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KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Baxate posted:

Unless you can prove age discrimination, which is possible if they’re firing the old guy who makes too much to replace him with a fresh grad working for peanuts then yeah

yeah if you are some kind of protected class you could probably work up a case

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tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


brugroffil posted:

Illinois has that as well


Might as well now that all the sports books are apps

My state has recently legalized sports betting.. HOLY gently caress the ADS.. football is no longer.. Hey do you have mild to moderate hair thinning.. Then you need to take presquiva, thicken your hair today, side effects may cause death, thinning hair, uncontrolled bowel movements, frequent urination, and cancer.

now its
HEY SON BET NOW BET NOW but with really annoying ads. BET ON ALL THE THINGS WIN ALL THE MONEYS
Text at bottom of ad: Have a problem gambling call [state] gambling problem line.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

tater_salad posted:

My state has recently legalized sports betting.. HOLY gently caress the ADS.. football is no longer.. Hey do you have mild to moderate hair thinning.. Then you need to take presquiva, thicken your hair today, side effects may cause death, thinning hair, uncontrolled bowel movements, frequent urination, and cancer.

now its
HEY SON BET NOW BET NOW but with really annoying ads. BET ON ALL THE THINGS WIN ALL THE MONEYS
Text at bottom of ad: Have a problem gambling call [state] gambling problem line.

The best part is the like three second gun “the NFL supports responsible gaming” bits sandwiched in between Draftkings adds.

I’m usually the first person to support decriminalized vices because ultimately enforcement is uneven as hell and the people who want booze/hookers/drugs/poker/whatever bad enough will end up funding organized crime and that has a TON of negative externalities. Plus makes it harder for addicts to get help.

But drat all this poo poo being on phones is going to be really bad for some people. Having to drive to the local dive casino or get your scratchers at the gas station is one thing but when it’s just constantly there, on your phone, a device that realistically never leaves your side in your waking hours?

Ooooooooof

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
There's a radio ad for a nearby casino I hear multiple times per week on my commute that has a jingle with the lyrics "Life's a lot better with [Casino]. Gotta win? Need to win? Come and win!" and then a millisecond later, the legally required "if you have problems gambling..." message comes on.

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

Cyrano4747 posted:

The best part is the like three second gun “the NFL supports responsible gaming” bits sandwiched in between Draftkings adds.

I’m usually the first person to support decriminalized vices because ultimately enforcement is uneven as hell and the people who want booze/hookers/drugs/poker/whatever bad enough will end up funding organized crime and that has a TON of negative externalities. Plus makes it harder for addicts to get help.

But drat all this poo poo being on phones is going to be really bad for some people. Having to drive to the local dive casino or get your scratchers at the gas station is one thing but when it’s just constantly there, on your phone, a device that realistically never leaves your side in your waking hours?

Ooooooooof

Draftkings literally exists for grift. Born out of a bunch of lovely people with an excess of money to burn.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Your phone is gonna get all scratched up when you use a quarter to play your scratch-off tickets on the app, though.

My man, we live in the future. You use your bitcoin to scratch off your digital scatch-offs.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

brugroffil posted:

Illinois has that as well


Might as well now that all the sports books are apps

It’s ok. The Illinois lottery limits you to depositing $1,000 per week. No worries.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Extreme "What could possibly go wrong?" vibes.

Just everything... from:

- One already married to someone outside the triad.
- 3 kids with people outside the group.
- A "joint" retirement account that person 3 contributes 15% of income to, but has no legal access to.
- Two houses that are split multiple ways.
- Trying to move out of state with children of divorced husband into a poly triad house outside of custody agreement.
- "Previous husband has many legal issues"
- Legally mandated bi-monthly STD tests
- Giving the title and mortgage on a house to different people to "give everyone a stake" in the house.
- Already planning on trying to have another kid with the woman who isn't divorced yet before this plan is worked out.
- One person is paying for 1.5 mortgages on houses they don't own.
- They rotate houses every week.
- The houses are not next door to each other.
- They haven't even bought the second house yet.
- Setting up a hotel fund that everyone pays into to take outside sex partners too.
- Having to ask "Is Bigamy a crime in Georgia?"

quote:

[Help] Guidance/Awareness on Potential Triad Poly Relationship

[Help] Need Guidance/Awareness on Potential Polyamorous Lifestyle

[Background] The relationship would consist of the following: - 3 adults - 3 current children - 1 planned child - 2 separate households but will be in the same neighborhood - Will live in the state of Georgia

