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Jestery posted:While are on topic of recumbents BlancoNino posted:You won't be doing any hard cornering on a recumbent, and with the chains as long as they are you can get away with a lot of flex.
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Slavvy posted:Do they usually have gears? Yep, either derailleur gearing, or some kind of IGH (Nexus, Alfine, Rohloff, Nuvinci...). I'm building mine with a 8-speed Alfine - although I might upgrade to a 11-speed Alfine later.
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mikemelbrooks posted:Yes it is a thing, but anything over walking speed you don't tend to move your handlebars more than a few degrees, You worded it better than I could with that first part, my bad
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Finally had a nice day and the new bike is out of the shed, it is very orange and very lively. Ribble CGR AL with a Shimano GRX RX400 groupset.   Excuse the first photo but if I stepped back another inch I would be annihilated by a BMW. SoylentCola fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Jan 9, 2022 |
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so here's the bike I built I'm still dialing in saddle placement and waiting for my natural color leather saddle that I ordered from selles ideale in france to get here and one day I might polish the non-silver bits to match the rest of it, but otherwise I love this thing so much and climbing hills single speed is kicking my legs' asses. I chose marathon+ tires because I hope to never have to replace a tube outdoors with a rear wheel that needs some tension to ride properly. I had a flat on brand new tires on my other bike directly outside my back gate from broken glass. It's everywhere in Baltimore. If you guys can spot anything that needs fixing let me know because this is my first bike I've put together. Bike shop did the prep on the frame, headset install and the chain fitting because the tools required for that are things I will likely not buy.
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Congrats on the new bike! The only obviously wrong thing I can see is that you need a purple water bottle cap instead of an orange one. Regarding dialing in the saddle fit: many folks find that tilting a leather Brooks slightly backward from level makes it fit better. Not much, just a degree or two, but it's different than most non-leather saddles where you want them level or a degree or two forward.
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 https://surlybikes.com/parts/tuggnut I have one of these on my fixie and it makes rear tire maintenance way less of a pain.
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bicievino posted:Congrats on the new bike! the water bottle was actually quite frozen after a couple hours riding, so I dunno what to do about that, but not the main concern. The brooks saddle is gonna go back on my '70s Motobecane nomade when I get the new saddle in BlancoNino posted:
How does it work, because it looks like you could ratchet the wheel into place by hand
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The backside of that tensioner has a notch that fits in the dropout, and that little bolt is basically hand tightened and pulls the axle away to keep things snug. It isn't a necessity but I do like not having to worry or fuss with getting the right amount of tension after maintenance.
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guy I know built up this ridiculous thing for bikepacking events I love it
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Jones Loop bar with ESI Chunky's and aero bars on a hardtail? I loving love it
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I'm thinking of doing a similar bar setup. Don't know if I'll go all the way as flared as Jones but some flare + aero is a great bikepacking setup.
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Yeah it can be really nice on a 200 mile day to get some time off your hands
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Bottom Liner posted:I'm thinking of doing a similar bar setup. Don't know if I'll go all the way as flared as Jones but some flare + aero is a great bikepacking setup. I think any flared flat bars plus SQLabs inner bar ends is a good combo as well. Not sure if it'll fit well with aero bars added though.
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The downside to those over full aeros is that you're still putting weight and pressure on your wrists/hands. I ride on my forearms on drops a lot while bikepacking (and hold my handlebar bag for stability). I have some cheap carbon aero clip ons but they take up too much space on the flats, which is why I'm thinking of converting to flared mtb bars.
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I just recently dipped my toes in the back sweep waters and put SQLabs 16deg bars on my fat bike. I like them a lot, really helps my wrists after a couple hours especially on a rigid bike. I do need to still get a slightly longer stem but I’m thinking about another one for my hard tail.
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funkymonks posted:I just recently dipped my toes in the back sweep waters and put SQLabs 16deg bars on my fat bike. I like them a lot, really helps my wrists after a couple hours especially on a rigid bike. I do need to still get a slightly longer stem but I’m thinking about another one for my hard tail. Go even further imo. I'm on 30deg Ritchey Kyotes for my MTB, and even that isn't quite the same as the 45deg of the Jones Loop. It really does use different muscles. Very noticeable in turns.
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Alright I'm convinced, ordered an alloy Tumbleweed Persuader bar, 31 deg back sweep. I'm starting to collect bars like I collect tires.
