around his neighbourhood. to add, not only does he lose the tech and scope, but he ends up in a 'crappy' apartment without his entrance to MIT and has to study for his GED, and basically be working class. Which is cool, but I doubt it will last long in the future films of him. I put 'crappy' in quotation marks because my partner and I were like "um, being able to afford your own place without flatmates????"
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No Way Home was the last of the standalone movies that has Disney/Marvel's tentacles involved. It's all Sony from now on. And the first post credit scene explains that Tom Hardy's Venom is not tied into the Sony-Disney MCU Spider-man movies (but symbiote starter goo is now in the Hollandverse), but Morbius actually is now in Hollandverse based on seeing Michael Keaton in the trailer.
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That Italian Guy posted:In the Sam Raimi movies, Spiderman is from a working class family and his enemies are heads of giant corporations; they are also using cutting edge tech while Spidey is "all natural". All his adventures are set in or around his neighbourhood. Its been a while and I haven't seen the third in either series but wasn't it:
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Cat Hatter posted:Its been a while and I haven't seen the third in either series but wasn't it:
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Molina Ock isn't depicted as wealthy.
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Someone on Twitter had the idea of a Walter Peck series where he just goes around busting various superheroes/hardworking crime fighters/vigilantes for EPA violations. Maybe Peck could visit Jackie Daytona about all the unauthorized burials in his front yard. Do you have any idea what that does to ground water?
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I have a mysterious red switch in my flat. I've tried it but idk what it does other than make a red LED light up. Maybe that's all it's for.
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Aphrodite posted:Molina Ock isn't depicted as wealthy.
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Upper 5% tops. Corporate scientists don't get paid like the finance guys working those big arms deals on goblin gliders and pumpkin bombs. It does bring up the question whether super villains reduce property values. Maybe Peter Parker can afford that rent because the cost of having your car thrown through a skyscraper is baked into the cost of living. I think there was a show about insurance adjusters dealing with superhero damage, but the TV pilot didn't get picked up. One of the better parts of Spider-Man: Homecoming and the Netflix Marvel shows were watching people deal with the after effects of the various Avenger movies.
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As i recall, he's funded by but does not work for Oscorp.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Someone on Twitter had the idea of a Walter Peck series where he just goes around busting various superheroes/hardworking crime fighters/vigilantes for EPA violations. Walter Peck would absolutely trek all the way out to Staten Island to clown on some rear end in a top hat using natural fertilizer.
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bitterandtwisted posted:I have a mysterious red switch in my flat. I've tried it but idk what it does other than make a red LED light up. Maybe that's all it's for. It kills somebody across the world and gives the previous occupant of your apartment a whole bunch of money. That's why they moved out, they hit the button and got the money for a better place.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:It kills somebody across the world and gives the previous occupant of your apartment a whole bunch of money. That's why they moved out, they hit the button and got the money for a better place. Unfortunately that makes them now eligible to be killed by the switch ooooOooOoOOo
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Flick switch, rip off switch from wall.
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Krispy Wafer posted:It does bring up the question whether super villains reduce property values. Maybe Peter Parker can afford that rent because the cost of having your car thrown through a skyscraper is baked into the cost of living. I think there was a show about insurance adjusters dealing with superhero damage, but the TV pilot didn't get picked up. Didn't season 1 of Daredevil specifically mention that property in Hell's Kitchen is now super cheap because it was trashed in the movies?
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SimonChris posted:Didn't season 1 of Daredevil specifically mention that property in Hell's Kitchen is now super cheap because it was trashed in the movies? Yes, very casually. One line and a newspaper clip IIRC.
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Krispy Wafer posted:It does bring up the question whether super villains reduce property values. Maybe Peter Parker can afford that rent because the cost of having your car thrown through a skyscraper is baked into the cost of living. I think there was a show about insurance adjusters dealing with superhero damage, but the TV pilot didn't get picked up. Yeah, Damage Control. There's been a few short comic runs about them (where they were a reconstruction company).
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Phy posted:Yeah, Damage Control. There's been a few short comic runs about them (where they were a reconstruction company). Wasn't that part of Michael Keaton's Vulture arc in MCU Spiderman? God drat he was good in that movie.
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BiggerBoat posted:Wasn't that part of Michael Keaton's Vulture arc in MCU Spiderman? Yeah he played a contractor who was hired to do New York cleanup post-Avengers 1 but Tony founds a damage control subsidiary of Stark Industries that take it over and leave them out of work
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It's such a good way to give him motivation against Tony and the whole hero structure. Stark could have bought him out of his contract, given him and his crew more than enough to cover expenses because he wanted to legally get his hands on alien tech. Instead he used his clout to just push out any blue-collar workers for his own gain. Truly the best way to show he actually is a billionaire.
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Inzombiac posted:It's such a good way to give him motivation against Tony and the whole hero structure. I wouldn't call anyone who owns a company big enough to even bid on a project that size "blue collar" even if they are a small fry compared to Tony Stark. Even then, I don't think Stark's clout was the biggest reason the government took the contract away from the guy yelling out in the open about how he wants to salvage alien weapons to sell to people. If a nuclear bomber crashes (again) they don't let Pull-A-Part do the salvage, they get someone who already builds nuclear weapons to do it. He still should have been compensated though. It was probably in his contact too if he hadn't been more concerned with selling ray guns to gang members.
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Cat Hatter posted:I wouldn't call anyone who owns a company big enough to even bid on a project that size "blue collar" even if they are a small fry compared to Tony Stark. Even then, I don't think Stark's clout was the biggest reason the government took the contract away from the guy yelling out in the open about how he wants to salvage alien weapons to sell to people. If a nuclear bomber crashes (again) they don't let Pull-A-Part do the salvage, they get someone who already builds nuclear weapons to do it. The house that Vulture lived in was pretty drat nice as well. If he's blue collar, it's in the way that an oil field contractor is blue collar; it's a hard, technical job but it pays a stack of money.
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