Person A - Is male - Currently has 0 children - Currently makes $150K in annual salary - Has never been married - Currently owns 1 home with plans to buy 1 additional home - Will live in House 1 (primarily)

Person B - Is female - Currently has 2 children - none from Person A (both are from different fathers) - Child 1 and Child 2 belong to Person B - Currently married and about to divorce - Previous husband lives in a state +1000 miles away from Georgia - Makes $50K in annual salary - Will live in House 1

Person C - Is female - Currently has 1 child not from Person A - Child 3 belongs to Person C - Would like to have 1 child with Person A - Currently married and about to divorce - Previous husband has had many legal issues, and lives in a state +1000 miles away from Georgia - Makes $50K in annual salary - Will live in House 2

[Structure - Living] - Person A would split time between House 1 and House 2 via weekly rotation - Person A will pay mortgage of House 1 and split mortgage payment of House 2 w/ Person C - There will be no traditional/legal marriages between any adults involved

[Structure - Finances] - Persons A, B and C will have separate banking and retirement accounts - Person A, B and C will contribute 15% of salaries to retirement accounts - Person A, B and C will each contribute $50/month to stock investments accounts created for each individual child (each child will receive 1 $50 investment per month) - Persons A, B, And C will each contribute $400/month to split between “Family Accounts” (Family Emergency ($200), Family Leisure ($100), and Family Travel ($100)

[Rules - Allowed] - Persons A, B and C are free to express themselves sexually with other partners - Persons A, B and C will get tested bi-monthly for STDs

[Rules - Not Allowed] - Persons A, B and C are not allowed to create other families/children outside of this core family - Persons A, B and C are not allowed to bring outside sexual partners to the home (that could be a potential safety issue for adults and children - must go book hotel room)

[Questions] 1. What needs to be known legally? Is this type of poly relationship in danger within the court of law compared to other types of poly relationships? Are there benefits to this type over others?

Can this structure of relationship jeopardize the custody of children for the women? How can this be prevented? Are their lawyers who specialize in helping legal poly relationships that can consistently be briefed on the healthy structure of the relationship in case custody/legal battles ever occur?

To reduce these risk to outside interference from legal or people, should the title of Home 2 be in Person C’s name? Or can it stay in Person A’s name? (Would be preferred to stay in Person A’s name)

For safety reasons, should Persons A, B and C notify each other their location/what hotels they will be if/when they are with other sexual partners for safety reasons? Is this too much policing?

Without you knowing the personalities involved, would you say this structure is a positive one? Any suggestions for improvement?

Any other tips/advice/feedback is welcomed. Thank you so much for the help!

quote:

Georgia does not prohibit having several sexual relationships at once, or raising your kids with the help of another adult. By the same token, there will not be any legal recognition for this relationship - you will be as three roommates who gently caress sometimes.

That means that if one of your triad breaks "the rules," all you can really do is separate from them. If they co-own the house, that could lead to a significant legal battle unless they're willing to sell voluntarily. That joint account is also a potential risk - a good cohabitation agreement can set expectations, but if the account grows large, it may be worth negotiating towards splitting some of it back out into individual portions.

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom Vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost
Looks like both women aren't divorced yet

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:

:psyboom:

Cyrano4747 posted:

But drat all this poo poo being on phones is going to be really bad for some people. Having to drive to the local dive casino or get your scratchers at the gas station is one thing but when it’s just constantly there, on your phone, a device that realistically never leaves your side in your waking hours?

Incidentally, this mirrors my feelings on the ubiquity of internet porn and how it's so easy to fuel that particular addiction, since you don't have to drive to a casino or call up your dealer. When the poo poo is right there it's too easy to give in. Difference being that one is far more likely to dump their last dime on mobile gambling than mobile porn :smith:

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


D34THROW posted:

Incidentally, this mirrors my feelings on the ubiquity of internet porn and how it's so easy to fuel that particular addiction, since you don't have to drive to a casino or call up your dealer. When the poo poo is right there it's too easy to give in. Difference being that one is far more likely to dump their last dime on mobile gambling than mobile porn :smith:

I mean, unless you're one of these no-fap weirdos who gives themselves a complex by trying to avoid it entirely (and are thus deprive themselves of the post-nut clarity that lets the rest of us get on with our day), I don't see how those are really comparable at all.

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Extreme "What could possibly go wrong?" vibes.

