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Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Bifauxnen posted:

No why do you assume the docs all have to claim

Seems a bad move, for sure.

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CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Bifauxnen posted:

No why do you assume the docs all have to claim

...I thought your plan was that the docs all coordinate in the thread for night vidges. Did I read that wrong?

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

CirclMastr posted:

Because the town has no NK outside of double-doc vidges, which a scum doc can't prevent by doc'ing the targeted scum. Which means a scum doc has no value outside of claiming to be town doc. If they don't do that, then scum team is just two vanilla goons and a roleblocker unless and until only one town doc is left alive, at which point scum doc just fires their power wildly, hoping to align with town doc on a town target for an extra NK.

:thunk:

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Well gently caress me I did read it wrong.

I'm an idiot, ignore me.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Opopanax posted:

##vote sandwolf bad vibes

Hmmm

##vote opop

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Tbf even with docs not claiming at all, you got me thinking that calling shots might not be great.

The main takeaway I'm hoping for is, at least while all the docs are in play, people should prolly try and target someone they want to see dead instead of someone they want to protect

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Everyone claim a role you *dont* have

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Sandwolf posted:

Everyone claim a role you *dont* have
Player.

flerp
Feb 25, 2014

Sandwolf posted:

Everyone claim a role you *dont* have

unstoppable unkillable serial killer

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


If for some reason we pick a target for the doctors other than the second place vote leader, we just do it the old fashioned way and go "if I were a doc I would protect x tonight" it's not complicated

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
oh dont whoops misread

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Circl are you claiming to know how many docs there are or is that hypothetical? Because uuuuhhhhhhh

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
the sand guys feel off to me but mr. wolf feels the most off to me

bif feels alright to me

maer is acting awkward but i cant tell if its just general awkwardness or scum put in an uncomfortable spot

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Opopanax posted:

Circl are you claiming to know how many docs there are or is that hypothetical? Because uuuuhhhhhhh

Oh its in the wiki

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

Opopanax posted:

Circl are you claiming to know how many docs there are or is that hypothetical? Because uuuuhhhhhhh

lol

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

CirclMastr posted:

Well gently caress me I did read it wrong.

I'm an idiot, ignore me.

lol

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

flerp posted:



maer is acting awkward but i cant tell if its just general awkwardness or scum put in an uncomfortable spot

this is where im at but im more inclined to believe it's scum on the back foot

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Idle Amalgam posted:

Hmmm

##vote opop

You going to elaborate or anything?

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007



Idle Amalgam posted:

Hmmm

##vote opop

you are as inscrutable as you are verbose

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

Mr. Humalong posted:

you are as inscrutable as you are verbose

wait i mixed those up


what the hell are you trying to say

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Bifauxnen posted:

You characterised my plan as picking someone at random. That's how.

I just appreciate that you took one word from my original post to latch onto and then claim that I'm the one spinning things. I haven't seen that from you before (that I can recall). I didn't/don't like your suggestion double kills and lurkers, they don't usually provide much info and are often town. Sorry for my choice of word, but you came on a little strong for something small.

I haven't snarked at you in awhile, it feels good...I also know you don't have any vigs to wave in my face :cheeky:

My issue with all of this is how you eventually come around to what I was actually trying to say:

Bifauxnen posted:

Tbf even with docs not claiming at all, you got me thinking that calling shots might not be great.

There's a greater benefit for scum if doc targets are discussed beforehand, or the cons outweigh any advantage gained for town. That was the point of my original post, the "handwringing" one.


Idle Amalgam posted:

I dont disagree that a lurker is a valid flip at this point, even though that might technically include me.

What is informed about d1 thus far?

It was more of a discussion about possible double kills, not the vote.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Sandwolf posted:

Everyone claim a role you *dont* have

Cop ninja tracker.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Mr. Humalong posted:

this is where im at but im more inclined to believe it's scum on the back foot

Awkwardness is my town tell, and I've never been on my back foot as scum or town (I just fall flat on my face)

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

I have to be up in...3 hours, but I'll try to look over posts and give some other reads tomorrow.

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!

Maerlyn posted:

Cop ninja tracker.

I counterclaim I'm also not a cop ninja tracker

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
Grandi how would you feel if I told you my joke vote on you was now a real one

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!

Maerlyn posted:

Bif what's different from my response and shwinn's?



Oh sorry my mistake, your pro-town strategy is to pick out a lurker (a less informed flip if killed by double docs)? How does that benefit town?

this feels maybe bad faith mainly the "less informed flip part" if an intentional doc kill is coordinated by majority expressed interest that would still be able to be analyzed, just take a bit more work than looking out for the vote command

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 1

Maerlyn (3): Bifauxnen, Sandicap, Mr. Humalong
Sandicap (2): Nep-Nep, Sandwolf, Sandwolf, Sandwolf
Bifauxnen (1): Sandicap, Sandicap, shwinnebego
Opopanax (1): Idle Amalgam
Sandwolf (1): Opopanax
b-minus1 (1): flerp, flerp, flerp
Mr. Humalong (0): shwinnebego, shwinnebego
t a s t e (0): shwinnebego, shwinnebego

Not Voting (4): b-minus1, CirclMastr, Maerlyn, t a s t e

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is March 09th, 2022 at 5:30 p.m. PST -- that's in about 15 hours, 2 minutes.

Friendly reminder, the setup can be found here.

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002

So far my scummiest reads are Humalong and bif which is funny cuz they were both scum in my last and only game.

I’m admittedly distracted tho

Also did I mention that im the doctor

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Nep-Nep posted:

Grandi how would you feel if I told you my joke vote on you was now a real one

I would feel like this was an awkward way of bringing it up, but you do you.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Did I miss where this is an open setup

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Nep-Nep posted:

this feels maybe bad faith mainly the "less informed flip part" if an intentional doc kill is coordinated by majority expressed interest that would still be able to be analyzed, just take a bit more work than looking out for the vote command

That's a point I hadn't considered (gaining information based on who argued for a person to be an intentional doc kill) but typically no one has to really defend their views on why a lurker was voted/needed to be doc killed in this particular case.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

t a s t e posted:

Did I miss where this is an open setup

girl dick energy posted:


Welcome to Wordle Mafia, an Open Setup, flavor-light game for 13 players.

Also at the bottom of votefinder posts is a link

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Nice

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

Maerlyn posted:

Awkwardness is my town tell, and I've never been on my back foot as scum or town (I just fall flat on my face)

Bwuhhuhhuhuh

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

shwinnebego posted:

Also did I mention that im the doctor

Why did you feel the need to reveal this?

Also there's not just one, there's 4 (presumably)

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

t a s t e posted:

Did I miss where this is an open setup

lol

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Opopanax posted:

You going to elaborate or anything?

I honestly don't have a developed opinion. The vote just seemed awkward to me. I haven't been following this too closely given that it's day 1. I personally haven't felt that any of the pushes are good.

Nep's this is a serious vote on grandi is probably the most awkward thing I've seen in passing, but actually haven't followed up on that. I'll give it a look here in a few.

Idle Amalgam
Mar 7, 2008

said I'm never lackin'
always pistol packin'
with them automatics
we gon' send 'em to Heaven

Nep-Nep posted:

Grandi how would you feel if I told you my joke vote on you was now a real one

in hindsight, maybe Nep is just being nep.

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shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002

Maerlyn posted:

Why did you feel the need to reveal this?

Also there's not just one, there's 4 (presumably)

Cuz that’s why it’s a silly/fairly meaningless thing to claim, and also to get you to respond like this. I’ve changed my mind about you based on this response! ##vote maerlyn

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