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I mean the rhetoric on the US side that’s pro-war is gearing up to make sure of that https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2022/01/us-must-prepare-war-against-russia-over-ukraine/360639/ This is one of Obamas deputy assistant secretary of defenses. It seems like Germany might be the leading part of the NATO coalition to make sure cooler heads prevail - Lavrov, Russias Foreign Minister, seems to finally not be talking in ultimatums https://twitter.com/rolandoliphant/status/1484498962052796416?s=21 What this means is still TBD - more rounds of talks are going to happen, but the invasion rhetoric that the US is spreading might not be the truth - it might truly just be saber rattling as some Europeans have been saying This is good news if we’re taking a pause
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I wonder what all of the chuds feel about this because Trump is constantly sucking Putin's balls. So do they love Russia or what? Do they want Russia to go to war and win against the Ukraine?
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Preoptopus posted:As a child immigrant Russo American living in the states, i for one am dreading the amount of ethnic slurs that are about to be thrown my way by idiots. Is this a joke or do you actually experience this? I'm also a Russo-American child immigrant and my only feeling about my nationality is that I'm one of the good ones because I'm not a loving moron that loves Trump because socialism bad
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I wonder what all of the chuds feel about this because Trump is constantly sucking Putin's balls. So do they love Russia or what? Do they want Russia to go to war and win against the Ukraine? Obama was a pantywaist because he didn't do anything. Biden will be one if he doesn't do anything but he'll also be a moron for getting us into a war if he does. Propaganda!
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I wonder what all of the chuds feel about this because Trump is constantly sucking Putin's balls. So do they love Russia or what? Do they want Russia to go to war and win against the Ukraine? Yes they unironically love Russia
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biden will be the biggest fool in history if he doesn't use the full might of the US military and all NATO resources to prevent russia from invading ukraine to retrieve his son's laptop
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I wonder what all of the chuds feel about this because Trump is constantly sucking Putin's balls. So do they love Russia or what? Do they want Russia to go to war and win against the Ukraine? Tucker is blaming Ukraine for the situation so...
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I wonder what all of the chuds feel about this because Trump is constantly sucking Putin's balls. So do they love Russia or what? Do they want Russia to go to war and win against the Ukraine? It’s mostly silence from the conservatives, the ones that sent us into Iraq and Afghanistan are now democrats or at the very least got pushed out of the Trump circle. Biden’s admin is pushing hard to convince us that Russia is imminently about to invade, and Jen Psaki recently said the CIA uncovered a false flag plot in Ukraine that would give Russia a casus belli to invade Fox News is hosting anti-war guests, which make of it what you will. The US propaganda levels are hard to make sense of as Ukrainian media, outside of a few oppo leaders, seem to flip flop between imminent invasion and “Russia is just saber rattling”
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the rah rah bomb the Arabs conservatives kinda disappeared from like 2008-2010, ever since libya the main audience for war propaganda has been do-gooder liberal types getting sucked in by state department funded docs with titles like “BANA: How One Child’s Voice in Aleppo Shook the World”. Under Obama there was a big pivot to targeting liberals with pro-war media which has continued to this day. I have a Ukrainian filmmaker acquaintance who once got contacted during the late 2010s by the actual state department offering to fund a documentary about the conflict, it would have been made through their own production company but all the money would come from the U.S. government. There are also a number of guys in Hollywood like Joe Piscatella who couldn’t really make it in the industry but found a niche where they just put together propaganda films on demand. The U.S. cranks this poo poo out constantly. I work in localization so I catch a whiff of it pretty frequently
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feelix posted:Is this a joke or do you actually experience this? I'm also a Russo-American child immigrant and my only feeling about my nationality is that I'm one of the good ones because I'm not a loving moron that loves Trump because socialism bad Lmao same, my mom was freaking out and wanted to change family surname after 2008. Ain't gonna be no pogrom, babushka, although on the other hand Canada did famously put a bunch of Ukrainians and Russians in concentration camps 100 years ago
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Colonel Cancer posted:Lmao same, my mom was freaking out and wanted to change family surname after 2008. Ain't gonna be no pogrom, babushka, although on the other hand Canada did famously put a bunch of Ukrainians and Russians in concentration camps 100 years ago Дядюшка Фома
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They have been harassing Sweden on the Baltic Sea enough so that they had to send their army to the Gotland island in case they get cheeky with their navy, airborne from Kaliningrad and their "naval exercises". Also the Finnish Defense Forces said that they have also upped their Defcon for these recent event.
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The state dept put out three articles yesterday about Russian disinformation. Thought that was interesting.
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Does Russia have a meaningful Navy? I thought a crane fell on it in dry dock. Then the crane sunk.
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wonder what the space force is up to these days. maybe they could defend ukraine with some space lasers?
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ChunTheUnavoidable posted:the rah rah bomb the Arabs conservatives kinda disappeared from like 2008-2010, ever since libya the main audience for war propaganda has been do-gooder liberal types getting sucked in by state department funded docs with titles like “BANA: How One Child’s Voice in Aleppo Shook the World”. Under Obama there was a big pivot to targeting liberals with pro-war media which has continued to this day. Def agreed to your first point, second part is fascinating and I’m really not surprised. We’re extremely good at this and incentivizing creatives who are insanely under appreciated makes total sense. I’m curious if you could expand more on what you see if you’re allowed to
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feelix posted:Yes they unironically love Russia Something they and the tankies have in common. Red-Brown alliance, baby!