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Ok, what saddles are you guys riding for 100km+ days because on my first experience bikepacking last summer after ~50 miles my butt was aching on a rather firm specialized saddle. soft squishy stuff doesn't work for me because I go numb immediately.
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Mauser posted:Ok, what saddles are you guys riding for 100km+ days because on my first experience bikepacking last summer after ~50 miles my butt was aching on a rather firm specialized saddle. soft squishy stuff doesn't work for me because I go numb immediately.
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If your saddle fits then it's just about time on it. Doing 50 miles out of nowhere is going to hurt, but if you ride multiple times a week for a few hours, 100m feels like nothing. I'm on a Brooks Cambrium and like it, but I might try the one with the cutout next.
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Mauser posted:Ok, what saddles are you guys riding for 100km+ days because on my first experience bikepacking last summer after ~50 miles my butt was aching on a rather firm specialized saddle. soft squishy stuff doesn't work for me because I go numb immediately. I have 7 Specialized Power saddles in 143mm because of how good they are for my rear end.
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:I have 7 Specialized Power saddles in 143mm because of how good they are for my rear end. This is me with Fizik Antares Versus Evo in the 149 wider size. To get there I went through multiple saddles. Just exchanged/returned until I found the magic perch. My process was to find the shape/profile that generally worked for me (flat vs curved from nose to tail and side to side) and then moved to cutout/no cutout, and then width. For me width is the least impactful factor for comfort, but profile and cutout style were critical. Had a Selle Italia Flite (new style, not the retro one) for years and it was always "okay". Used that for the shape/profile reference, then tried it with a cutout (cutout shape was wrong), then a Prologo Dimension (shape was off and I don't care for the short nose trend cuz I like to move around) then the Fizik but in the regular width, then the wide one. For me, I knew immediately when I found the right one. Don't settle for something that's "okay". Good luck!!!
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I like the pro stealth, have 2. Also the fabric scoop.
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:I have 7 Specialized Power saddles in 143mm because of how good they are for my rear end. All my bikes have a Specialized Phenom 155mm on them, even my road bike. Once you find what works, it's hard to try anything else.
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Mauser posted:Ok, what saddles are you guys riding for 100km+ days because on my first experience bikepacking last summer after ~50 miles my butt was aching on a rather firm specialized saddle. soft squishy stuff doesn't work for me because I go numb immediately. Do you care about weight? If you don't, Brooks Cambium. I can go for 10-11 hours on the C17 before I start getting uncomfortable. Just bought a C15 but haven't switched it yet. The c17 weights like 500gr, I use it on my gravel bike so its not really a problem. Got money to spend? S-Works Power mirror. Got one for my road bike a few months ago and its incredible, easy 6-8 hours without thinking about the saddle.
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I got a Brooks B17 for my commuter based on the sheer number of recommendations it gets but just couldn't get on with it, don't think it's suitable for the riding position and the rails are very short so it's hard to get enough setback. Now have a Bontrager saddle that's a bit too solid on there. The C17 looks good though, might try it once I sell the B17.
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Brooks leather saddles are some of the single most uncomfortable things I've ever sat on, bike seat or otherwise. Maybe they're good with bolt upright seating positions or something?
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CaptainTofu posted:Brooks leather saddles are some of the single most uncomfortable things I've ever sat on, bike seat or otherwise. Maybe they're good with bolt upright seating positions or something? They take forever to break in, but I’ve never gotten close cuz they have more pressure than most right up the middle. The carved option was extremely pinchy in the same area.
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Yeah broken in or not, my experience has been a saddle that causes extreme and rapid pressure discomfort.
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Heliosicle posted:I got a Brooks B17 for my commuter based on the sheer number of recommendations it gets but just couldn't get on with it, don't think it's suitable for the riding position and the rails are very short so it's hard to get enough setback. I bought a C17 with the cutout and absolutely hated it. It’s on my beater bike that I use to ride to the store because I can only tolerate about 30 minutes of it. I also don’t understand how it’s so heavy.
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I bought a used bike years ago that had a Sell Italia Aspide Arrowhead with a cutout on it. I now own 3 of them because I love them so much. I also have one of the non-cutout versions which is pretty nice, and recently I bought a more modern one with carbon rails and body (not exacrly the same but same style). Once you find what works you have to future proof:)
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El Laucha posted:Do you care about weight? If you don't, Brooks Cambium. I can go for 10-11 hours on the C17 before I start getting uncomfortable. Just bought a C15 but haven't switched it yet. The c17 weights like 500gr, I use it on my gravel bike so its not really a problem. I really like the cambium but it will SHRED your jeans.
