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Robo Reagan posted:a guy named william shakesman one said brevity is the soul of wit Well he's dead now and Peterson isn't, so who won that one? (Shakespeare, he didn't have to hear Peterson turbofuck the English language)
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 looks like jorp's picking an interesting hill to die on Robo Reagan posted:a guy named william shakesman one said brevity is the soul of wit someone else (i think einstein?) said "things should be made as simple as possible and not any simpler" Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Feb 14, 2022 |
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Feb 14, 2022 21:48
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I will give him all the benzos he wants if he’ll just stop being a noxious fart.
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Feb 14, 2022 22:10
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lol he wants to get cancelled and be a martyr soooo badly but nobody gives a poo poo.
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Groovelord Neato posted:https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1492716214417866757?s=20&t=edLDJCeJdISiyERfh9Volg "Bring back Hannah Montana you bloody prudes! I need to see what's over her rainbow, hey-ho!"
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Feb 14, 2022 22:22
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Olympic Mathlete posted:OK so I need to know, who the gently caress is Hanna Bananaz? And why does Jorp give a gently caress? quote:She claims to be a journalist for VNA Media (which I'm not sure exists) who's tweets have been 'covering' the truckers and the protests. She's supports the truckers but the coverage I've looked at is exceedingly benign, akin to, 'here they come' and 'there they go'. quote:She’s a Canadian Christian Karen who posts big brain poo poo like this:
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Feb 14, 2022 22:33
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Pookah posted:Exactly - everything I've seen of his writing is so ponderous, overwrought and just plain tedious. He's a dreadful writer. Plus he makes hella typos. E: I'm pretty sure Easter is more important than Good Friday....? I'm not Christian, but I think the whole happy floating savior corpse thing is a Big Deal.
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Feb 14, 2022 23:01
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Maybe he's one of those "Christmas is a Pagan holiday used to lead us astray by the vile Papists" type so it's Easter then Good Friday? It is supposed to go Easter, then Christmas, then everything else though. In the modern era number 1 and 2 get reversed a lot though in practice.
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:E: I'm pretty sure Easter is more important than Good Friday....? I'm not Christian, but I think the whole happy floating savior corpse thing is a Big Deal. Depends a lot on the country, denomination and person.
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Groovelord Neato posted:https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1492716214417866757?s=20&t=edLDJCeJdISiyERfh9Volg Does anyone else think it is actually very brave and ethical to call for punishment when none shall ever come? I believe Mr. J.B. Peterson's actions here are incredibly touching and beautiful, and not at all kangaroo posturing to gain cool guy points from followers on a public platform.
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Feb 15, 2022 00:34
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Is it just me or has Peterson been a lot more angry and shrill recently?
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ryde posted:Is it just me or has Peterson been a lot more angry and shrill recently? benzo withdrawal is a hell of a ride.
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he got a sniff of that old glory with rogan and now he's back on the wagon
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PITY BONER posted:Does anyone else think it is actually very brave and ethical to call for punishment when none shall ever come? I believe Mr. J.B. Peterson's actions here are incredibly touching and beautiful, and not at all kangaroo posturing to gain cool guy points from followers on a public platform. He's acting in bad faith. He doesn't really care about gender or Greta or pomo Marxism or vaccines or any of that bloody crap. He's just trying to get people as riled up as possible to spread the greatest amount of CHWAOS in the shortest amount of time. He's even more evil than you thought. What's his Twitter avatar? It looks like the kind of artwork he might call degenerate.
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drat, I clicked this thread because I misread, and I thought you all were talking about the new Jordan Peele movie
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No but Jordan Peele will be including a scene with grandma pube paint brushes in his new film, saying "I read it in this weird rear end book and knew I had to put it in film to really capture it's true horror".
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censorious basterds
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Malcolm Excellent posted:I'm going to say something bold:
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Yesterday as a palate cleanser, I rewatched some Richard Feynman clips just to remember how somebody who knows a fuckton about what they're talking about can actually talk about it in a way that thorough but still makes sense. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1lL-hXO27Q Not once does it feel like he is trying to play tricks with your thought process, which is the default feeling when listening to Jorp.
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ryde posted:It's frustrating that wrapping simple ideas in ponderous language makes people think you are smart. Marxism has been the punching bag in Western society for 70 ish years because it's all but and occasionally outright illegal to defend it and occasionally hazardous to your health and freedom, especially if poor or nonwhite. They're used to saying literally anything they want about it and getting seal claps. There's a reason Jorps was taken completely off guard by Zizek actually being allowed to argue with him.
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What’s baffling is that Jorp seems to understand the basic objection to his dumb argument that postmodernism is marxism, that postmodernism is critical of the transcendental claim of a dialectic to truth, but he rejects that objection because postmodernism and marxism are both critical of things he likes, like capitalism and patriarchy. He can repeat the criticism in his own words, but it’s like it washes off of him like rain off a duck. The only time he seemed to have any awareness at all was when Zizek insisted that he name a single postmodern marxist publishing today and he couldn’t do it because it had never occurred to him to investigate the claim he was making.