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I only learned yesterday that apparently saying "the Ukraine" makes you look like a Russian supporter or something. My buddy chided me on it, being slavic, himself. I had never heard that, being from a bg where hearing about the country was through the lens of media, mostly from when I was young. I worry for some artists I've commissioned and worked with before; there's a burgeoning digital art scene there, with many skilled and wonderful people. I've been lucky enough to encounter some really amazing folks. I hope they stay safe. That's my Ukraine story.
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yeah i can see that if someone said The Canada i would at the least think they were a fuckin weirdo
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My Russian step mom just passed her US citizenship test a few days ago and the ceremony is in February. I am super grateful this is able to happen, especially given the uncertainty of Russian-USA relations in the future.
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DicktheCat posted:I only learned yesterday that apparently saying "the Ukraine" makes you look like a Russian supporter or something. My buddy chided me on it, being slavic, himself.
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Sid Vicious posted:yeah i can see that if someone said The Canada i would at the least think they were a fuckin weirdo Spoken like a true The Canadian
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Prof. Crocodile posted:Spoken like a true The Canadian gently caress
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The Russia(n) Also:
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Isn’t Ukraine where all the Buttcoin is minted? The coin wars of ‘22 will be swift but brutal.
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Jonny Nox posted:Does Russia have a meaningful Navy? I thought a crane fell on it in dry dock. Yes, it can’t match the US strength especially if combined with NATO. I haven’t followed developments in submarine tech but in the case of a shooting war with NATO they would probably be used to interdict shipping and, if the war escalates enough, use cruise missiles against targets in Europe and the United States. And the subs with the nukes try to get into position to nuke stuff. It is an open question how well maintained the navy is. Most likely it is in better shape than it was a decade ago. Then again I have only read up minimally on Soviet naval strategy in the last decade. Maybe their general plans have changed.
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Xenocides posted:Yes, it can’t match the US strength especially if combined with NATO. I haven’t followed developments in submarine tech but in the case of a shooting war with NATO they would probably be used to interdict shipping and, if the war escalates enough, use cruise missiles against targets in Europe and the United States. And the subs with the nukes try to get into position to nuke stuff. It is an open question how well maintained the navy is. Most likely it is in better shape than it was a decade ago. They do have really cutting-edge anti-ship missiles now, definitely on par with or even better than ours from what I’ve read
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i will destroy any russian invasion
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Zippy the Bummer posted:i will destroy any russian invasion Hell yeah brother 
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Nuke their rear end Take their natural gas
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Bad Purchase posted:wonder what the space force is up to these days. maybe they could defend ukraine with some space lasers? Space Force's space lasers were intercepted by Space Jews so they're Jewish space lasers now.
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Nuts and Gum posted:Isn’t Ukraine where all the Buttcoin is minted? The coin wars of ‘22 will be swift but brutal. Russia is actually banning the butts like fairly soon I think. https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/russian-cbank-proposes-banning-cryptocurrencies-crypto-mining-2022-01-20/ Kazakhstan actually is where a gently caress ton of mining occurred but there was a recent (like literally 4 weeks ago) massive amount of unrest where the gov shut down the entire internet and had to call in Russia to quell an uprising. Dust is still settling there but it took a drat beating because of that https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/06/kazakhstan-bitcoin-internet-shutdown
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Sid Vicious posted:yeah i can see that if someone said The Canada i would at the least think they were a fuckin weirdo The Us
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Blinken sounds like a reindeer name and biden is no santa. Lavrov is just laughing
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Nuts and Gum posted:Isn’t Ukraine where all the Buttcoin is minted? The coin wars of ‘22 will be swift but brutal. Oh poo poo, in that case let er rip and cleanse the world of crypto for once and for all.
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dk2m posted:Def agreed to your first point, second part is fascinating and I’m really not surprised. We’re extremely good at this and incentivizing creatives who are insanely under appreciated makes total sense. I’m curious if you could expand more on what you see if you’re allowed to For sure, I’d rather not give a blow by blow of specific projects I’ve worked on, although the guy I mentioned is a good example of both the type of content and the people making it, but from the time I started in the content localization industry (early 2010s, post-Libya) you would basically have a parade of content come down the pipeline any time the US was gearing up for a new conflict or pushing for increased involvement in one. Usually you’d start seeing them show up at the same time the usual op-eds by Atlantic Council guys would appear in the newspapers. They were very slick prestige documentary features destined for a certain streaming service and the production often had some familiar faces. Looking into them, you would find they really struggled in the 2000s, slowed down or stopped working, and then all of a sudden switched to working on this type of content specifically. In Piscatella’s case the switch happened shortly after he took a speechwriting gig for Air Force officials in Washington D.C. I always figured this stuff was being bankrolled by the government, but once I had that experience where my acquaintance got an actual e-mail laying out the scheme things became a lot more clear to me. I still think the main arenas for propaganda leading up to new wars are the news media and social media, but the filmmaking side of it is really important and effective too, and it’s something I have seen consistently ChunTheUnavoidable fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jan 21, 2022 |
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Der Kyhe posted:Also the Finnish Defense Forces said that they have also upped their Defcon for these recent event. Probably a good idea. https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1483933560251850755
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Jonny Nox posted:Does Russia have a meaningful Navy? I thought a crane fell on it in dry dock. On blue waters? No. They have enough capability with smaller crafts to do meaningful combat on smaller theaters, such as Black Sea (against Ukraine) or in the Baltic Sea (against Sweden and/or Finland). Their Navy depends on the existence of air force, but in the closed quarters areas such as mentioned before, they are a capable force. And they can mine the poo poo out of the area to make it unavailable to everyone else.
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