Just everything... from:

- One already married to someone outside the triad.
- 3 kids with people outside the group.
- A "joint" retirement account that person 3 contributes 15% of income to, but has no legal access to.
- Two houses that are split multiple ways.
- Trying to move out of state with children of divorced husband into a poly triad house outside of custody agreement.
- "Previous husband has many legal issues"
- Legally mandated bi-monthly STD tests
- Giving the title and mortgage on a house to different people to "give everyone a stake" in the house.
- Already planning on trying to have another kid with the woman who isn't divorced yet before this plan is worked out.
- One person is paying for 1.5 mortgages on houses they don't own.
- They rotate houses every week.
- The houses are not next door to each other.
- They haven't even bought the second house yet.
- Setting up a hotel fund that everyone pays into to take outside sex partners too.
- Having to ask "Is Bigamy a crime in Georgia?"

Whatever polyamorous lawyer discovers a way to structure throuples in a way that makes sense and is satisfying to everyone involved will be recognized as the greatest legal genius in history. There will be statues of them alongside legendary lawgivers like Hammurabi, Moses, and Lycurgus.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


It's only a matter of time until someone proposes a blockchain-based solution.

Doug Sisk
Sep 11, 2001

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Extreme "What could possibly go wrong?" vibes.

Just everything... from:

- One already married to someone outside the triad.
- 3 kids with people outside the group.
- A "joint" retirement account that person 3 contributes 15% of income to, but has no legal access to.
- Two houses that are split multiple ways.
- Trying to move out of state with children of divorced husband into a poly triad house outside of custody agreement.
- "Previous husband has many legal issues"
- Legally mandated bi-monthly STD tests
- Giving the title and mortgage on a house to different people to "give everyone a stake" in the house.
- Already planning on trying to have another kid with the woman who isn't divorced yet before this plan is worked out.
- One person is paying for 1.5 mortgages on houses they don't own.
- They rotate houses every week.
- The houses are not next door to each other.
- They haven't even bought the second house yet.
- Setting up a hotel fund that everyone pays into to take outside sex partners too.
- Having to ask "Is Bigamy a crime in Georgia?"

I nearly finished your summary before realising the 'triad' wasn't the Chinese organised crime syndicate.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

William Bear posted:

Whatever polyamorous lawyer discovers a way to structure throuples in a way that makes sense and is satisfying to everyone involved will be recognized as the greatest legal genius in history. There will be statues of them alongside legendary lawgivers like Hammurabi, Moses, and Lycurgus.

Are three person trusts not allowed? That seems to be the easiest solution to get around actual polygamy. I don’t think it would cover children, but you could set up something that more or less covers everyone financially.

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer

ultrafilter posted:

It's only a matter of time until someone proposes a blockchain-based solution.

The ol’ block and chain if you know what I mean

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

ultrafilter posted:

It's only a matter of time until someone proposes a blockchain-based solution.

None Fungible Threeways.

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


Bird in a Blender posted:

Are three person trusts not allowed? That seems to be the easiest solution to get around actual polygamy. I don’t think it would cover children, but you could set up something that more or less covers everyone financially.

From a purely property-rights perspective, possibly. In terms of building social structures/practices that will work out best for everyone, though; that's where the innovation is needed. There are all kinds of unspoken social conventions that are basically just understood for couples around things like anniversaries, invitations to social events, breakups, etc. It's the kind of stuff that you only really notice when you're in a relationship that kind of stuff wasn't build to handle.

For example, I've got friends who are in a long-term triad. They're tired of their current house and want to find something new. But finding a house that is well-suited for three adults is actually kind of a pain (especially if you aren't a multi-millionaire). Way too many places, even if they have enough bedrooms, build things like the second full bathroom expecting them to be used by children or teenagers, and thus they aren't really of the size/quality that a regular adult would want for their primary bathroom.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Bird in a Blender posted:

Are three person trusts not allowed? That seems to be the easiest solution to get around actual polygamy. I don’t think it would cover children, but you could set up something that more or less covers everyone financially.

You're describing a living revokable tryst

drk
Jan 16, 2005
Bad Wife Management: Potential Polyamory

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Doug Sisk posted:

I nearly finished your summary before realising the 'triad' wasn't the Chinese organised crime syndicate.

:same:

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

Doug Sisk posted:

I nearly finished your summary before realising the 'triad' wasn't the Chinese organised crime syndicate.