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I’ve been building this Stumpy over the winter from a frame I found for $63. I didn’t really have any particular idea (or need) for it, mostly using parts bin components or buying cheap stuff when it pops on an eBay saved search. Sort of an organic growth. I guess right now it would be best used for light MTB trails or gravel. There’s zero mounting points on the frame so any sort of bikepacking will have to use bags, but the fork has no shortage of mounts for a front rack with low rider pannier or something. The Sensah groupset has been fine so far on the stand but I’d want to beat on it hard locally before taking it out anywhere away from home. It essentially operates like a SRAM doubletap shifter except the entire brake lever moves, there’s no separate shift paddle. There is a lockout mechanism that is supposed to prevent the shifter from actuating when braking but if you yank on it you can bypass it. The RD is awfully close to the ground on 26” wheels so definitely a bike to have a spare hanger or two. Frame: 1996 Specialized Stumpjumper M2 Comp Fork: Surly Troll, this has the right ATC to compensate for the Judy XC fork that originally came with the bike Brifters: Sensah SRX Pro Crank: Raceface 38t RD/Cassette: Sensah SRX Pro, 11-50 F Brake: TRP Hy/Rd R Brake: Avid Shorty Ultimate Tires: Schwalbe Rapid Rob Misc: FSA headset, RaceFace seatpost, some Bontrager saddle, Oval brand handlebar, Supacaz tape and cages Hoping to cut the half mile of steerer this weekend and can dial in the fit a bit more. Hard to get into a good position with that steerer tube in the way.  
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El Laucha posted:Do you care about weight? If you don't, Brooks Cambium. I can go for 10-11 hours on the C17 before I start getting uncomfortable. Just bought a C15 but haven't switched it yet. The c17 weights like 500gr, I use it on my gravel bike so its not really a problem. Bottom Liner posted:If your saddle fits then it's just about time on it. Doing 50 miles out of nowhere is going to hurt, but if you ride multiple times a week for a few hours, 100m feels like nothing. I'm on a Brooks Cambrium and like it, but I might try the one with the cutout next. I ride about an hour or two per day, definitely less the last few weeks now that it's been really frigid temps on the east coast. The bikepacking trip was better the second day, but man finishing 50 miles the first day was hard. I actually have one of the cambium saddles, I just haven't ridden it more than a couple dozen miles total because the bike I put it on I kinda replaced. I like it though and I'm going to make my wife try it since she's been complaining about her saddle given her numbness. CaptainTofu posted:Brooks leather saddles are some of the single most uncomfortable things I've ever sat on, bike seat or otherwise. Maybe they're good with bolt upright seating positions or something? I have a brooks swift saddle that took a bit to break in, but is pretty great for my road bike riding in a more forward position and pretty comfy for under four hour rides around town. Haven't tried longer than that though. I mentioned upthread that I ordered a handmade leather saddle that I'm really looking forward to, so I'll report back on that in a few months once I get it and break it in.
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CaptainTofu posted:Brooks leather saddles are some of the single most uncomfortable things I've ever sat on, bike seat or otherwise. This is true for about 200 miles. Much like leather boots, once you break them in they feel made for you. I miss my old leather Brooks.
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In my personal experience (and saddles are all personal, not objective) it remains true indefinitely. They seem to put pressure pretty much everywhere I don't want it even after a long break in.
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I got lucky with my early tries and found that Ergon saddles work really well for me. Not too flat or too swoopy, nice pressure relief cutout, a little room to move around if need be. One of their mountain bike ones is just the road saddle with a smidge more padding and it's been great for gravel, but the road saddle shape/padding level has been good on pavement for me.
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:I’ve been building this Stumpy over the winter from a frame I found for $63. I didn’t really have any particular idea (or need) for it, mostly using parts bin components or buying cheap stuff when it pops on an eBay saved search. Sort of an organic growth. I guess right now it would be best used for light MTB trails or gravel. There’s zero mounting points on the frame so any sort of bikepacking will have to use bags, but the fork has no shortage of mounts for a front rack with low rider pannier or something. Obviously I love this; my take: 
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Bottom Liner posted:This is true for about 200 miles. Much like leather boots, once you break them in they feel made for you. I miss my old leather Brooks. I did a daily commute of 10 miles each day and it never broke in for me. Since it was only 5 miles each way it’s not like it hurt or anything, just not comfortable at all.
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