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Yeah the only thing that would possibly explain Barr aiding any sort of real investigation would be fear / coercion and I very much doubt Barr has been careless enough to make himself vulnerable. He's helped clean up way worse poo poo in the past and never come close to being incriminated.
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Oracle posted:How close were Barr and Cheney would be my question. Dick is interested in protecting his daughter. We’ve barely heard from him since he nearly got fired for trying to start a hot war with Russia.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Not sure why spr was probed here, uglycat’s post reads as word salad to me His vignettes about his roving activist life can be confusing because he drops names or nicknames of characters without introduction as if you already know who they are, but he is our friend and we like him, so just enjoy the ride and don't worry too much if you don't get what's going on, you made it through James Joyce in junior high didn't you.
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Jan 24, 2022 16:21
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Barr is an idealist. Not sure how usurping an election does or does not work with his unitary executive theory but I could see that if there was a conflict there he could navigate his conscious to whatever end he thought justified.
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Jan 24, 2022 19:39
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Oracle posted:it seems like Dick is interested in saving the Republican Party from itself. What exactly do you think this would involve?
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Jan 24, 2022 20:15
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some plague rats posted:What exactly do you think this would involve? Knowing Dick Cheney, his definition is probably Republicans saying how much they adore him and his daughter. Maybe proving it by making her Vice President.
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Knowing Dick Cheney, his definition is probably Republicans saying how much they adore him and his daughter. Maybe proving it by making her Vice President. Yeah that would be my guess as well, but I don't see how Barr would be a part of that process so I'm assuming Oracle has a different idea to us
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I suspect that it's just that, unlike many Trump appointees, Barr is bright enough to realize that Trump throws everyone under the bus eventually and it's not worth sticking his neck out too far for him.
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Jan 24, 2022 21:19
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Barr is also probably aware that Nixon's AG went to prison.
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VitalSigns posted:His vignettes about his roving activist life can be confusing because he drops names or nicknames of characters without introduction as if you already know who they are, but he is our friend and we like him, so just enjoy the ride and don't worry too much if you don't get what's going on, you made it through James Joyce in junior high didn't you. yeah this is a fair summary fool of sound posted:I suspect that it's just that, unlike many Trump appointees, Barr is bright enough to realize that Trump throws everyone under the bus eventually and it's not worth sticking his neck out too far for him. barr is v much his own thing and other than having been appointed by trump because his reputation for fixing stuff preceded him, he's v much not a trump faction guy and he was extremely at odds with trump for the last few months before he resigned (and iirc the major divisions date at least as far back as the june DC protests in 2020) Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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Barr has been an incredibly hard to pin down fixer of enormous success for longer than most on these forums have been alive. He's not gonna turn on anybody and he's not gonna say anything that means anything. This is the guy who made Iran Contra into no big deal to the point that Dems were falling over themselves to dismiss it lol
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some plague rats posted:What on earth are you talking about here? Regarde Aduck posted:Not sure why spr was probed here, uglycat’s post reads as word salad to me Sorry about that. I didn't realize the post actually did come off as gibberish, lol.
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Koos Group posted:Sorry about that. I didn't realize the post actually did come off as gibberish, lol. This is honestly reassuring because I read that post a couple times trying to make sense of it and when I got probed I was like wait, am I the problem here
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So this thread is a really good read of the history of the groups who appeared at 1/6, the people involved, and when they begin forming: https://twitter.com/capitolhunters/status/1488998122319597570?s=20&t=2mpeBPOqKnsPkAbPcV0iFg
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/rnc-cheney-kinzinger-censure?bftwnews&utm_term=4ldqpgc#4ldqpgcquote:The Republican National Committee is set to vote Friday to censure Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, the latest condemnation of the two Republican members of Congress who’ve repeatedly spoken out against former president Donald Trump. How many of those RNC committee members signed their names to false elector documents in furtherance of a seditious conspiracy? At what point does censuring people impaneled to investigate your crimes become criminal interference? Is this what 'creating a new reality' looks like? They are just going to move on with their insurrection and by the time the mechanisms catch up with them they will be 20 more crimes ahead and have shifted reality so far askew that the people who didn't break any laws will be imprisoned.
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Murgos posted:https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/rnc-cheney-kinzinger-censure?bftwnews&utm_term=4ldqpgc#4ldqpgc When your opponents, the democrats, are too big of cowards to do loving anything with holding you responsible for any of your crimes why would you stop doing them or stop lying about them?
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https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1489670170020880390?s=20&t=Ms5GQUMzwI3NRrwJS3yNmw Take your Seth Abramson salt pills. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Feb 4, 2022 |
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Murgos posted:https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/rnc-cheney-kinzinger-censure?bftwnews&utm_term=4ldqpgc#4ldqpgc https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1489703362572558338   RNC posted:WHEREAS, The Biden Administration and Democrats in Congress have embarked on a systematic effort to replace liberty with socialism; eliminate border security in favor of lawless, open borders; create record inflation designed to steal the American dream from our children and grandchildren; neuter our national defense and a peace through strength foreign policy; replace President Trump's "Operation Warp Speed" with incompetence and illegal mandates; and destroy America's economy with the Green New Deal;
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SubG posted:“create record inflation designed to steal the American dream from our children and grandchildren” … oh.
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some plague rats posted:Yeah that would be my guess as well, but I don't see how Barr would be a part of that process so I'm assuming Oracle has a different idea to us Cheney's been around these dirty fuckers for longer than any of us have been alive (with the possible exception of Willa). If anyone has evidence on Barr from the Iran-Contra days or before, it'd be him. This is also an interesting discussion about how Cheney knows bureaucracy and Barr has either no clue or doesn't give a drat about it (or was too old and out of practice to play the game he was brought in to play well enough to avoid these issues).