You guys live more interesting lives than I do.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Residency Evil posted:

You guys live more interesting lives than I do.
Threesomes, organized crime, three cities in northwestern North Carolina, that card game from Final Fantasy 8, lotta Triads out there.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



drk posted:

Bad Wife Management: Potential Polyamory

Bad Wife Management: Rise of the Triad

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.

Midjack posted:

Bad Wife Management: Rise of the Triad

I can't really find a relevant way to use these emotes, but I must.
:godwinning:
:godwin:

Dik Hz
Feb 22, 2004

Fun with Science

William Bear posted:

Whatever polyamorous lawyer discovers a way to structure throuples in a way that makes sense and is satisfying to everyone involved will be recognized as the greatest legal genius in history. There will be statues of them alongside legendary lawgivers like Hammurabi, Moses, and Lycurgus.
The biggest hurdle to legalized polyamory isn’t the union; it’s the divorce. Imagine a custody arrangement but 3 relationships between parents to manage instead of one. Same with equitable distribution. No judge wants to touch that poo poo.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
https://slate.com/human-interest/2017/03/new-york-court-affirms-poly-parenthood-with-three-way-custody-ruling.html

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Midjack posted:

Bad Wife Management: Rise of the Triad

Just thought of an improvement:
Bigamous Wife Management: Rise of the Triad.

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo
https://twitter.com/thatbilloakley/status/1481031653585686530

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Borrowing Worthy Meat: Finance A Ham

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

ultrafilter posted:

Borrowing Worthy Meat: Finance A Ham

* Borrowing White Meat

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom Vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost
* Borrowing Whole Meat: Still better than whole life insurance

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Wasn't one of the pizza chains also doing the same thing?

Super Librarian
Jan 4, 2005

Sometimes I wonder how many people actually use deferred payment plans at Petsmart, considering that the option exists for literally every single item

a podcast for cats
Jun 22, 2005

Dogs reading from an artifact buried in the ruins of our civilization, "We were assholes- " and writing solemnly, "They were assholes."
Soiled Meat
I just saw an article about 15 minutes ago that claimed that, in a study of 3000 US adults carried out in December, the share of BNPL payments for grocery purchases was 0.2%.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

a podcast for cats posted:

I just saw an article about 15 minutes ago that claimed that, in a study of 3000 US adults carried out in December, the share of BNPL payments for grocery purchases was 0.2%.

that is honestly lower than i expected

BNPL grocery purchases are a time honored tradition; your local grocery would usually extend you a line of credit and you would settle up accounts later. this was common at least through the 1950s

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


These days you have shitloads of credit providers like Klarna who just get integrated into the store backend, if you watch daytime TV in the UK you'll see an ad for at least 1 quick credit company app every ad break. It does still make me laugh when I'm buying something cheap through Paypal and they ask if I want to use Paypal Credit for it.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

that is honestly lower than i expected

BNPL grocery purchases are a time honored tradition; your local grocery would usually extend you a line of credit and you would settle up accounts later. this was common at least through the 1950s

This bankrupted my great grandparents' store in the 30's! They let people get groceries on credit, and when they had cash they'd go to the cash-only store. They closed up shop at some point in the 30's and it just sat unused for 60 years until the CTA built a train stop there. Now the whole store interior is in a restaurant in Barrington, IL.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

njsykora posted:

These days you have shitloads of credit providers like Klarna who just get integrated into the store backend, if you watch daytime TV in the UK you'll see an ad for at least 1 quick credit company app every ad break. It does still make me laugh when I'm buying something cheap through Paypal and they ask if I want to use Paypal Credit for it.
I read this as Klanna and now I am trying to figure out Big Racist Credit.

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Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Cyrano4747 posted:

The best part is the like three second gun “the NFL supports responsible gaming” bits sandwiched in between Draftkings adds.

I’m usually the first person to support decriminalized vices because ultimately enforcement is uneven as hell and the people who want booze/hookers/drugs/poker/whatever bad enough will end up funding organized crime and that has a TON of negative externalities. Plus makes it harder for addicts to get help.

But drat all this poo poo being on phones is going to be really bad for some people. Having to drive to the local dive casino or get your scratchers at the gas station is one thing but when it’s just constantly there, on your phone, a device that realistically never leaves your side in your waking hours?

Ooooooooof

Oh yeah can’t wait until we inevitably get a ring of umpires caught adjusting strike zones or journeymen kickers shanking field goals, or just players betting on themselves in the dugouts. With extra billions sloshing around it can’t not happen.

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