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Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Endorph posted:

orient is a bad show but that weapon absolutely does look cool.


:confused:
This looks cool? That's some especially mall ninja horse poo poo in a medium known for mall ninja horse poo poo. Top award for weapon more dangerous to the user than the target.

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chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Kung Food posted:


:confused:
This looks cool? That's some especially mall ninja horse poo poo in a medium known for mall ninja horse poo poo. Top award for weapon more dangerous to the user than the target.

The greatest martial artists know that the true enemy is the self. Therefore, that weapon is the greatest you could ask for.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

its fine, just pretend it's a pickaxe

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Kung Food posted:


:confused:
This looks cool? That's some especially mall ninja horse poo poo in a medium known for mall ninja horse poo poo. Top award for weapon more dangerous to the user than the target.

yeah it owns. the shark blade thing you posted owns too. who gives a poo poo about realism in an anime that isnt remotely going for it.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

the pinnacle of shonen anime is two guys with fifteen belts and weapons bigger than they are going 'so we meet at last... adelbert the bloodstained blade...' 'indeed... cuthbert the eternally damned...'

Indiana_Krom
Jun 18, 2007
Net Slacker
I gave up on Orient at episode 2 because it was boring and repetitive. Like I even agree it looks awesome, the weapons look great, it has the style but no substance.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

dogsicle posted:

its fine, just pretend it's a pickaxe

I watched the first episode and it's literally a pickaxe, the character was forced to attend "miner school" for several years and he used it as an opportunity to secretly train himself in his personal martial arts technique of smacking opponents really hard with the tip of the scythe

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I watched the first episode and it's literally a pickaxe, the character was forced to attend "miner school" for several years and he used it as an opportunity to secretly train himself in his personal martial arts technique of smacking opponents really hard with the tip of the scythe

So that's what everyone who goes to the Colorado School of Mines is up to.

kater
Nov 16, 2010

That weapon is pretty dope. I wouldn’t say extremely dope but pretty dope.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Indiana_Krom posted:

I gave up on Orient at episode 2 because it was boring and repetitive. Like I even agree it looks awesome, the weapons look great, it has the style but no substance.
Are we watching the same show? It looks like the bad season of 7 deadly sins.

Indiana_Krom
Jun 18, 2007
Net Slacker

Kung Food posted:

Are we watching the same show? It looks like the bad season of 7 deadly sins.

I don't mean the animation, because yeah it wasn't great either. I just mean the weapon designs. Like I'm still kind of scratching my head trying to figure out how you can make someone fighting demons with a badass scythe so insufferably boring.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Indiana_Krom posted:

I don't mean the animation, because yeah it wasn't great either. I just mean the weapon designs. Like I'm still kind of scratching my head trying to figure out how you can make someone fighting demons with a badass scythe so insufferably boring.

I can suspend belief for silly fantasy weapons because rule of cool. I can get on board for over the top huge monster hunter weapons. I can say yeah sure for Guts' unusable dragon slayer sword, but the double scythe isn't that. It's like a focus group of 14 year old boys compared the weapons they drew in the margins of their notebooks for home room and came together and designed a weapon. It's "I studied the blade" level of cringe. It's like the author played Chrono Trigger and thought "Wow Magus and his Scythe is pretty cool, but a DOUBLE scythe would be even cooler."

And a testament to how dumb this weapon is, my suspension of disbelieve was broken harder by him using that dumb thing as a pick axe as I was by him using it as a weapon.

This is the hill where I die. The double scythe from Orient is bad. From a functional standpoint, a design standpoint, a rule of cool standpoint, by any metric its loving dumb.

BRB going to write a manga where the MC stabs himself in the butthole because he did an overhead swing with his stupid overly designed weapon.

Kung Food fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jan 22, 2022

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
my problem with it is that experience in using a pickaxe is not applicable at all to using even a regular scythe much less that thing. the shapes are somewhat similar but that's it. it'd be better if he was actually using a battle pickaxe when everyone else was using swords. as for practicality, i don't really see why it would matter in an anime about fighting monsters with swords.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Double scythes are cool, see: Hisagi. Double double scythes, to boot.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

chumbler posted:

Double scythes are cool, see: Hisagi. Double double scythes, to boot.



These are dumb weapons, but still better than the double scythe of Orient, because with these scythes you will 100% cut yourself, but you will probably not stab your own butthole. With the Orient double scythe has a guaranteed chance of happening.

Kung Food fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Jan 22, 2022

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Kung Food posted:

I can suspend belief for silly fantasy weapons because rule of cool. I can get on board for over the top huge monster hunter weapons. I can say yeah sure for Guts' unusable dragon slayer sword, but the double scythe isn't that. It's like a focus group of 14 year old boys compared the weapons they drew in the margins of their notebooks for home room and came together and designed a weapon. It's "I studied the blade" level of cringe. It's like the author played Chrono Trigger and thought "Wow Magus and his Scythe is pretty cool, but a DOUBLE scythe would be even cooler."
yeah. youre right. and all of these things own?