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Dongsturm posted:
the corrollary to this is that "look, bad things might happen, and you might want to change it, but those changes might be bad, so i'm not saying don't do it, but..."
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:Plus he makes hella typos. He's a miserable man, so it makes sense that he'd latch on to the day which is all about pain and humiliation and suffering, rather than the one which is about joy and restoration and so on.
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I know someone pointed out that every single criticism Jorp presented in that "debate" had already been refuted by Marx himself; I think in an appendix to Das Kapital pretty much labeled "here is how the capitalists will respond to this book, which they will not read or even pretend to understand." Marx had Jorp's number before Jorp was even born.Nice Tuckpointing! posted:Richard Feynman Man I was just thinking about this clip too. This is how a person who is both smarter than you and able to communicate sounds.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:
If you ever want to lose complete hope in the intelligence of humanity, read the video's comments section. They are literally calling Feynman a fraud because he didn't simply answer how magnets work. Some people are just looking for gurus to hand down received opinions. See: Jordan Peterson.
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Can someone here who's not Jorp-like (so, any of you) explain what Post-modernism is? I gotta admit, it sounds like a made up term, design to make the speaker sound smart.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Can someone here who's not Jorp-like (so, any of you) explain what Post-modernism is? I’ve seen enough posters here use the term to know it means something, but I’m with you.
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I have never, ever met someone capable of explaining post-modernism while adhering to the golden rule of "If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself". I'm convinced it's nothing more than an excuse to show off how good you are at using a thesaurus.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Can someone here who's not Jorp-like (so, any of you) explain what Post-modernism is? In the 50's intellectuals started to question Modernism, IE materialism/enlightenment philosophy. Basically, questioning all facts, meanings, and epistemological assumptions. For some this meant breaking down assumptions about social hierarchy and things of that nature. For others it meant rejecting things like dialectical materialism or rationalism. It's honestly a pretty broad spectrum of movements. It makes sense that Jorp would be opposed to it since he loves rigid hierarchies and rigid "logic", but at the same time it has nothing to do with Marxism which is itself a materialist philosophy. punishedkissinger fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Feb 15, 2022 |
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Can someone here who's not Jorp-like (so, any of you) explain what Post-modernism is? It's a bunch of wank, just like 90% of the rest of philosophy OP. Immanuel Kant? More like Immanuel oval office, amirite? 
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Somebody 30 pages back spent 10,000 words talking about it and managed to say nothing.
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Their whining about postmodernism is so funny because all their positions are wrong and have no factual basis and generally live in a fantasy world. Peterson got rich because he lied about a law and his daughter and him push a diet that's physically impossible.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Can someone here who's not Jorp-like (so, any of you) explain what Post-modernism is? This video about a PT Cruiser has a good aside about what post-modernism is and how it is different from what came before it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoxqtnI4I4c&t=560s Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Feb 15, 2022 |
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My (complete amateur, untutored) understanding of postmodernism is that it boils down to, "But how do we know that?" So it's hard to pin down because that covers everything from stoner "revelations" to questioning authority to the idea that there can be multiple "truths" and beyond. It's probably really hard for someone who actually knows what the hell they're talking about to explain to the uneducated masses because it's like being asked to explain how physics works- it's broad, covers a lot of varying things, and most of them require a foundation of knowledge that most people don't have because why would they? As pointed out, none of this matters to the use by people like Jorp, who use it in the same way they use "Communism" and "Socialism," as the name of a shapeshifting devil here to eat your babies and destroy all that is good and happy out of pure sadism.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Can someone here who's not Jorp-like (so, any of you) explain what Post-modernism is? there's very little utility in understanding what postmodernism "is" and you'll get a lot more traction out of looking at the individual points that are made underneath that umbrella. it's sort of intentionally hard to define since the major figures were weirdos afaik if you want a good discussion of postmodernism, stanford encyclopedia of philosophy is pretty much always good for philosophical concepts and areas. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/
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There's actual post-modernism, but the right uses "post-modernism" as just a synonym for cultural marxism, which is a slightly more modern term for cultural bolshevism. They're all just boogeyman dogwhistles for the jews are trying to tear down "our" society. It's a literal hitler talking point he rambled on at great length in his little book mein kampf
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Car guy explains in the video it is about how we acquire and measure value. Just sayin.
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thunderspanks posted:I have never, ever met someone capable of explaining post-modernism while adhering to the golden rule of "If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself". I'm convinced it's nothing more than an excuse to show off how good you are at using a thesaurus. Some of that is due to it being a response to modernism, which means it helps to understand that. Some is due to it having related but distinct uses in a wide range of fields (and even within a field like philosophy it's not a narrow term). Some of it is because it's complex. And yeah, some is because some post-modernists end to obscurantism
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thunderspanks posted:I have never, ever met someone capable of explaining post-modernism while adhering to the golden rule of "If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself". I'm convinced it's nothing more than an excuse to show off how good you are at using a thesaurus. whose golden rule is it that knowledge ends at the elementary school level and everything beyond that is made up to impress guys who think that? this seems a lot more interesting to unpack than whatever goons think "postmodern" means A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Feb 15, 2022 |
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