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1489670170020880390?s=20&t=Ms5GQUMzwI3NRrwJS3yNmw So, he’s directly implicating Ginnie Thomas as having a key role in the insurrection. They can convict and sentence her for sedition and Clarence will be like, “that’s no reason I should step down from the bench. Or, really even recuse myself from hearing her appeals.”
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SubG posted:It's worth reading the entire censure resolution. From the copy at: Republicans sign a carefully constructed document they’ve debated in committee and then have so little shame that when called on it’s obvious nonsense they can stand there and be like, “no that’s not what what we said.” It’s just so tiring.
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CommieGIR posted:Take your Seth Abramson salt pills. What does this mean? I wouldn't trust anything he tweets, without corroboration.
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Fuschia tude posted:What does this mean? I wouldn't trust anything he tweets, without corroboration.
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SubG posted:That's what CommieGIR is implying: you don't just have to take Abramson with a grain of salt, you have to take an entire salt pill. Ah. I didn't realize it was a literal  reference.
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1489670170020880390?s=20&t=Ms5GQUMzwI3NRrwJS3yNmw Oh hell yeah, breathless bluecheck reporting on the day-to-day fumblings of a bunch of absolute nobodies, this really is Mueller 2.0
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Not strictly 1/6 related but Mazars accounting just stated that due to evidence provided by the NY AG that lenders to Trump org should not rely on their reporting for the last 10 years. That’s kind of a big deal. I think it means that every bank that used the Mazars reports of Trumps finances now needs to revisit their loans and perform an audit and request updated documents. Let’s see who calls in their loans. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/trumps-accountants-10-years-worth-of-financial-statements-no-longer-valid/3552948/
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Judge Mehta ruled today that the kkk act civil suits against Trump can proceed stating that his acts on Jan 6 were not official presidential duties and so he can not claim immunity. Obviously this will get appealed, appealed again en banc and then appealed to SCOTUS before even a trial can start so there is still a ways to go but it’s a pretty important hurdle cleared.
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Murgos posted:Judge Mehta ruled today that the kkk act civil suits against Trump can proceed stating that his acts on Jan 6 were not official presidential duties and so he can not claim immunity. That's when They go full handmaids tale and the appeal gets approved. When master trump says go they say "how far"
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:That's when They go full handmaids tale and the appeal gets approved. When master trump says go they say "how far" What?
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Well, this is quite a read: https://www.justsecurity.org/80308/united-states-v-donald-trump-model-prosecution-memo/ United States v. Donald Trump A "Model Prosecution Memo" on the Conspiracy to Pressure Vice President Pence by Barbara McQuade
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Murgos posted:Well, this is quite a read: I love Science Fiction too. Seriously, the Biden admin decided not to go after Trump on this and related crimes. And that's seriously wrong.
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VideoGameVet posted:I love Science Fiction too. Yeah, this was written by a former US DA from just publicly sourced information and represents a very credible path to an indictment. That DOJ hasn’t moved at all as far as anyone can tell seems to indicate that they aren’t going to. It’s been over a year and even the low hanging fruit, like Mueller obstruction charges, don’t get a mention. Like, if you ain’t gonna charge him then say so.
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Murgos posted:Like, if you ain’t gonna charge him then say so. That is not how any investigation works. Like, that is exactly what got Comey in trouble in 2016.
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Fuschia tude posted:That is not how any investigation works. Like, that is exactly what got Comey in trouble in 2016. Wrong. Absolutely and 100% wrong. Once an official declination decision has been made then DoJ can publish that information, appropriately redacted to protect sources and methods and personal information as needed, completely legally and at their own desire.
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Some news on where the 1/6 committee is at with regards the Trump/Eastman conspiracy to kick the electoral count to the House or back to the states: https://january6th.house.gov/news/press-releases/thompson-cheney-statement-filing-eastman-lawsuit quote:...The Select Committee is not conducting a criminal investigation. But, as the judge noted at a previous hearing, Dr. Eastman’s privilege claims raise the question whether the crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege applies in this situation. We believe evidence in our possession justifies review of these documents under this exception in camera. The facts we’ve gathered strongly suggest that Dr. Eastman’s emails may show that he helped Donald Trump advance a corrupt scheme to obstruct the counting of electoral college ballots and a conspiracy to impede the transfer of power.... Link to the actual court filing: https://january6th.house.gov/sites/...Redacted%29.pdf Also, an excellent discussion of the Topic here: https://openargs.com/oa574-1-6-committee-brief-says-trump-guilty-of-crimes/
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Didn't see this here yet, but the oath keepers have screws tightening. Apparently Stuart Rhodes was on a non-alex segment of info wars just before this announcement was made. I've heard analysts suggest this plea implies cooperation with prosecution. There is legal text saying Rhodes split up the armaments they brought, sent his phone away in another car after the insurrection, nd encouraged people to delete conversations and change their appearance to avoid detection. Sorry I don't have those links, but they were in the rwm thread I believe. https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/politics/oath-keeper-plea-deal-seditious-conspiracy/index.html ILL Machina fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Mar 7, 2022 |
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Glory to Italia!
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They're gonna be able to flip Rhodes, if they haven't already. GET ME ROGER STONE
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Enrique Tarrio and other Proud Boys indicted for conspiracy charges for Jan 06: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/leader-proud-boys-indicted-federal-court-conspiracy-and-other-offenses-related-us-capitol Interestingly there are unnamed Persons in the document that were part of the planning whose contributions make them certainly seem like they could be quite important and hold a prominent place in future indictments.
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