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

and furthermore organization 13 from kingdom hearts 2 is still rad.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Endorph posted:

and furthermore organization 13 from kingdom hearts 2 is still rad.

Not the card guy, he sucked.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Endorph posted:

yeah. youre right. and all of these things own?

If all these things own so hard, why is the show so boring?

OnimaruXLR
Sep 15, 2007
Lurklurklurklurklurk
The pickaxe breaks in the third episode anyway. Curious to see if he gets a new weapon, a replacement pickaxe, or if he's just going to carry the pole around.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012



the dinner conversation must be positively lyrical

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Kung Food posted:

If all these things own so hard, why is the show so boring?
because the show is bad

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

Kung Food posted:

Are we watching the same show? It looks like the bad season of 7 deadly sins.

I'm on your side

BUT

You are implying a GOOD 7DS season?????

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Endorph posted:

because the show is bad

Putting this out there, but the reason the show is bad is because all of the things you say own, in fact do not own. In fact they actually suck a whole lot. Further putting this out there, that mall ninja weapons like the punch shark, are in fact silly and stupid. An anime based on the punch shark would be doomed to be bad, just like an anime based on a double scythe would be doomed to be bad.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

that doesnt make sense though because ive seen good things with dumb mall ninja weapons. the aesthetics of the weapons are really minor and can even be a benefit in a story designed to carry that energy and embrace the fun side of it. orient is just kinda lifeless and dull and going through the motions. for instance, none of gurren lagann's weapons make any sense whatsoever but it fully embraces it as story driven entirely by that kind of energy.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

its not like orient would be good if the guy just had a sword.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

the weapon designs alone aren't making it a cheaply produced and middling shonen adaptation

Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014

by Games Forum
i only watch 10/10 shounen with practical weapons such as bungee gum with the properties of both rubber and gum

Tales of Woe
Dec 18, 2004

i'm watching magi instead and its pretty good so far. adaptation quality is important, as it turns out

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022

Kung Food posted:

Putting this out there, but the reason the show is bad is because all of the things you say own, in fact do not own. In fact they actually suck a whole lot. Further putting this out there, that mall ninja weapons like the punch shark, are in fact silly and stupid. An anime based on the punch shark would be doomed to be bad, just like an anime based on a double scythe would be doomed to be bad.

bro just watch the show and form your own opinions

Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014

by Games Forum
i think the basis of this convo is that they watched the double scythe guy show tbf

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


chumbler posted:

Not the card guy, he sucked.

Luxord's cool, he's just a chill rear end in a top hat

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

i liked his weird running gag rivalry with jack sparrow

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Endorph posted:

its not like orient would be good if the guy just had a sword.

This is true, but the weapon design is such a fantastic degree of poo poo that out of all the many bad things about the show, that is what stands out the most to me. Like there are good shows with dumb mall ninja weapons that irk me but I can overlook. For example the sword nunchucks in Demon Slayer are loving stupid, but hey the character is cool and the setting is cool, so whatever. Have your dumb flashy weapon that would never ever ever work irl, I don't give a poo poo. But I don't know what about the double scythe offends me so deeply, but it is a design so stupid, so teenage edgelordy it hurts my soul. There are weapons that are "This would not work irl, but the character is superhuman strong so whatever" and that works. There are weapons that are "This weapon is impractical but the user has super human skill but it works." I can't think this with the doubled scythe, it's just too dumb. It is probably the worst weapon ever designed. Scythes are already not the best weapons, but hey I can overlook that because anime. Then someone came and thought, what about a bad weapon that can hurt the user as much as it can hurt the target? Maybe I can base a whole anime around this lovely, poorly thought out weapon. Orient!

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

soul eater had a double scythe and it was cool

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

i feel like the weird butthole-face cat monsters are worse than a pretty bland double scythe

Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014

by Games Forum

Endorph posted:

soul eater had a double scythe and it was cool

i was going to post the senkags girl when this broke out but its that awkward decision of either posting her half-naked outfits or doing something cowardly like using timg

Space Flower
Sep 10, 2014

by Games Forum
and then i'd post right below, "wow... two of them!"

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
I know I am being extra, but it is like someone asked me, "design the dumbest weapon possible" and I designed a gun that shot forward and backwards and then the producers said "No. Dumber." Then I wrote the script for ORIENT!

Then there would be some goons that would say "The gun that shoots forwards and backwards is cool actually."

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Space Flower posted:

i was going to post the senkags girl when this broke out but its that awkward decision of either posting her half-naked outfits or doing something cowardly like using timg
couldnt you just post her in her uniform

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